Hatred of Itunes

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TURN THAT OPTION OFF THEN

WHAT IF I WANT IT ON NORMALLY?

steal compass, drive north, disappear (tissp), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:10 (eighteen years ago) link

god I hate WinAmp. Even though AOL bought them YEARS ago and had tons of mindshare and stuff they got stomped by iPod/iTunes -- originally a Mac only system -- in like a year!

R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:11 (eighteen years ago) link

I love how passionate you people get about this.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Attack of the French!

I use WinAmp at work still because I can't install anything else.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:13 (eighteen years ago) link

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HOPE YOU DON'T HAVE A WOBBLY MOUSE OR YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO STAY ON THOSE TINY BUTTONS

R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:15 (eighteen years ago) link

"Includes an MP3 of 'Saying Sorry' by Hawthorne Heights"

!

steal compass, drive north, disappear (tissp), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:17 (eighteen years ago) link

That's definitely the only competitor for iTunes out there.

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:21 (eighteen years ago) link

"TURN THAT OPTION OFF THEN
WHAT IF I WANT IT ON NORMALLY?"

well if you want it BOTH ways, you can hold down apple key to temporarily over-ride that setting :-)

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:23 (eighteen years ago) link

while dragging in the mp3 i mean obv

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Alan, I kiss you

steal compass, drive north, disappear (tissp), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:24 (eighteen years ago) link

i meant 'alt' (red face)

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:30 (eighteen years ago) link

(which makes more sense really)

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:31 (eighteen years ago) link

how do people organize their playlists? i've just started having lots of music on my computer and i've realized that making a new playlist for every album isn't going to cut it. it's way too much scrolling. but the prospect of making playlists for each genre - and worse, deciding what those genres are - makes my eyes bleed.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:31 (eighteen years ago) link

well in iTunes, you don't need to make album playlists. i make smart playlists based on genre and some other bits of metadata, then i review the results and tweak the genre cos values for that you get out of CDDB are next to meaningless.

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Tom, you agree with me right? It is 100x awful

R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:40 (eighteen years ago) link

it's always about the metadata.

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:42 (eighteen years ago) link

from your link jon: "The first thing I’ve done is organise my music into genre related playlists such as Indie, Dance, Chill etc. You could do this using a smart playlist and matching the genre to a specified keyword. However I find that the predefined genres tend to be pretty poorly defined."

indie. dance. chill. eyeball-bleeding followed by a degustatory self-immolation if you ever heard me using these fucking words near my music.

i may have to try browser view. the irksome thing about it, from my extremely limited trial runs, is that i don't want to remember that Pop Single #89 is from some random compilation, click on the compilation, etc.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:43 (eighteen years ago) link

this thread is brilliant.

tracer i use a smart playlist with songs that i haven't played and another with songs i've played but not rated and i have them randomized.

then another with songs rated four or five, again randomized.

i never use genre for anything.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:44 (eighteen years ago) link

for finding anything in particular i just habitually use the search bar.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:45 (eighteen years ago) link

I certainly don't organize my shit that way as I have several hundred gigabytes but for fuck's sake USE THE BROWSER VIEW..


THERE IS A SEARCH BUTTON

R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:45 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost to sc

R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:45 (eighteen years ago) link

errr xpost across sc even

R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:46 (eighteen years ago) link

i am all for browser view, but after years of resisting it i do playlists for my albums now, but just for my ipod. it's easier than remembering what albums i have on there and what artists are represented by just individual songs.

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:52 (eighteen years ago) link

i created one playlist in iTunes called Favourites which I drag stuff into if it's a fave. then set to shuffle.

or just shuffle the main Library directory.

in the unlikely (unless it's 'Silent Shout' it seems) event of wanting to hear several tracks from the same album lately I just locate it in the main Library directory by listing by artist, then toggle off shuffle.

WOO ROCKET SCIENCE

Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:58 (eighteen years ago) link

indie. dance. chill. eyeball-bleeding followed by a degustatory self-immolation

is that last one the genre for james blunt?

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:59 (eighteen years ago) link

"i created one playlist in iTunes called Favourites"

you could do a smart playlist version of this using "any of" play "count > x" and "comments contains 'fave'" then you can put in that keyword in the comments to nudge it into the playlist if it's play count ain't high enough

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 18:05 (eighteen years ago) link

hm, i never use comments

R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 18:05 (eighteen years ago) link

i could but i are moran who didn't really understand what you just said. (xpost)

Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 18:06 (eighteen years ago) link

wow smart playlists sound fun - i'm going to make a reverse fav i think that will force me to listen to every song at least once.

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 18:06 (eighteen years ago) link

altho i am starting to, but it doesn't seem worth it!

Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 18:07 (eighteen years ago) link

or use star ratings and make a smart playlist that only includes stuff rated 3-4 stars or whatevs

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 18:08 (eighteen years ago) link

if you just listen to a "most played" smart playlist all the time you will enter a logic loop from which you may never escape.

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 18:09 (eighteen years ago) link

another iTunes metadata tip: "part of a compilation" means that the tracks are by different artists. no point using it for "best of"s of a single artist. (none that i can see)

now star ratings is something i never got into for some reason.

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 18:11 (eighteen years ago) link

most played + not in last 2 weeks,months,etc

R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 18:13 (eighteen years ago) link

giving star ratings seem a bit too gung ho

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 18:14 (eighteen years ago) link

star ratings are good coz you can modify them on yr. ipod. so they're the only handy way for me to keep track of what i want to move up to my faves and what i want to kick off my ipod to make room for other stuff. also smart playlists on your ipod STAY smart -- i.e. if i add a rating to a song on "not rated" it falls off the playlist on my ipod.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 18:15 (eighteen years ago) link

tho star ratings would def be the right way to make a "fave" smart list.

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 18:15 (eighteen years ago) link

"star ratings are good coz you can modify them on yr. ipod"

i thought that might be it - my library is on my mac and i manually admin my mini, so i don't think i get the advantage of star rating /syncing or whatevah proper ipod stuff gives you.

no, manual admin'ing is not tedious. not with "recently added" smart lists. so ner.

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 18:17 (eighteen years ago) link

trü

R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 18:18 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah sterling otm

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 18:18 (eighteen years ago) link

star ratings should be replaced with a percentage value/scale of 100.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 18:21 (eighteen years ago) link

here's some fresh madness -- http://www.smartplaylists.com/

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 18:23 (eighteen years ago) link

god i love my folder structures 2 death.

so the ipod plugin for winamp is flawless then? the idea of itunes ws really putting me off getting one

rtcotm (mwah), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 18:35 (eighteen years ago) link

mwah, share your technique!!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 18:51 (eighteen years ago) link

I am kind of shocked that ken c doesn't already use smart playlists.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 18:55 (eighteen years ago) link

I am very shocked as well.

R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 18:56 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm completely fucking furious.

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 18:56 (eighteen years ago) link


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