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Heaven's End >>> A Gilded Eternity. Fade Out is probably better than both (maybe not the former though, I should listen again) and the singles collection thing I have is better than all of them, methinks.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 20:41 (eighteen years ago) link

mebbe it's just cuz i have he on shittily-mastered cd, but it sounds like a bunch of formless, albeit loud, sub-shoegaze psychedelic noise compared to the brutalist pounding of ge. i mean, i like it and all, but ge kicks teh ass in comparison. never heard fade out or wolf flow, but i'm interested.

ZR (teenagequiet), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 20:46 (eighteen years ago) link

If you have not heard Wolf Flow, as I say time and again, trust me. I'm prepared to call it the definite album now.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 20:47 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah everyone seems to love that one, i really need to find it for less than seven million dollars and buy it! less than $40 would be preferable, tho.

ZR (teenagequiet), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 20:50 (eighteen years ago) link

I think Ned's right about Wolf Flow.

righteousmaelstrom (righteousmaelstrom), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 20:53 (eighteen years ago) link

It's handy because it covers the entire career and most of the best songs, plus great sound and brilliant performances. (That said Sterling's homemade comp just pips it as a best-of.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 20:55 (eighteen years ago) link

I like Fade Out the least. Guy's voice annoys me on that album.

josh in sf (stfu kthx), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 20:56 (eighteen years ago) link

There's no other band I love as much as LOOP.
All their records are in my top ten list.

skeggia, Wednesday, 26 April 2006 08:17 (eighteen years ago) link

A Gilded Eternity is £4.99 on Amazon (UK).

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 09:29 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
RE: HASTCo - I have the first record (Jo In Nine-G Hell: pretty dreadful w/ lame songwriting, tries to sound menacing, but just sounds ridiculous in a vaguely gothy way), and the third one (Psychedelische Musique: much better, more abstract, interesting abrasive textures, some of it reminds me a bit of krauty Chrome).

As said way upthread. For myself, I finally got said third one the other week -- quite good, actually at points comparable to where Main were at mid-nineties, ironically enough. But not entirely, and with their own particular approach. Now I need to investigate these other side projects from HaSTCo that are mentioned elsewhere...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 14:38 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
Exciting d0wnl4sd opportunity:

http://differentwaters.blogspot.com/

Scroll down a bit and get stuck in.

Incidentally, how does one use winrar (or whatever it's called) without it fucking up one's winzip? I mean, this some crazy shit.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 13 July 2006 09:50 (seventeen years ago) link

I've recently been reinvestigating their back catalogue.

God, I love Loop.

Thom Yorke Is My Spirit Guide (kate), Thursday, 13 July 2006 09:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Incidentally, how does one use winrar (or whatever it's called) without it fucking up one's winzip?

huh?

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Thursday, 13 July 2006 09:56 (seventeen years ago) link

It seems to override all winzip functions, files, etc.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 13 July 2006 10:26 (seventeen years ago) link

during install there should be an 'associate winrar with these filetypes' checkbox. uncheck that checkbox. oh, too late.

in winzip there may be a 're-associate winzip with these file types', check that box. ('options menu - configuration - system tab' on mine).

so, where to start with loop? (i have wolf flow)

koogy wonderland (koogs), Thursday, 13 July 2006 10:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Koogsy, I think you'd like their earlier stuff better - Heaven's End or World In Your Eyes.

I mean, normally I'd say Fade Out should be the starting point, but knowing your tastes, I think you'd like the... prettier, more psychedelic stuff at the beginning.

Thom Yorke Is My Spirit Guide (kate), Thursday, 13 July 2006 10:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I used to have Heaven's End, Koogs. That's good. You may find yourself swinging your hair around in a psychedelic manner - don't frighten the coot chicks!

Your winrar explanation makes sense.

This happened some time ago, it's not now. I just wonder whether I dare try winrar again.

I think I should give it a go.

