De La Soul - Classic or Dud?

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i dunno this kind of hardcore selectivism with rap is whats always bugged me about ilm rock critic dudes... like if youre fucking with 99.999% non-hiphop and only love 11 rap LPs i guess you can afford to treat shit like stakes is high as some mediocrity thats beneath your sorry ass but that shit is classic to me

and what, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 20:45 (sixteen years ago) link

(crocker!)

carne asada, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 20:46 (sixteen years ago) link

I saw them on Landsdowne St when they toured for Stakes Is High. That show was FANTASTIC.

It is stupid and criminal that I don't have all of their albums.

HI DERE, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 20:47 (sixteen years ago) link

(I've got 3 Feet..., Dead, Stakes and the first AOI disc)

HI DERE, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 20:48 (sixteen years ago) link

(My brother has Buhloone and I always assumed I'd tape it off him someday)

HI DERE, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 20:48 (sixteen years ago) link

(crocker)

cutty, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 20:49 (sixteen years ago) link

http://img.youtube.com/vi/kHmvkRoEowc/2.jpg
(crocker)

and what, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 20:51 (sixteen years ago) link

LEAVE GABBNEB ALONE

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 16 April 2008 20:54 (sixteen years ago) link

only love 11 rap LPs i guess you can afford to treat shit like stakes is high as some mediocrity thats beneath your sorry ass but that shit is classic to me

yeah, sorry, there's a space between only loving 11 rap lp's and being a completist rap geek

gabbneb, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 20:54 (sixteen years ago) link

thread taking a turn for the suck

Euler, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 20:55 (sixteen years ago) link

i've always repped for Stakes. the people that push so hard for 3 feet are the same people that think the best hip hop group/production was Public Enemy (ie white dudes who were in college or highschool when they came out)

jaxon, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 20:55 (sixteen years ago) link

but yeah cutty otm i haven't even heard the thing

gabbneb, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 20:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Stakes is fantastic.

HI DERE, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 20:58 (sixteen years ago) link

skits suck, that's why later albums are better listens start to finish.

Oilyrags, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 21:10 (sixteen years ago) link

CHALLENGING!

Oilyrags, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 21:10 (sixteen years ago) link

I saw them on Landsdowne St when they toured for Stakes Is High. That show was FANTASTIC.

-- HI DERE, Wednesday, April 16, 2008 4:47 PM (41 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

i was there!

stakes is good but its got this really kind of unsatisfying stilted calculating feel - its when they started sounding like uh oh maybe we shouldve gone to college instead of fucking w/this shit

jhøshea, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 21:39 (sixteen years ago) link

also no prince paul :(

jhøshea, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 21:43 (sixteen years ago) link

nah for me stakes is when they actually start to feel like real people i know instead of just goofy improv comedy dudes making weird rap

and what, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 21:45 (sixteen years ago) link

not to diminish how dope the first 3 de la records are but for real stakes is raw

and what, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 21:45 (sixteen years ago) link

yah and that was sort of the whole idea of it - to bring it down to a human level - but a lot of their brilliance came w/being just out there - regardless of weather or not they were comfortable w/that anymore

jhøshea, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 21:47 (sixteen years ago) link

one thing that sure suks abt it is common

jhøshea, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 21:48 (sixteen years ago) link

btw ur completely fucking insane to think beats rhymes life should be even mentioned in the same breath as buhloon

jhøshea, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 21:49 (sixteen years ago) link

nah for me stakes is when they actually start to feel like real people i know instead of just goofy improv comedy dudes making weird rap

dude, "Bitties in the BK Lounge"!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 21:50 (sixteen years ago) link

"Why do people think just because we speak peace
We can't blow no joints?"

