Bob Novak Dead

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RIP.

The Worst Chef in America!! (u s steel), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 18:51 (fourteen years ago) link

i heard he was secretly nice to a kitten once.

scott seward, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 18:52 (fourteen years ago) link

then he ate it.

scott seward, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 18:52 (fourteen years ago) link

My Kim Dae-jung RIP thread died a quick death, but this thread has all kinds of life.

Super Cub, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 19:06 (fourteen years ago) link

fuck this guy

geir ham, go (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 19:18 (fourteen years ago) link

If there was a decent lefty tabloid we could fabricate some shit about Novak recanting his whole politics on his deathbed.

discovery witch has "provide you are reciptives" (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 19:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Robert Novak was a cockfarmer.

kate78, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 19:21 (fourteen years ago) link

somewhere, tucker carlson's bowtie is weeping.

there is no there there (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 19:24 (fourteen years ago) link

why does everyone hate this dude i never watched crossfire or read his shit

a narwhal done gored my sister nell (cankles), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 07:33 (fourteen years ago) link

i don't even think his obits are gonna get one of those "i disagreed with him, but i always respected him" type deals. guy was a straight up uncivil asshole.

amateurist, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 07:49 (fourteen years ago) link

> why does everyone hate this dude i never watched crossfire or read his shit

Do you remember when he outed a CIA agent over a grudge with her husband?

The Love Song of J Alfred Pluot (Oilyrags), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 13:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Well, the story's more complicated.

post-contrarian meta-challop 2009 (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 13:09 (fourteen years ago) link

burn, fucker.

Come OOOOOOOOOOOOOOON rule of three!

huh? like anyone remembered who Kim Dae-jung was?

Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 13:12 (fourteen years ago) link

Do you remember when he outed a CIA agent over a grudge with her husband?

This doesn't even chart, btw. I'd love to out all CIA agents.

Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 13:13 (fourteen years ago) link

i don't even think his obits are gonna get one of those "i disagreed with him, but i always respected him" type deals. guy was a straight up uncivil asshole.

apparently he was a real sweetheart in real life LOL

david broder: The self-mocking parody of himself that Bob created as the Prince, a grumpy right-winger, was sometimes taken more seriously by his audience than he intended. Bob was pugnacious, when challenged, but his instinct was to help his friends whenever they needed it.

new york times: Al Hunt, the Washington executive editor of Bloomberg News, said it was difficult to pigeonhole Mr. Novak.

“Bob was known for his very tough and hard-line views, but he was also a great reporter who liked a good story even more than his ideology,” said Mr. Hunt, who had worked for The Wall Street Journal for 39 years before joining Bloomberg in 2005. “He was the ‘reverse’ Washington. If you were riding high, Novak loved to kick you. And if you were down, he’d be there for you.”

After largely ignoring religion and dabbling in Unitarianism, Mr. Novak, in 1998, at age 67, converted to Roman Catholicism. In a ceremony, Msgr. Peter Vaghi proclaimed that the “prince of darkness” had been transformed into a “child of light.”

some idiot at the nro corner: With Bob Novak, what you saw was what you got. And it was impossible — if you had any appreciation of humanity — not to love him.

We on his staff would hear him slam down the phone after a raucous disagreement with someone. Then his door would swing open, and he would emerge with an empty coffee cup, looking for a lightning-fast refill of the thick black sludge that jelled in a rusty pot on a credenza all day. “And why don’t I need any sugar in my coffee?” he’d ask us.

“Because you’re already sweet,” we’d sing back.

“That’s right,” he’d nod, and retreat to his computer.

And sweet he indeed was.

m coleman, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 13:29 (fourteen years ago) link

wait, he was gay?

nate dogg is a feeling (HI DERE), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 13:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Do you remember when he outed a CIA agent over a grudge with her husband?

This doesn't even chart, btw

Morbz OTM

go Nick go! Scrub that paint! Scrub it!! Yeah!! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 15:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Msgr. Peter Vaghi proclaimed that the “prince of darkness” had been transformed into a “child of light.”

goole, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 15:56 (fourteen years ago) link

“Because you’re already sweet,” we’d sing back.

goole, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 15:56 (fourteen years ago) link

“Because you’re already sweet,” we’d sing back.

The image I now have of that office is, if possible, more sinister than ever.