I have one of those little memory sticks so that I can download things at work to supplement my meagre income.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 13 July 2006 10:38 (seventeen years ago) link

> I think you'd like the... prettier, more psychedelic stuff at the beginning.

the wimpier stuff you mean? why i oughta...

koogy wonderland (koogs), Thursday, 13 July 2006 10:40 (seventeen years ago) link

No, trust me, Loop were never wimpy. They just seem more like Pale Saints, JAMC and other stuff you like in the earlier days.

Thom Yorke Is My Spirit Guide (kate), Thursday, 13 July 2006 10:44 (seventeen years ago) link

thank you, random mp3 blog!

so hongro, so angry (haitch), Thursday, 13 July 2006 11:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Actually, Koogs, I think the first album has some crossover with the Peel Sessions. But I could be wrong. You never know.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 13 July 2006 12:53 (seventeen years ago) link

No, trust me, Loop were never wimpy. ....
-- Thom Yorke Is My Spirit Guide (masonicboo...) (webmail), Today 11:44 AM. (later) (link)

Hmm, the one time I saw them live, they were all "oh no, I've got a really bad cold, ok?" like Neil from the Young ones.

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 13 July 2006 12:57 (seventeen years ago) link

aw man, wolf flow...shit is tight. "afterglow" is like my favorite song of the last three months.

FAN DEATH (teenagequiet), Thursday, 13 July 2006 12:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, they were a bit like Neil.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 13 July 2006 13:33 (seventeen years ago) link

OK, apparently Robert was a miserable sod, but their MUSIC was never wimpy, alright?

Thom Yorke Is My Spirit Guide (kate), Thursday, 13 July 2006 13:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Don't know what this site is but saw it when i googled loop and registered just to ask a couple of questions and seems like people use the answer board as a chat of sorts so i ask. i recently bought a gilded after someone recommended to me and was a little put off by the complete inaudibility(?) of the vocals-i have to strain my ears just to barely hear them. Is this how the vocals are or is it my stereo? And based on the other entries and i didn't read all of them so my Q's could already have been answered, it seems like some of the people here can find loop CDS pretty easy.maybe cause you guys are from uk but in my town in california, about 30 miles or so from san francisco, i have gone to various record stores for the past year or so hoping to find a loop cd, among other 'shoegazer' bands in the bins, there never was one. Not until i went on a family trip to monterey did i find a used copy of AGE (to my delight and later displeasure) in some out of the way shop. So some advice on tracking them down would be nice and my last q is was Heaven's end released in the uk only and is availble only as an import in the us? an answer would be nice. and i think h&stc's first album is great-enjoyed it more than AGE which if i said in person to some fellows on hear i would probably be killed but oh well.

Johnny Boy (lovelyludwig), Monday, 17 July 2006 21:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Not until i went on a family trip to monterey did i find a used copy of AGE (to my delight and later displeasure) in some out of the way shop.

Good grief, what was this store? My family lives in Carmel and who knows what else might be tucked away there.

As for inaudible vocals, well, that's kinda the way Robert sung then!

Anyway, welcome, but a tip -- don't say "I didn't read the rest of the thread responses" or anything like that. Actually *read* them first. We're here to help. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 17 July 2006 21:42 (seventeen years ago) link

four months pass...
From http://roberthampson.com/news/index.html

"31.10.06. Loop reissues
I'd like to announce, after much pleading, badgering, coercement etc. from many (THANK YOU!), that I am finally putting the wheels into motion on a LOOP Reissue programme. No formal plans have been made as yet, it is very, very, very early days and it may take some time, but the intent is there after all this time. Seeing that 2007 will mark the 20th Anniversary of the release of HEAVEN'S END, I feel I have no excuses left to leave the material out of print. Hopefully, a full and extensive remastering process will be involved, but that's all I can say right at this moment. I will certainly keep you all up to date with further postings... "

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 13:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey, nice. Just so long as we get tons of rarities or something...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 13:50 (seventeen years ago) link

I'd be happy if they were only remastered...my Loop CD's all sound sludgy...(and not intentionally so)...

hank (hank s), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 14:29 (seventeen years ago) link

kool thing!

come on baby let's go downtown (teenagequiet), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 14:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Great news!

righteousmaelstrom (righteousmaelstrom), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 15:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Thank god I've still never found a cheap copy of Fade Out.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 15:50 (seventeen years ago) link

not to mention the out-of-nowhere production job for Amp on Stenorette.

omg, got this album in the post today and am currently listening to it! to quote nathan barley, coincimental!

