Eno/Byrne's My Life In The Bush Of Ghosts Reissued?

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Awesome! Is that the normal "Q'uran" or something different?

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 22:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Thanks for Quran, willem. I was missing that track.

The Ghosts record isn't considered a Talking Heads record, hence no DualDisc, Geir.

The story I'd heard is the one Naive tells, that as Eno became more and more involved with the band - and remember, he'd been around since their first LP - Harrison et al. got sick of being the backup for the Byrne and Eno Show.

Brakhage (brakhage), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 22:27 (eighteen years ago) link

As far as I know, it is "Qu'ran" as it appeared on this edition of the album (I got it through slsk), making it the "normal" version I guess.

willem -- (willem), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 22:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Is there an abnormal version too?

StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 22:36 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't know, maybe NTI does... Or maybe he was hoping it was a different version :-)

willem -- (willem), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 22:38 (eighteen years ago) link

He was.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 00:07 (eighteen years ago) link

From a recent Iranian release (lots of Islamic chanting, though not of the Qur'an, which I don't think would mess with, but it goes into acoustic blues at some point, etc.):

http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2WL2GT7XI83EP0KFMOF1N31CKM

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 12:16 (eighteen years ago) link

what other records are expicitly responses to/influenced by this?

Jean Michel Jarre's Zoolook. Honestly.

JimD (JimD), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 12:34 (eighteen years ago) link

cripes, willem's YSI has expired as well!

Any chance of another re-up, someone? Pretty please?

Jeff W (zebedee), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 13:06 (eighteen years ago) link

if someone hasn't done so before tonight, then etc...

willem -- (willem), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 13:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Jeff W, neither of your mail addresses work. Too bad, now you're going to have to be one of the 9 people who gets this before it expires (beta.yousendit.com = uploads expire after 10 downloads !? damn.)

http://download.yousendit.com/300B8AC731FAF5D1

72 Mb zip file, 14 tracks (13 from the boot + Qu'ran)

myfullname, Wednesday, 15 February 2006 17:47 (eighteen years ago) link

oh I'm all for taking my chances in the scrummage. That's democracy innit?

Anyway, got it, thanks very much myfullname.

beta.yousendit.com = uploads expire after 10 downloads !? damn
On the plus side, no annoying adverts... yet.

Jeff W, Wednesday, 15 February 2006 18:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Zoolook is amazing. Or at least "Ethnicolor."

Myke. (Myke Weiskopf), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 23:01 (eighteen years ago) link

No, the whole thing is.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 23:07 (eighteen years ago) link

How about Deep Forest and Enigma?

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 23:51 (eighteen years ago) link

let's not go there

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 16 February 2006 00:20 (eighteen years ago) link

You know, I checked a few weeks ago, and Jean Michel Jarre is WAY under-represented on ILM. One day soon I'm going to pick up one of the very few, very short threads he's had, and write a big old essay. Painfully undderrated in SO many ways (and yet it's all his own fault!).

Nice to see some Zoolook love here though. I think it's often my favourite.

JimD (JimD), Thursday, 16 February 2006 01:13 (eighteen years ago) link

go ahead and write that essay, Zoolook's my sentimental favorite too

milton parker (Jon L), Thursday, 16 February 2006 01:18 (eighteen years ago) link

No, the whole thing is.

Okay, I suppose I was remembering there being more dated robo-funk on this album, but having listened to it again, "Zoolook (Remix)" is the only track that doesn't hold up much for me. I stand corrected. Really, few have done as much with language (as opposed to simply voices) as Jarre did on this album...

Myke. (Myke Weiskopf), Thursday, 16 February 2006 03:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Milton/Jon got me into Zoolook some time back -- and yes, it's awesome.

But let's not forget this: Analog Synthesizer Epics: S/D, POV

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 16 February 2006 03:29 (eighteen years ago) link

from Pitchfork:

All of the multitracks from two of the album's songs will be available for download on a special website, www.bush-of-ghosts.com, which will go live approximately one month before the reissue's release. Users can remix the tracks and upload them, listen and rate other users' remixes, and create and upload their own videos inspired by the album's songs. In addition, the site will feature archival material dating back to the record's original production and release, including press, session photos, polaroids taken by Byrne, and a video for "Mea Culpa" directed by Bruce Conner. The video will also be included on the CD reissue.

Anything involving Bruce Conner is good. So maybe this will be a DualDisc then?

