defend the indefensible: new jersey

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Years and years of memories of going to the beach. I know Jersey beaches aren't the best, but I don't know better first hand, really, and it was extremely exciting that the ocean would make it's way under the boardwalk at night. That is my idea of what a boardwalk is supposed to be.

More recently: it turns out to have surprisingly great places to go salsa dancing.

A lot of what Dan says is on the money.

I would seriously consider moving there.

x-post: Is there a Philly-Suburban accent? I wonder if I have it. I've moved around enough that I have a mixed accent, though it's clearly Philadelphia-centric, without necessarily being Philadelphian. I guess. I slip in and out of a real Philadelphia accent though.

― RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 01:38 (nineteen years ago) link

I know Jersey beaches aren't the best

i think they're pretty nice! but then i'm used to brooklyn beaches.

― Turkey versus Eagle, McCauley is my Beagle (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 01:44 (nineteen years ago) link

philly accent:
http://www.citypaper.net/articles/081497/article008.shtml

― Turkey versus Eagle, McCauley is my Beagle (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 01:47 (nineteen years ago) link

As a curious furriner, what is it about Newark that is so off? I looked at various pics and it just looks like a dirty subrban sprawl offshoot of NYC, which to my Aussie eyes looks very american and kinda cool in a morbid way.

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 01:56 (nineteen years ago) link

it's just grey and dingy and ghetto, but its bark is worse than its bite.

― Turkey versus Eagle, McCauley is my Beagle (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 01:58 (nineteen years ago) link

I kinda like that asthetic, myself. I suppose because I grew up with the precise opposite (Canberra being a v young, v parklike, green, planned, tidy city).

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 01:59 (nineteen years ago) link

since i've invaded the oz thread, it's only right that trayce invade this one. welcome!

princeton and trenton are roughly the dividing lines betwixt north and south jersey, for what it's worth. there are more than a few iggles fans in and around princeton.

newark's bark may be worse than its bite, but its bite can still be pretty bad. though REAL jerseyans know that newark ain't shit compared to camden -- camden is HARDCORE bad-ass.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 06:10 (nineteen years ago) link

Sez the NY Times, anyway.

― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 07:09 (nineteen years ago) link

east orange and irvington are 2 north jersey shitholes that are worse than newark.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 07:17 (nineteen years ago) link

What Trenton Makes...

...The World Takes!

― Ken L (Ken L), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 07:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, I briefly worked in Orange and East Orange. The words "the teen streets" still make me shudder.

― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 07:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Sez the NY Times, anyway.

the times DOES have this odd fascination with the place, don't they? at least once a year, they have some piece (in the Metro section) about what a hopeless hellhole it is. and it IS bad.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 07:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Before deciding to attend Rutgers, I went to an open house. The representatives from Camden showed up 30 minutes late with tons of make-up and their shirts tied above their bellies. They honestly looked like prostitutes.

― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 08:10 (nineteen years ago) link

regarding the Times,

Maybe the desolation fills a craving for authenticity that New Yorkers have now that they've gentrified everything from the sewers up.

― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 08:11 (nineteen years ago) link

eight months pass...

Well - I just wanted to say it's nice to see others fighting for NJ. A lot of what people have said here I feel too. I've been to 40 states and no where else in the world would I rather be than in NJ. I love NJ so much that I even started a website - http://www.AboutNewJersey.com

― Jersey Devil, Tuesday, 13 September 2005 07:48 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...

What is up with Morristown being full of Republican MILFs? Seriously, MILFs in SUVs with W bumper stickers, MILFs with jailbait catholic school daughters, MILFs reasing "100 People Who Are Destroying America"

Sorry.

― Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 13 October 2005 00:44 (eighteen years ago) link

defend the indefensible: morristown

― glasgow coma score (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 13 October 2005 04:47 (eighteen years ago) link

morristown used to have a hardcore ghetto. so it's not ALL soccer MILFs!

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 13 October 2005 05:00 (eighteen years ago) link

After work Mondays I like to get espresso at the ice cream place and perv on all the hot moms. Sometimes I get vibes from some of them.

― Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 13 October 2005 05:05 (eighteen years ago) link

That place has awesome food and really good coffee, btw (I think it's called Main Street Creamery or something like that)

― Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 13 October 2005 05:07 (eighteen years ago) link

MILFistown
MILFburg

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 13 October 2005 05:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, why would we have to go to New Jersey? ewww. Even the sales tax ain't worth it.
-- Jonothong Williamsmang (ironin...), October 18th, 2005. (later)

FIGHT

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, MILFs, for one thing.

― Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, uh if i wanna go shopping in NJ what do I do.

1) PATH Train
2) ?????
3) Profit?

― Jonothong Williamsmang (ex machina), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:32 (eighteen years ago) link

LBI and the Princeton Record Exchange

― rasheed wallace (rasheed wallace), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Ikea dude!

― Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:33 (eighteen years ago) link

One reason New Yorkers do occasionally come to our fine state is to see shows at Maxwell's.

― Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:34 (eighteen years ago) link

the last time i went to the record exchange (6 years ago), it seemed to be a shadow of its former self. then again, that was 6 years ago and i've been spoiled by amazon.com and cdnow.com. it's still worth a trip!

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, the internet will spoil you for any record stores.

Dude, we should do a an ILX PREX trip!

― Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:40 (eighteen years ago) link

NOISE FACT #1: The last 4 digits of Jon's phone number spell "IKEA".

Ok, like I don't even know where to take the PATH

― Jonothong Williamsmang (ex machina), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Actually I venture to teh PREX this weekend, maybe stop at Hoagie Haven, too.

― rasheed wallace (rasheed wallace), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Hmmm, I would be game to go to PREX to spend my first paycheck.

― Jonothong Williamsmang (ex machina), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:44 (eighteen years ago) link

prex is awesome for cheap vinyl.

― astor riviera (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:46 (eighteen years ago) link

I met a girl at the weekend who was from New Jersey and put up a very stout defence of her home state!

― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:47 (eighteen years ago) link

as well she should!

― astor riviera (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:47 (eighteen years ago) link

When you wear a shirt with a slogan on it, you are signing an unwritten contract stating you have the personality to back it up, correct?
http://www.afreeimagehost.com/upload/9436/jerseysurvivesxm.jpg

― Jonothong Williamsmang (ex machina), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:49 (eighteen years ago) link

There's not much point in going to Ikea without a car anyway, and I think the only way to get their from NYC otherwise is by bus (it's by Elizabeth).

But if you want to come to the next Jersey City FAP (if there ever is one), the PATH is really easy to get to. If you live along the L, you just take it to 14th and 6th Ave, and the PATH is right there in the station. Takes like 10 minutes to get here from there.

JC is ok - it looks kind of like parts of Brooklyn. The area I live in (which is the "desirable" area now) is a mix of Cuban restaurants, Pakistani groceries, and gentry-fried cafes and clothing boutiques.

There's no music venue or bookstore or record shop to speak of, which sucks. Hoboken (also on the PATH) is right next door and has Tunes for records (which is somewhat meh) and Maxwell's, and there's a couple of book shops. It's already pretty much maxed out as far as redevelopment goes. I kind of hope Jersey City will be able to maintain more of a balance, if that's possible.

― Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Well she had me convinced anyway! (xxpost)

― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:49 (eighteen years ago) link

There's also the whole waterfront area, which is what you can see from NY. It's kind of like nu-Alexandria across from DC - tons of new high rise buildings, totally clean like a non-lived-in city, lots of chain and brewpub-style restaurants.

― Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:50 (eighteen years ago) link

my mom was born in new jersey!

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:51 (eighteen years ago) link

i've found some great stuff at tunes -- a little overpriced but nothing that broke me too much.

there's a shuttle that goes to ikea from the port authority, no?

― astor riviera (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:51 (eighteen years ago) link

where is the love for weehawken?

― astor riviera (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:52 (eighteen years ago) link

I work off of the L at 6th ave.

― Jonothong Williamsmang (ex machina), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:52 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost Yeah, that sounds right. I've never had reason to take it (living on the other side with a car and all), but I think my aunt has.

― Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Weehawken? That's like a foreign country to me!

― Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:53 (eighteen years ago) link

I like Morristown.

― tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:53 (eighteen years ago) link

I like Morristown and also Moorestown.

― rasheed wallace (rasheed wallace), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:54 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm telling you the Creamery is fantastic. Great food. They serve Illy espresso too.

― Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:54 (eighteen years ago) link

this is your view if you live in weehawken:

http://static.flickr.com/24/52316727_2656c5c864.jpg?v=0

― astor riviera (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:55 (eighteen years ago) link

I like Tunes! Their selection of new CDs is pretty good, I've found lots of good used vinyl there, and I've found some really great steals in their used CD bin: The Cars, Keren Ann, The Bad Plus, Missy Elliott, etc. for $1-2.

xposts

― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:55 (eighteen years ago) link

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