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itunes does use a lot more memory, it uses about 100mb on my machine and i've only got 512 to start with

this is jobs' way of making me buy more ram isn't it? Cunty McCunt

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 07:50 (seventeen years ago) link

*is smug*

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 08:55 (seventeen years ago) link

It takes ages to analyse for gapless playback here. That's sending memory high and speed slow. They dropped the sliding doors aperture too, dammit

― stet (stet), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 10:27 (seventeen years ago) link

i tried that cog thing but as soon as i tried to get it to recognise the mp3 collection i have it saw the sheer enormous size and spazzed out

incidentally that's the same reaction women have to my willy

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 11:19 (seventeen years ago) link

sliding doors aperture?

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 11:28 (seventeen years ago) link

dudes what kinda crazy smart playlists youre making?

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 11:47 (seventeen years ago) link

sterling, the browse button is now at the bottom right of the itunes interface next to the eject button.

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 11:49 (seventeen years ago) link

My have one big smart playist for things that go onto my iPod and its easier to exclude artists and genres in a smart playlist. i have to fit 50GB into 30GB so that's a lot of winnowing.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 11:51 (seventeen years ago) link

that sounds pretty crazy.

it looks like the new ipod firmware gives you everything the new ipods have except search, and people seem to expect that soon. on the other hand there seem to be some bugs with podcasts, so i'm holding off updating for now. i quite like the new ipod summary in itunes 7, although it's not really very useful.

― toby (tsg20), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 12:04 (seventeen years ago) link

oops the sliding doors aperture thingy on the burn button, I mean.

― stet (stet), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 12:12 (seventeen years ago) link

What apple ought to do w/iTunes is set a tag definable at the beginning of a ripping/uploading/dragging-and-dropping session (and defaults to null again once iTunes is closed) that remembers the name of the person doing it. Then Smart Playlists for multiple users' iPods would be EASY PEASY.

― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 12:29 (seventeen years ago) link

you guys should just drag stuff into yr ipods srsly

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 12:32 (seventeen years ago) link

that is somewhat tedious

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 12:35 (seventeen years ago) link

naw it's fun

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 12:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Can't you just use one of the star ratings for stuff you want on the ipod, ed? Mark them all one star or similar. Or tag them.

― stet (stet), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 12:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Then I'd have to tag things and change the tags every time I wanted to change the contents of the iPod, why not use the existing tags and create a ruleset around them?

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 12:53 (seventeen years ago) link

WTF i ran the "get album art" "feature" and it removed ALL OF THE EXISTING ALBUM ART ON MY MAC! for instance my album-art screensaver now tells me "you have no iTunes songs with album art"!!!!

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:06 (seventeen years ago) link

One of the rule sets is longer even than my 23" cinema display at work (is there any way of going into portrait mode?)
-- Ed (dal...) (webmail), September 13th, 2006 4:48 AM. (dali) (later) (link)

Use multiple smart playlists chained together by using membership in some playlists as a criteria for others!

WTF i ran the "get album art" "feature" and it removed ALL OF THE EXISTING ALBUM ART ON MY MAC! for instance my album-art screensaver now tells me "you have no iTunes songs with album art"!!!!

Well, it only did what you told it to do. Maybe you should have created a smart playlist with all itemss missing art in it.

― Really cool, wickedly cool, cooly cool bon apetit! (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I want a fuggin' scroll bar that's all.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:17 (seventeen years ago) link

windows version of new itunes is a dog, if you have a massive 100GB library. unbearably slow and awful, what is it even doing when it's "determining gapless playback"? it's hanging on my talk talk albums for 10 minutes a track.

― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:27 (seventeen years ago) link

haha massive 100GB library noob

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe you should have created a smart playlist with all itemss missing art in it.

you mean like 98% of my mp3s?

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:36 (seventeen years ago) link

that sucks - sure it didn't just move them?

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:37 (seventeen years ago) link

actually, jon, i don't understand why iTunes should remove album art for songs already having it, or why it should not find any album art for any of the other songs? are you saying it's my fault because i wasn't aware that the function was not, uh, functional?

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:37 (seventeen years ago) link

also you have toned down obviously but you are still fucking smug

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Dude, suck it up, gapless shit runs ONCE. Go outside, 100G dude with a Celeron 400.

xpost

Amateurist, if I hand you a full cup of coffee and tell you to get me a fucking coffee, I want a new fucking coffee!!!!!