Le présent se dégrade, d'abord en histoire, puis en (Michael White), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 15:59 (fourteen years ago) link

(to be fair the other guys on the show - barring Zappa - are even more horrible)

go Nick go! Scrub that paint! Scrub it!! Yeah!! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 16:45 (fourteen years ago) link

Amnesty, Abortion and Acid

On April 25, 1972, George McGovern won the Massachusetts primary and Novak phoned Democratic politicians around the country, who agreed with his assessment that blue-collar workers voting for McGovern did not understand what he really stood for.[30] On April 27, 1972 Novak reported in a column that an unnamed Democratic senator had talked to him about McGovern.[31] "The people don’t know McGovern is for amnesty, abortion and legalization of pot," the Senator said.[31] "Once middle America – Catholic middle America, in particular – finds this out, he’s dead."[31] The label stuck and McGovern became known as the candidate of "amnesty, abortion and acid."[30][32]

Novak was accused of manufacturing the quote.[31] Novak has claimed that, to rebut this criticism, he took the senator to lunch after the campaign and had asked whether he could identify him as the source,[31] but the senator said he would not allow his identity to be revealed.[31] "Oh, he had to run for re-election", said Novak.[30] "The McGovernites would kill him if they knew he had said that," Novak added.[30]

On July 15, 2007, Novak disclosed on Meet the Press that the unnamed senator was Thomas Eagleton.[30] Political analyst Bob Shrum says that Eagleton would never have been selected as McGovern's running mate if it had been known at the time that Eagleton was the source of the quote.[30] Shrum said:
“ Boy, do I wish he would have let you publish his name. Then he never would have been picked as vice president. Because the two things, the two things that happened to George McGovern – two of the things that happened to him – were the label you put on him, number one, and number two, the Eagleton disaster. We had a messy convention, but he could have, I think in the end, carried eight or 10 states, remained politically viable. And Eagleton was one of the great train wrecks of all time.[30] ”

Eagleton died March 4, 2007, "relieving me of the need to conceal his identity," Novak wrote.[31] Some of Eagleton’s former aides were reportedly angry that Eagleton's name was attached to a quote that made him appear duplicitous.[31] Asked about the story, Novak acknowledged that disclosing Eagleton’s identity was "a judgment on my part."[31] If there’s any disagreement, Eagleton could settle it with him in heaven "or wherever we end up," Novak added.[31]

go Nick go! Scrub that paint! Scrub it!! Yeah!! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 16:49 (fourteen years ago) link

Msgr. Peter Vaghi proclaimed that the “prince of darkness” had been transformed into a “child of light.”

May the Monsignor soon join him in the light.

M.V., Wednesday, 19 August 2009 19:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Do you remember when he outed a CIA agent over a grudge with her husband?

This doesn't even chart, btw

Morbz OTM

― go Nick go! Scrub that paint! Scrub it!! Yeah!! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, August 19, 2009 11:42 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^idiotic

Bill Magill, Thursday, 20 August 2009 19:07 (fourteen years ago) link

I think the point about the Plame outing is that Novak had no shred of moral integrity, even by DC standards.

Aimless, Thursday, 20 August 2009 19:15 (fourteen years ago) link

apparently he was a real sweetheart in real life LOL

That's why he never got banned.

god bless this -ation (Abbott), Thursday, 20 August 2009 19:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Michael Kinsley: "Beneath the asshole is a very decent guy, and beneath the very decent guy is an asshole."

Hoot Smalley, Thursday, 20 August 2009 20:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Bill all I meant was the Plame thing was just one in a long litany of asshole moves

go Nick go! Scrub that paint! Scrub it!! Yeah!! (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 August 2009 20:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Whoops, sorry SMC. Bad call by me.

Bill Magill, Thursday, 20 August 2009 20:30 (fourteen years ago) link

and all I meant was fuck the CIA.

did Don Hewitt not get his own thread? good.

Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 20 August 2009 22:58 (fourteen years ago) link

whatever you think of the cia, outing its agents would be a complete and utter disaster. im no fan at all of it, but the point I was calling idiotic was the outing of the agents.

Bill Magill, Friday, 21 August 2009 13:17 (fourteen years ago) link

that logic reminds me of "no matter what you think of the Democrats' cowardice, not voting for them would be a complete and utter disaster..."

Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Friday, 21 August 2009 13:25 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh, if we outed all the CIA agents, and its foreign intelligence assets around the world were swiftly imprisoned and/or executed in their native countries, you'd be linking to a Dennis Perrin column berating us all for enabling The Butcher Obama and for the blood on our hands and our insufficient outrage just about as fast as your little fingers could type, so fuck right the hell off.

Id rather dig ditches than pull another dudes string (Pancakes Hackman), Friday, 21 August 2009 13:37 (fourteen years ago) link

that logic reminds me of "no matter what you think of the Democrats' cowardice, not voting for them would be a complete and utter disaster..."

― Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Friday, August 21, 2009 9:25 AM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Sure, whatever you say.

Bill Magill, Friday, 21 August 2009 14:01 (fourteen years ago) link


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