― bobby bedelia (van dover), Saturday, 10 February 2007 23:53 (seventeen years ago) link
perhaps, but it's easy to say now. it certainly doesn't excuse some of the western excesses during the cold war, but as eisbär says, the sovs were at least a real world power, unlike today's main bogeymen.
it is weird to look back and see claims that indochina or chile or greece would be the fatal domino, though.
― mookieproof (mookieproof), Sunday, 11 February 2007 00:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 11 February 2007 01:06 (seventeen years ago) link
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Sunday, 11 February 2007 01:43 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.newyorker.com/critics/books/articles/070129crbo_books_crain
my gut answer is truman but i have really no reason!
― geoff (gcannon), Sunday, 11 February 2007 01:55 (seventeen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Sunday, 11 February 2007 02:00 (seventeen years ago) link
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Sunday, 11 February 2007 02:11 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 11 February 2007 04:25 (seventeen years ago) link
OTM. What did it say about Wilson that HARDING pardoned Eugene Debs, rotting in jail for being a Red and opposing Wilson for the presidency?
the more i learn about the cold war the more obvious it seems that it was pretty much all our doing. the soviet union had no intention of "spreading communism" to the rest of the world; that was a trotsky notion that stalin had tossed right out the window years before. there's no denying that stalin was a genuinely evil man and that the guys over here were just opportunistic and unprincipled, but that doesn't make the loyalty oaths and the national security act any less a betrayal of america's republican ideals
OTM yet again. This is what I wanted to say but lacked the space, except I would change "pretty much all our doing" to "we allowed Stalin to force our hand."
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 11 February 2007 04:29 (seventeen years ago) link
― Kate, non masonic, Wednesday, 21 February 2007 20:59 (seventeen years ago) link
― molly mummenschanz, Wednesday, 21 February 2007 21:07 (seventeen years ago) link
― molly mummenschanz, Wednesday, 21 February 2007 21:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― m coleman, Wednesday, 21 February 2007 22:15 (seventeen years ago) link
― Eisbaer, Thursday, 22 February 2007 00:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― Curt1s Stephens, Thursday, 22 February 2007 00:59 (seventeen years ago) link
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4f/Andrew_johnson2.jpg
― nakhchivan, Friday, 11 February 2011 02:43 (thirteen years ago) link
shiroibasketshoes +- guus hiddink
― nakhchivan, Friday, 11 February 2011 02:48 (thirteen years ago) link
everyone here more or less very much in character
― Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 February 2011 02:50 (thirteen years ago) link
Fantastic discussion here, one of my favorite recent ILE threads:
U.S. Presidents - Cold War and New Millennium Edition
― Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 February 2011 02:51 (thirteen years ago) link
https://radical.town/system/media_attachments/files/002/770/020/original/a24b6b375d03a941.jpg
― mark s, Tuesday, 25 June 2019 20:35 (four years ago) link
Eisenhower remains the only president or world leader, so far as I'm aware, that has a jacket style for a namesake. Surprised designers havent bagged on a Napoleon pocket yet for hoodies. It's a comfortable place to rest your hand, if you've a jacket that allots it.
― 57mg/20floz, Thursday, 27 June 2019 12:44 (four years ago) link
Dickies Eisenhower jackets rule
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, 27 June 2019 12:46 (four years ago) link