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Never mind the article anyway; what do people think of the graphic design on the banner-link to it from the frontpage? Isn't that picture beautiful? (i.e. it's one of mine, as are quite a lot of the stock images on Stylus...)

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 11:51 (twenty years ago) link

Fuck it. Fuck off the lot of you.

1st point of issue - Soweto Kinch.

1) Dom couldn't remember his name. That is all.

2) I said what I said NOT because it's hip-hop and jazz, but because people are saying it's great because it's a fusion of hip-hop and jazz, like when people say Faithless are really clever and innovative because they have live instruments, or Jason Downs thought he was really clever because he was a country musician who had a rapper on his records, or The Red Hot Chilli Peppers think they're really clever because they fuse funk and rock and rap and, fuck it, I dunno, throat singing, because they're so fucking immensely fucking talented. Common thread between the three - they're shite, jsut like the Stereophonics, just like Starsailor, trading off their supposed 'talent' rather than the music they actually come out with. Maybe Mr Kinch bucks this trend, I have no idea. I may even listen to some of his music one day.

The Dizzee Rascal comments that I made, I do apologise for. Not racist, just rather flippant and ill-informed. Thing is, upon reading them again, they're eerily reminiscent of comments So Solid Crew made about him in their NME interview, about how he's not street because he hasn't gone top 10, and has probably never even seen a gun, comments that nearly propelled me to buy the album solely because they were that ignorant and ill-informed. Of course, though, I didn't, and I bought the Wildhearts and Mower instead. I also went public school, am a virgin, and am currently drinking a bottle of Fanta and eating a Mars Bar thus increasing the grip of the evil corporations on the world or whatever the fuck else you wanna fucking have a go at me about. I didn't go on the anti-war marches, there's one.

Truth be told, I can't fucking stand situations like this. This is why you're waiting on four album reviews from me, because I hate confrontation, I hate discussion, I hate upsetting people, and all the fucking time I'm pussyfooting around trying to avoid bullshit like this by not saying anything, which is probably why half the fucking top 40 review is filled with pictures, and the other half is basically me going 'Erm...' Alright? I can't fucking write about music, I can't fucking write about anything without sounding like a bloody simpleton, an arrogant prick, or just a fucking moron generally. And that ISN'T whinging, I am NOT having a go at you, I don't fucking know what I am doing, I'm meant to be writing some letter to uni about how exactly I want to go back there because otherwise I'm fucking stuck where I am right bloody now, but no, I'm writing this stream-of-consciousness bile-fuelled fuckerbucker 500 cack because I cannot handle anything.

Dom, you just missed Raul Malo on Des & Mel.

W.B. SWygart, Tuesday, 9 September 2003 11:55 (twenty years ago) link

Dom, you just missed Raul Malo on Des & Mel.

You see, that's the important thing here.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 12:01 (twenty years ago) link

ah fuck. Couldn't fucking keep it simple, could I.

Sorry. Sorry sorry sorry sorry.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 12:03 (twenty years ago) link

Don't fret.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 12:04 (twenty years ago) link

In fact, I've just remembered. If you really wanna get offended, XFM's Music:Response show had Dizzee Rascal as their album of the week when it came out. THis meant they had a competition each night to win a copy. If I remember right, this competition went along the following lines: female presenter says some 'street slang', and the callers have to guess what it means.

This, I think, is roughly what you're equating me with. Which I'm not very happy about.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 12:09 (twenty years ago) link

Actually I'm squarely equating you with an idiotic racist who prefers to make fun of the names of musicians WHEN THEY HAVEN'T EVEN LISTENED TO THE MUSIC IN QUESTION.

If you're not even capable of undertaking that elementary level of homework, you should not be writing about music.

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 9 September 2003 12:25 (twenty years ago) link

We weren't making fun of his name.

And no, maybe we shouldn't be.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 12:27 (twenty years ago) link

Yes Marcello. That's exactly what you're doing. Well done.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 12:29 (twenty years ago) link

Yes you were, and no maybe about it - you shouldn't be.

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 9 September 2003 12:29 (twenty years ago) link

No we weren't. He couldn't remember Soweto Kinch's name, and he made a guess at it. That's it. That's what it was. That's all it fucking was.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 12:30 (twenty years ago) link

Then you should have said that, instead of "There's that Brummie guy with the stupid name," shouldn't you?

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 9 September 2003 12:31 (twenty years ago) link

Yes, but this doesn't ACTUALLY indicate racism, does it? Idiocy I will accept, ranting without having heard the music I will also accept. But for fuck's sake, Marcello, you're intelligent enough not to stoop such to sub-Trifean levels... I mean, Jesus.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 12:36 (twenty years ago) link

This is demeaning everybody involved now.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 12:37 (twenty years ago) link

So would it be racism if I'd done the same thing about a white guy, or are you just randomly chucking out double standards because trolling is more productive for you than forming actual relationships with other human beings?