Brakhage (brakhage), Thursday, 16 February 2006 20:51 (eighteen years ago) link

There was a Conner video for America Is Waiting as well if memory serves.

Brakhage (brakhage), Thursday, 16 February 2006 20:58 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.canyoncinema.com/C/Conner_D_America.JPG

I hadn't even heard of his video for "Mea Culpa", that is exciting.

milton parker (Jon L), Thursday, 16 February 2006 21:39 (eighteen years ago) link

That "America is Waiting" video is on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pIGbxx9uWk

StanM (StanM), Thursday, 16 February 2006 21:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Dang, the Mea Culpa used to be on Ubuweb (google cache link):
http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:NFvZ3-NDZXgJ:writing.upenn.edu/pepc/ubu/film/conner_mea_culpa.html+%22Mea+Culpa%22+%22bruce+conner%22&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1&client=safari

This reissue is sounding better and better all the time.

The packaging reminds me of the CD/DVD reissue of 'World of Echo', though.

Brakhage (brakhage), Thursday, 16 February 2006 22:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Seems that iI was too late to find this thread to get the tracks at yousendit. Any chance of a reload please.

Bananabob, Tuesday, 28 February 2006 06:19 (eighteen years ago) link

I will re-up it tonight if nobody else has by then.

zebedee (zebedee), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 10:59 (eighteen years ago) link

OK, here's yet one more outing for that zip full of demos:

http://s65.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=23Z4OX3LY849H2ADLFC22PM26F

zebedee (zebedee), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 20:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Thanks zebedee! You are a master!
Bb

Bananabob, Wednesday, 1 March 2006 06:26 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Subject: Your Amazon.co.uk order

Dear Customer,

We wanted to give you an update on the status of your order.

We are sorry to report that the following items have been delayed.

Brian Eno (Artist), David Byrne (Artist) "My Life in the Bush of
Ghosts [IMPORT]" [Audio CD]

We are sorry for any inconvenience this causes.


(Amazon.co.uk first had March 28th, has now been changed to April 11th)

StanM (StanM), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 09:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Anything involving Bruce Conner is good. So maybe this will be a DualDisc then?

-- Brakhage (cognitivebia...) (webmail), February 16th, 2006 3:51 PM. (brakhage) (link)

i'm sorry, but this had me laughing.. nice of you to bring attention to one of your peers.

meth lab for doug flutie (sanskrit), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 13:40 (eighteen years ago) link

I try to send a little business his way now and then

http://bushofghosts.wmg.com/watch_video.php

Brakhage (brakhage), Saturday, 25 March 2006 00:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Of course they had to go and misspell his name on the site

Brakhage (brakhage), Saturday, 25 March 2006 00:30 (eighteen years ago) link

It's in the shops in Belgium! (It's an Enhanced CD, no DualDisc. The Mea Culpa video is a 34Mb Quicktime file)

Please don't share that demos zip file from upthread anymore, the demos from in there are on the remastered edition (reworked versions, I think, they're not 100% the same). Here's the three that we knew from the crackly vinyl bootleg:

Pitch to Voltage (= cunning tendacy = on the way to zagora)
Two Against Three (= iron bed = the friends of amos tutuola)
Vocal Outtakes (not on the bootlegs) (weird vocal effects)
New Feet (not on the bootlegs) (weird rhythmical eastern thing)
Defiant (not on the bootlegs) (very different version of The Jezebel Spirit and Lot/Into The Spirit World)
Number 8 Mix (= late but not serious = les hommes ne sauront jamais)
Solo Guitar with Tin Foil (not on the bootlegs) (quiet ambient track, completely different from everything else on this disc)

First impression of the sound: much louder than before. it's not as drastic as I had expected, but the sound is WAY better. (I had feared the removal of all the tape hiss, but they haven't done that, so it still sounds like the analog cut+paste experiment it really is instead of some clinically clean digital sampler sequence they could have made from it.)

Very nice packaging & booklet. Essay by David Toop and a kind of Making Of report by Eno & Byrne, plus some of the studio pics that are also on the www.bush-of-ghosts.com site.

StanM (StanM), Saturday, 25 March 2006 17:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Here's the three that we knew from the crackly vinyl bootleg:

(... and the 4 new tracks we didn't.)