― Really cool, wickedly cool, cooly cool bon apetit! (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:40 (seventeen years ago) link

yah i tried it (barely had any covers already, didn't notice if they were deleted) and it only found like %5 and froze about 3/4 of the way through.

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:40 (seventeen years ago) link

wizard is hungry for new coffee

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:41 (seventeen years ago) link

new fucking coffee

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe you should buy a Mac.

― Really cool, wickedly cool, cooly cool bon apetit! (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Use multiple smart playlists chained together by using membership in some playlists as a criteria for others!

the way forward! By 2030 all elementary school students will be taught object-oriented filtering skills from the 2nd through 8th grade, when they may switch subjects to "readin' and writin'" or the more intensive "how to not get called a moron by god-emperor Jdubz" classes

― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:48 (seventeen years ago) link

I have an idea, why don't we build software that is intuitive instead of continually asking users to think more like C

― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:49 (seventeen years ago) link

windows, you're our only hope

― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:49 (seventeen years ago) link

how would you make a playlist of mp3's not containing cover art anyway? amst OTM, the fact the app. deleted his existing cover art makes it a shitty function not a stupid user.

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:50 (seventeen years ago) link

the way forward!

It reminds me more of chain based firewalls.

― Really cool, wickedly cool, cooly cool bon apetit! (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Anyway, after stories of iTunes being "too helpful" in organizing people's music, I'd hope that we'd have thought before clicking by now. Hopefully Amateurist has taught us a valuable lesson.

― Really cool, wickedly cool, cooly cool bon apetit! (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Ed, depending on your video card you can rotate the screen in Display preferences.

― stet (stet), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:59 (seventeen years ago) link

everything should be stateful based on user. the mac should identify known users via the built-in camera and relate their actions through a learned matrix of preferences according to facial pattern recognition.

― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:10 (seventeen years ago) link

screw fast user switching, for a stationary desktop or a laptop that spends most of its time on the same table in the same lighting a simple comparison of chin-cheek high points geometry should be able to pick apart most members of a household as soon as they sit down. probably faster than it takes for bluetooth to do the requisite handshaking upon cold boot!

― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:11 (seventeen years ago) link

i let my itunes (on windows) update overnight with album art and gapless shit, and this morning it is running faster than any version i have ever used ever has. this with a 370gig library. i dunno, i'm having a good time with this update, except that i can't figure out how to put MY OWN album art in. it seems like they are welding you solely to the itunes store for this shit now.

― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:14 (seventeen years ago) link

where's the fun in clicking if you have to think first?

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I can still add my own artwork in the new itunes windows version

― treefell (treefell), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:20 (seventeen years ago) link

DG - aha yeah i think Cog is not really designed for you to drag like, your whole music library into. your "library" = the Finder. if you want to play a song, double-click it. or drag it into Cog. or make playlists in Cog. Etc.

Duderz, I have never understood the album art thing. IT'S NOT A CD IT'S AN MP3 FILE. I dunno it's like strapping a saddle to the top of your Ford Mustang - "it's just not the same without the smell of leather!"

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:22 (seventeen years ago) link

i can add artwork in mac version too
xpost

― fellini-esque-lit-rockist (tehresa), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:23 (seventeen years ago) link

ok, annoyance --

Hitting Apple+I to edit multiple properties of a *MOVIE* does not work on multiple selected of movies. (There's a tab that is only visible with a single on selected)

HOW TO TAG ROBOTECHS .MP4

― Really cool, wickedly cool, cooly cool bon apetit! (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:23 (seventeen years ago) link

bah, can rotate on an intel mac mini but not on a mac book pro

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I think my solution is good (for those who are warped enough to need a smart playlist that complex).

Anyway, my solution give you the FULL POWER of boolean expressions instead of being limited to all ORs or all ANDs!

― Really cool, wickedly cool, cooly cool bon apetit! (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:26 (seventeen years ago) link

it would be fun to have the album covers, i was pretty psyched. at this point i have no idea what most of my album's covers look like. i hope they make it work (or maybe someone could step in w/a allmusic script or something).

xpost

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:27 (seventeen years ago) link

ok smartyhungrypants - can you bulid me a smart playlist that will contain the songs i've listened to most over, say, the last ix months?

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:29 (seventeen years ago) link

(s)ix

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:29 (seventeen years ago) link

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