(Xpost)

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 12:38 (twenty years ago) link

Cool down bredren. Stop all the fussin' and fightin'.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 12:44 (twenty years ago) link

Is Soweto Kinch any good then? Should I buy his record?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 12:48 (twenty years ago) link

He's potentially a very good altoist indeed. The record's OK - I'm not sure that the rap stuff fits in, and the d&b bit on "Mungo's Adventure" doesn't quite work, but things like "Doxology" and "Flame Thrower" are very fine post-Coltrane workouts. I'd say it was worth a listen.

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 9 September 2003 12:53 (twenty years ago) link

Hey, can I add my two cents?

A) I wasn't a huge fan of that piece, largely b/c I thought the IM-ish thing was just sort of sloppy and hard to read. Nick and I tried to pull off a piece like this earlier and, well, it never ran. For good reason.

B) I think there's a difference between "racism" and "racial insensitivity". One is pretty much evil -- the other merely stupid. This seemed to clearly be flirting the latter -- a tossed-off, somewhat poorly thought-out attempt at glibness.

I would hope, Marcello, you wouldn't write off Stylus based on one isolated instance of something of this nature.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 13:42 (twenty years ago) link

(btw, Marcello, nice tribute to Ian Mac in COM)

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 13:43 (twenty years ago) link

three years pass...

Someone on another board (ok, h1p1n1on) says this, which may or may not be an attempt at a hoax, but I'm just copying since I don't know:

One of my friends works at a promotions company and got an email back from them saying:

"Hi there PR person/band person:

Stylus Magazine will no longer be actively published starting on
October 31, 2007. We may or may not be stopping publishing reviews
long before that, so please DO NOT send any discs to us."

?

StanM, Thursday, 30 August 2007 17:16 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.uwsp.edu/news/photos/MOURNING.gif

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 30 August 2007 17:30 (sixteen years ago) link

dom this isnt the thread to brag about girls you fucked

and what, Thursday, 30 August 2007 17:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Originally I was going to post this picture:

http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/1999/461/mourning.jpg

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 30 August 2007 17:39 (sixteen years ago) link

some behind-the-scenes magic right there

and what, Thursday, 30 August 2007 17:41 (sixteen years ago) link

hey, ethan, two out of three ain't bad, especially the one at the back. you could argue on balance that it's a haul to be proud of!

Just got offed, Thursday, 30 August 2007 18:39 (sixteen years ago) link

if it's true, then someone's got to keep Single Jukebox alive. It's my favorite feature, with some of the stalwarts of NYLPM.

orb_q, Thursday, 30 August 2007 18:53 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah, i'd be bummed if that got the ax too, for obvious reasons.

Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 30 August 2007 18:58 (sixteen years ago) link

What???

baaderonixx, Friday, 31 August 2007 10:11 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't know! That's why I posted it.

StanM, Friday, 31 August 2007 11:07 (sixteen years ago) link

Well the Stypod went away a few weeks ago and Beatz By the Pound (my definite favorite part of the site) has certainly slowed in the past few weeks. Surely someone here can confirm.

matt2, Friday, 31 August 2007 16:16 (sixteen years ago) link

:-( :-( :-(

Cunga, Friday, 31 August 2007 16:19 (sixteen years ago) link

stylus has a weekly feature about beats by the pound?!

and what, Friday, 31 August 2007 16:21 (sixteen years ago) link

you missed last week's column about Charge It 2 Da Game?

Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 31 August 2007 16:29 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah i gotta say the debate between mo b. dick & nick southall about radiohead's best album was kinda predictable tho

and what, Friday, 31 August 2007 16:42 (sixteen years ago) link

???

Scik Mouthy, Friday, 31 August 2007 16:44 (sixteen years ago) link

haha i could actually imagine an audiophile discussion between klc and southall, he seems like the kind of dude who would give a shit about that sort of thing

deej, Friday, 31 August 2007 16:49 (sixteen years ago) link

time for KLC poll

and what, Friday, 31 August 2007 16:54 (sixteen years ago) link

... so it's not true then? Or aren't we supposed to know about it yet?

StanM, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 11:38 (sixteen years ago) link

so this was on HIPINION was it

am0n, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 14:33 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm still writing.

Scik Mouthy, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 14:35 (sixteen years ago) link

ok, fair point, the two of you.

StanM, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 14:41 (sixteen years ago) link

I didn't know about Hipinion til today...JESUS CHRIST! IT'S TERRRRRRIBLE.

Tape Store, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 22:44 (sixteen years ago) link

i need an ALL NEW STYLUS for one of my turntables

deej, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 23:12 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

any news?

groovemaaan, Thursday, 25 October 2007 18:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Probably a hoax, never heard a thing about this since.

StanM, Thursday, 25 October 2007 18:36 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't think it's telling tales out of school if I say so, but it turns out it's true, Stylus is kaput.

Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 25 October 2007 23:25 (sixteen years ago) link

Really?

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 25 October 2007 23:28 (sixteen years ago) link

so I hear! I haven't been a regular contributor or in the loop for like a year, though. sorry to anyone if it's supposed to be under wraps at the moment but if people are already speculating then it's not really much a secret.

Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 25 October 2007 23:31 (sixteen years ago) link

Uh.

jaymc, Thursday, 25 October 2007 23:34 (sixteen years ago) link


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