StanM (StanM), Saturday, 25 March 2006 17:34 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.bush-of-ghosts.com (very active lately: e.g. a press release dated 03/25/06 , but the remix site is still coming soon)

StanM (StanM), Saturday, 25 March 2006 17:41 (eighteen years ago) link

NOW I get it! That press release only concerns the US, apparently. "Nonesuch Records & EMI are proud to announce the release on April 11 of seminal collaborative"

But the one I just bought is Virgin Records/EMI and made in EU, release date March 27th. The one I had on preorder from Amazon UK was the import version, they added the regular European edition after I placed that order.

Anyway. Nevermind. I was slightly confused but now I finally understand the release dates are two weeks apart.

StanM (StanM), Saturday, 25 March 2006 17:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Sorry to hijack this thread, but I just discovered something. :-)

While making this mp3 file for you all (10 seconds of Regiment from EGCD48, half a second of silence and the same 10 seconds from the new edition), I found out that this section is at 2:40 on the old CD and at 2:54 on the new one. So they've done more than just clean up the old tapes.

Compare: 2 x 10 seconds of Regiment. (662 kb mp3 file, 256 kb/sec LAME compression, ripped with EAC, same settings, same drive, no normalization)

StanM (StanM), Saturday, 25 March 2006 18:16 (eighteen years ago) link

It's in the shops in UK too. Got it in HMV last night.

Had a quick listen to the bonus tracks this morning. I could be wrong - I haven't done a side-by-side comparison or anything - but I reckon those demo files are still not redundant, not by a long chalk.

Anyway, what I really came here to say was:
- in the booklet there are great photos of Byrne and (especially) Eno in the studio looking geeky, plus new essays by David Toop and Byrne & Eno
- the booklet mentions that there are 2 tracks to download from a website that, after signing a license agreement, you are allowed to remix and sample in any way you like
- I couldn't see anywhere in the credits of the CD the list of sound sources / samples used (i.e. the ones that were on the original LP sleeve), which I thought was a bit odd.

zebedee (zebedee), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 10:19 (eighteen years ago) link

but I reckon those demo files are still not redundant, not by a long chalk.

No, you're right, I recognised them in my previous message, but after listening to the bootleg again, I agree that the versions are very different indeed.

Also: new vocals at the end of The Carrier again? (there's one vocal on the three versions, but the demo had another second vocal, and this remaster has another second vocal, if I'm not mistaken)

StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 10:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Great roundup StanM - this is the way I wish all reissues were packaged.

New mix sounds more claustrophobic and bass-heavy but I'm sure I'll get into it when I have the whole CD to listen to.

Brakhage (brakhage), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 17:18 (eighteen years ago) link

zebedee: yep, you're right, the "unidentified indignant radio host, San Francisco, April 1980" credits aren't on there. They're still on EnoWeb, though. (http://enoweb.co.uk -> lyrics -> my life in the bush of ghosts)

And the "remixes" part of their site is still "coming soon" - probably around April 11, when the US edition is released, I expect.

StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 18:06 (eighteen years ago) link

the entire website, (cc) 2006 creative commons license. biggest project yet to go with lessig's baby?

is it just the website, or can someone with a physical copy confirm if the actual CD carries a creative commons license as well?

milton parker (Jon L), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 18:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Nope, just the site. The CD is (p) and (c) Virgin Records Ltd.

StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 18:30 (eighteen years ago) link

the cd isn't creative commons licensed but two of the songs are being offered as remixable multitracks, check here: http://www.boingboing.net/2006/03/30/byrneeno_bush_of_gho.html

Juan44, Friday, 31 March 2006 14:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Remix site still not online? (the reissue was released in the US yesterday, right?)

StanM (StanM), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 17:34 (eighteen years ago) link

There's a Nonesuch ad for the reissue in the New Yorker this week.

o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 18:24 (eighteen years ago) link

I heard "America is Waiting" last night on public radio, and even on my tinny car radio speakers the new mix sounds really GOOD!

Daniel Peterson (polkaholic), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 20:11 (eighteen years ago) link

The good:
The music sounds great. I like the new cover art and the included short essays in the booklet are great.

The bad:
Another one of these damn cheap cardboard sleeves. You know, the ones that are so tight that it's a bitch to extract the jewel case and you're going to end up destroying it anyway or throwing it out since it has nothing inherently useful.

mike h. (mike h.), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 20:19 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
I really want to like this but it isn't quite hitting me. Perhaps it would have seemed more revelatory had I been 26 when it first came out instead of now? At worst it sounds a bit like a big digeridoo/drum circle, at best it makes me think of an auditory counterpart to this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/24/The_Medium_is_the_Massage_cover.jpg

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 22:20 (eighteen years ago) link


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