shrink-to-fit, ding dongs
― Fox Force Five Punchline (sexyDancer), Tuesday, August 11, 2009 3:24 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
reminds me of
i have a philosophy degree buttasses
― bato (bato), Monday, November 6, 2006 12:16 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― in excelsis ayo (roxymuzak), Friday, 14 August 2009 20:59 (fourteen years ago) link
lol
― free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Friday, 14 August 2009 21:02 (fourteen years ago) link
http://waffleshop.org/
this is an example of "social practices" art ... the phrase that keeps coming to mind is "banal positivism"
― free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Monday, 17 August 2009 20:36 (fourteen years ago) link
Taylor Swift's suckiness has nothing to do with her alleged (and demonstrably false) "tunelessness" and everything to do with her not being a very good singer and being a glamorized version of the young white female ideal singing about how she's an ugly duckling who can't get the guy.
― nate dogg is a feeling (HI DERE)
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Monday, 17 August 2009 20:38 (fourteen years ago) link
does she look like a duck?
― free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Monday, 17 August 2009 20:41 (fourteen years ago) link
she is cute as a button
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Monday, 17 August 2009 20:42 (fourteen years ago) link
http://qing95.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/taylor-swift-71.jpg
I just remember growing up listening to Top 40 radio (until about age 12 when there was an "alternative" station), and being annoyed at all the "love you baby ooh" songs. It was a serious epiphany when I discovered that plenty of people wrote rock/pop songs about other things.
― free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Monday, 17 August 2009 20:45 (fourteen years ago) link
think that love you baby ooh songs are no better or worse than non love you baby ooh songs by definition
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Monday, 17 August 2009 20:47 (fourteen years ago) link
I think I also have issues with "baby" as a term of endearment.
― free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Monday, 17 August 2009 20:48 (fourteen years ago) link
semiotically speaking?
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Monday, 17 August 2009 20:49 (fourteen years ago) link
yes! There's a song by The Pop Group, that I thought the lyrics were "Don't call me baby" (I think it's actually "don't call me pain") ...
― free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Monday, 17 August 2009 20:51 (fourteen years ago) link
Hahaha! I've recently asked a few female friends of mine whether this bothers them and it doesn't for the most part. I think it should.
― cockles (country matters), Monday, 17 August 2009 20:52 (fourteen years ago) link
Love crops up quite a lot as something to sing about,cos most groups make most of their songs about falling in loveor how happy they are to be in love,you occasionally wonder why these groups do sing about it all the time -it's because these groups think there's something very special about iteither that or else it's because everybody else sings about it and always has,you know to burst into song you have to be inspiredand nothing inspires quite like love.These groups and singers think that they appeal to everyoneby singing about love because apparently everyone has or can loveor so they would have you believe anywaybut these groups seem to go along with what, the beliefthat love is deep in everyone's personality.I don't think we're saying there's anything wrong with love,we just don't think that what goes on between two peopleshould be shrouded with mystery.
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Monday, 17 August 2009 20:55 (fourteen years ago) link
xp -I don't hate all songs that use "baby" as a term of endearment, but if a romantic partner were to call me that, I'd have problems with that.
The Pop Group song is still a really good song.
― free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Monday, 17 August 2009 20:57 (fourteen years ago) link
i like when songs use "sugar"
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Monday, 17 August 2009 21:00 (fourteen years ago) link
I support "sugar"
― free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Monday, 17 August 2009 21:01 (fourteen years ago) link
"light of my life"
― cockles (country matters), Monday, 17 August 2009 21:04 (fourteen years ago) link
I dated a guy that referred to me as "she who must be obeyed" ... it wasn't as annoying as some of his other traits.
― free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Monday, 17 August 2009 21:05 (fourteen years ago) link
do you still have his number?
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Monday, 17 August 2009 21:07 (fourteen years ago) link
this was a guy that recently went to therapy for "internet addiction" ... he also suffered from "executive function disorder" (this is not the boarding school guy from the other thread) ... at one point I figured I would end up marrying him.
― free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Monday, 17 August 2009 21:09 (fourteen years ago) link
"cui parendum est"
― cockles (country matters), Monday, 17 August 2009 21:10 (fourteen years ago) link
if he had manifested all his endearments in Latin he would have been a right old catch imo
― cockles (country matters), Monday, 17 August 2009 21:11 (fourteen years ago) link
I went to a crappy American public high school ... I have no idea what that means, except for est = some version of the verb "to be" because that's what it is in French.
― free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Monday, 17 August 2009 21:12 (fourteen years ago) link
xp he liked croquet ... I was down with some of the fey anglophilia, but croquet ... too much.
― free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Monday, 17 August 2009 21:14 (fourteen years ago) link
It means "she (or he) who must be obeyed", weirdly enough. Literally, "for whom it is obligated to obey". Croquet is really good fun but I can go months, even years, without playing it. It's actually quite big in some American circles.