You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 17:11 (seventeen years ago) link

great news; I slept on getting fade out for years and years and then when I finally went to buy it it was OOP and out of my price range.

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 17:21 (seventeen years ago) link

L, OOP?

You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 17:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I found my copy randomly used for something like $5, so yay smug me.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 17:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I bought it - on vinyl - when it came out.

I have teh dronerock cred! Nyeah!

(But it, with all my vinyl, is still in storage at my mum's house. Bah.)

I will probably get all the reissues anyway. Coz I'm sad like that.

Breaking Under The Crush (kate), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 17:29 (seventeen years ago) link

YAYYY!!!!! I just got A Gilded Eternity from LaLa and luckily paid nothing for it (well, technically like $1.75...) but chyea this is exciting to da max.

less-than three's Christiane F. (drowned in milk), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 19:21 (seventeen years ago) link

A Gilded Eternity sounds fine even today, but the earlier stuff could use remastering (then again, I would say that, based on my criticisms upthread).

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 19:27 (seventeen years ago) link

"Collision" could do with a remaster as the vinyl sounds *much* better.

I.M. From Hollywood (i_m_from_hollywood), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 19:31 (seventeen years ago) link

I have Fade Out and A Gilded Eternity on vinyl. Still need to get the vinyl of Heaven's End

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 19:53 (seventeen years ago) link

REISSUES: AWESOME.

especially since i slept on the early releases (though i did get much of them as cutout casettes for $1 each - thank you coconuts).

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 01:07 (seventeen years ago) link

two months pass...
I've just come across this site while looking for (free!)LOOP mp3s and can't believe pepole still have so much time to devote to this band so many years on.

Heaven's End was/is a great album and was my soundtrack to many a hazy evening. That meld from Too Real To Feel to Fix to Fall still gets me!
There really was something about LOOP - I travelled from Dublin to London a couple of times to see them play and their gigs were like an open invitation to space out. great light show too.

My girlfriend at the time was particularly upset about how excited i got at laying my hands on a gorgeous pink sleeved World in Your Eyes album.She didn't undersatnd my enthusiasm and I can only guess that she wished I'd show the same level of enthusiasm and childish excitement toward her. Needless to say, she's now an ex.


Anyway, glad to see that LOOP continues to inspire such enthusiasm from new listeners. If it's worth anything, I too would love to hear a remasterrd Heaven's End, (if you ain't hearing it on vinyl you're probably ain't hearing it at its best) but that's just being picky.

David Rafferty (davidrafferty), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 21:31 (seventeen years ago) link

can't believe pepole still have so much time to devote to this band so many years on

Trust me, you've found the right board for it (and welcome!). I admit I was hoping this was more about the reissues!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 21:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Me too.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 21:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Not really concerned about re-issues - tho prob won't be able to resist if I come across them. Having said that, I'm reassured that there are others who appreciate a good thing when they hear it. Pfunk, ta for link to rhampsons page above

David Rafferty (davidrafferty), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link

five months pass...

Any news on the reissues?

flowersdie, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 09:10 (sixteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

Look, I really can't stand it. There's got to be a better place to post about Loop than the goddamn "best shoegazing band" thread. I mean wtf?
They were the fucking shit though. Oh yes they were. Do you know what I really think about them is that they predicted American grunge. Yep. I'm serious. They knew exactly where it was all going to go. Come on damnit, Loop. They make me feel like I'm 16 again for sure.

So yeah...predicted American grunge. Anyone wanna take me on? Let's argue about it, if need be. I'm ready.

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Sunday, 4 May 2008 23:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Also the goddamn ARC LIGHT 12"

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Sunday, 4 May 2008 23:22 (fifteen years ago) link


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