carne asada, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 21:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Common's verse on stakes is fine!!!
Whip ANYBODY ass at NBA Live

deej, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 21:51 (sixteen years ago) link

com on tha bizness is tha bizness fuk u if u disagree

and what, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 21:52 (sixteen years ago) link

someone should go back in time to insure theres never any such thing as common

jhøshea, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 21:52 (sixteen years ago) link

for everybody who isnt spitting tired-ass recieved CHALLENGING OPINIONS about com sense heres the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyqUlpHs7YE&feature=related

and what, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 21:53 (sixteen years ago) link

thats not a video

jhøshea, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 21:54 (sixteen years ago) link

no he's a hippie and likes poetry slams and therefore isn't hard enough for internet thugs

Granny Dainger, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 21:58 (sixteen years ago) link

he's middlebrow

gabbneb, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 21:59 (sixteen years ago) link

he wears stupid hats

jhøshea, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 22:00 (sixteen years ago) link

ILM: we've solved rap music.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 22:00 (sixteen years ago) link

he raps abt his tedious ideas like hes explaining something REAL important to you

jhøshea, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 22:01 (sixteen years ago) link

also, stakes is high = jay dee

jaxon, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 22:28 (sixteen years ago) link

com on tha bizness is tha bizness fuk u if u disagree

-- and what, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 21:52 (26 minutes ago) Link

^^^

The Reverend, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 22:30 (sixteen years ago) link

I saw De La & Common perform "Tha Bizness" together a few years back. Dope.

The Reverend, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 22:32 (sixteen years ago) link

you guys were 13 when Tha Bizness came out, I was 13 when Me, Myself and I came out

gabbneb, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 22:37 (sixteen years ago) link

oh no fuk u guys so there

jhøshea, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 22:44 (sixteen years ago) link

I never thought I'd see the day BR&L gets praised like this.

jhøshea on a pile of money about Stakes, but can't back this revisionist idea of Common as a devil because of his latter day Badu mindstate/pants.

Resurrection for fucking all time.

PappaWheelie V, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 22:45 (sixteen years ago) link

I dunno, Stakes was where I got off the De La bus. Sold it back years ago haven't heard it since, maybe I'd like it now. At the time I was very disappointed by the lack of Prince Paul. imho the best of theirs is probably is Dead or BMS for me, too bad the vinyl copy I have of is Dead is the WORST FUCKING RECORD PRESSING I HAVE EVER HEARD IN MY LIFE. They songs are actually chopped short!

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 22:49 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

its rude to point

deej, Sunday, 25 May 2008 21:06 (fifteen years ago) link

is that Ann Coulter?

Euler, Sunday, 25 May 2008 21:07 (fifteen years ago) link

four months pass...

Exclusive: De La Soul's 2009 project
http://hamptonroads.com/2008/10/exclusive-de-la-souls-2009-project

"We are working on a revision of "3 Feet High and Rising," celebrating 20 years of that."

djmartian, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 14:09 (fifteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

It's been a pretty good decade for these guys!

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 17:29 (fourteen years ago) link

The Art Official Inteligence albums are good - Mosaic Thump is the better one (nice trick making the skits a showcase for dope freestyles), but Bionix at least has two great tracks, sampling Gainsbourg and Carl Tjader. The Grind Date is way more quality, tho - it's about as fun and exciting as a conscious rap release could get this decade. A lot of really cool beats, great guest spots (Ghostface, Flava Flav)...them doing "Much More" on Dave Chapelle is like one of my all-time fave popcult moments. Even the cover booklet is great (it has this calendar-style gimmick.) They've become pretty good producers, too, and this Supa Dave West guy they've got doing most of the beats on recent albums is a talent.

It's funny, I'm a big fan but I hardly ever listen to what they're rhyming about tbh.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link

I've only heard 3 and 2, but 3 > 2, so I'm tempted to try 4 next rather than 1.

o. nate, Friday, 7 August 2009 16:36 (fourteen years ago) link

The Grind Date is one of my favorite albums o fthe decade.

Anatomy of a Morbius (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 August 2009 16:41 (fourteen years ago) link

funny ass thread

butthurt (deej), Friday, 7 August 2009 17:59 (fourteen years ago) link


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