― cockles (country matters), Monday, 17 August 2009 21:17 (fourteen years ago) link
it just bugged me in the same way white hipster guys' excessive appropriation of black street slang annoys me.
― free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Monday, 17 August 2009 21:19 (fourteen years ago) link
yo, feelin u freals
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Monday, 17 August 2009 21:21 (fourteen years ago) link
lol - it isn't like any cultural appropriation bothers me, there's just this invisible line where it becomes too much ...
― free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Monday, 17 August 2009 21:23 (fourteen years ago) link
i dunno, i tend to slip into neurotic jewish best friend type (weak woody allen really) as the default easily digestible capsule version of myself for parties, and I am very not jewish.
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Monday, 17 August 2009 21:25 (fourteen years ago) link
no offense, but my better half will occasionally do that "tawk amongst yerselves" thing in that accent, and that's the one speech mannerism thing of his that annoys me. I'm still not sure why.
― free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Monday, 17 August 2009 21:31 (fourteen years ago) link
oh, the party thing is one of those things that makes me hate myself a little bit afterwards, but I can usually scrub it off in the shower
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Monday, 17 August 2009 21:34 (fourteen years ago) link
related to annoying use of "baby" in love songs: why so much 2nd person for all time?
― there is no there there (elmo argonaut), Monday, 17 August 2009 21:36 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm trying to think if I have a party persona ... as opposed to me, only louder and more talkative
― free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Monday, 17 August 2009 21:37 (fourteen years ago) link
btw nice use of the gerundive periphrastic there lj
― there is no there there (elmo argonaut), Monday, 17 August 2009 21:39 (fourteen years ago) link
xxp um lol?
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Monday, 17 August 2009 21:39 (fourteen years ago) link
the 2nd person usage is all about identification and such
― free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Monday, 17 August 2009 21:40 (fourteen years ago) link
aw elmo 'twas nothing *blushes*
― cockles (country matters), Monday, 17 August 2009 21:40 (fourteen years ago) link
back to the waffl3 sh0p thing:"Waffle Shop is an experimental platform for media production and public dialogue that combines a restaurant with the production of a talk show directly on the premises.
At Waffle Shop, our customers are also our stars, as we film each night, inviting interested patrons to express their unique opinions and personalities. These recordings are streamed live through this very website during our open hours, and then produced into episodes which are broadcast publicly 24 hours a day in the windows of the storefront, and made available through our online archive.
Upcoming plans include: a changeable analog phrase system designed for the vacant billboard space above the shop, a live weekend world news show, an independent record label that produces and distributes music recorded live during our nighttime show, and a weekly radio show."
― free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Monday, 17 August 2009 21:50 (fourteen years ago) link
2nd person is problematic, though -- its use often leads to the assumption that the song is romantic in nature, even if the addressee of the song is not a romantic object
― there is no there there (elmo argonaut), Monday, 17 August 2009 21:51 (fourteen years ago) link
do you mean 2nd person in love songs, or 2nd person in general? I mean, there are plenty of songs about "you" that are very obviously not romantic.
― free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Monday, 17 August 2009 21:53 (fourteen years ago) link
Waffle Shop thing sounds like a packaging of what oughtn't be packaged
― cockles (country matters), Monday, 17 August 2009 21:56 (fourteen years ago) link
a former collaborator of mine did something there recently, and I was trying to come up with a way to do something in a talk show format that would be a relatively subtle critique of banal positivism. There's this focus on "service" ... that art has to be a service to its audience, hence the restaurant idea. There was a guy locally that did an ice cream stand as an art project.
― free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Monday, 17 August 2009 22:00 (fourteen years ago) link
It just seems to me like they're trying to package the 'human drama' of an easily-accessible social situation...it's like selling us air, or erecting a viewing stand on a busy high street
― cockles (country matters), Monday, 17 August 2009 22:13 (fourteen years ago) link
definitely ... one of the guys behind it is the dude that did that "Learning to Love You More" project with Miranda July
― free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Monday, 17 August 2009 22:14 (fourteen years ago) link
I know you linked that earlier...but what was that again? A crash-course in endearments which would supposedly strengthen love's bonds with their proscribed multiplicity?
― cockles (country matters), Monday, 17 August 2009 22:16 (fourteen years ago) link
no, I didn't ... it was a web project and then became a book
http://www.learningtoloveyoumore.com/
― free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Monday, 17 August 2009 22:18 (fourteen years ago) link
the prescriptive nature of these assignments is intended to guide people towards their own experience.
urrrrrrgh this is still patently about the collectivism of experience
― cockles (country matters), Monday, 17 August 2009 22:21 (fourteen years ago) link
besides the fact that it is implying what one's experience should be like.
― free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Monday, 17 August 2009 22:23 (fourteen years ago) link
"baby" is favored in music for its simple, melodic capabilities. Nice alliteration and two different vowels that can stretch on forever. Ref: Everly Bros
― Fox Force Five Punchline (sexyDancer), Monday, 17 August 2009 22:23 (fourteen years ago) link