A Rockists Guide To Rap

Aboslutely CLASSIC (intentional) misspellings.

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This is an insightful comment, the type I was hoping to get more of within this thread. I think Rock was on life support in the mid 80s. In the early 80s, hardcore had kicked some life into it, but hardcore became pretty shitty pretty quickly. There were remnants of it left over in the emerging underground Indie scene of the mid 80s. But its my opinion that this underground Indie is really what saved Rock. Rap/hip hop was just the latest incarnation of mainstream Pop that had been happening since al jolsen sang mammy. The impact that Rap had on Rock that I find important is its experimentation in production and found sound, etc that has been subtley adapted by modern day rock makers...

-- PappaWheelie puts out again and gives up again and puts out again and gives (evieandjo...), September 28th, 2006. (later)

hongro? wagemann?

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Oh man I just realized, you ARE right, Pop Will Eat Itself definately saved rock-n-roll!

Alas. I was distracted.

"Rock" rolls off the tongue and invites other words, thus innovation.

"Rap" rhymes with "Tap", indicating an emphasis on "beats".

But aren't beats infinitely more ephemeral than ROCK? A beat dissipates; a rock sustains.

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IT'S A TIE!

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David St. Hubbins: IST!

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not that I wqnt to give an iota of credence to his "argument"

this is too pitiful to be a joke. i think this guy really just glosses over all this hatred and is gonna do what he came to do. wow.

seems that he's far far from understanding how very basic types of interaction should work. the way he views his blog is like a person who getting an email address and just repeatedly checking, seeing they have no mail, thinking it's curious, but not wondering why that might be.

like he's heard the term 'blog', seen that there are people who have high-profile ones, and just naturally assumes that he is in the same level in that particular forum, regardless of the fact that there's no screening, they are free, anyone can get one, etc. etc. like he earnestly believes that people will want to hear his fucking opinions, but puts no thought into the practicality of that, and ignores all observations to the contrary. it's mind boggling, i can't figure this out!

Maybe the last level.

Take a bath, hippie.

rock is way more dead than rap, duder.

Amigo, if you think Rock is dead, then you really are out of touch...but then again most people are...except me ofcourse. I'm only slightly out of touch, but I'm aware enough to know that there is just as mcuch great Rock being made today as there was 40 years ago. The only difference is that society has changed, and that the best Rock being made today isnt generally heard on the radio...
Rock may not have the social impact it did in the 60s, but sonically you cans still find plenty of quality...

I guess you discovered this during the same extensive research that led you to conclude that white people like the Beastie Boys, huh?

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> Some of the best music of all time is boring.

i mean, most of us have started dumm threads before, had some ill-conceived idea formulated in a moment of frustration that we've senselessly defended for awhile until coming around, but pew doesn't appear to have any particular points to defend, dumm or otherwise

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rap is here to stay. Actually its already dead and gone

Pee Pee PEW has seriously earned his stripes as the most clueless ilxor to gain everybody's attention. More than jagger, squirrel, and maybe even the great hongro himself (well, hongro's got plenty of seniroty; enough to have people come to love him for what he is. This thread proves PEW to be beyond that).

I've been working on a project to combine these forces into a dream team. So far I got squirrel under PEW's spell, and we've seen some PEW/Hongro action brewing here. I'm sure they'll both claim to be too rogue for one another, but just give me some time on the greatest project of doom the internets has ever seen.

I was waiting for someone to say this.

I keep trying to ignore these threads but can't stop myself from clicking... the mindboggling stupidity is quite compelling.

xpost awh I miss piggy

I made the marchant/wagamuffin comparison on another thread too

to be fair, these other three all have their idiosyncrasies but none of 'em are really trolls like this uh, horse's patootie (why is he so in love with that word...? very weird). Geir SP and Jagger are at least genuinely interested in dialogue and ideas and stuff.

How is this possible?

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(x-post, you obv haven't rammed horns with the great wagamuffin enough to witness his patterns yet)

Can someone explain to the Cat who I'm quoting above, how the enlgish language is an evolving entity...and I dont like the way the word 'Rock' has been hi-jacked by the Popcicle Popologists and used an and ISM. Am I the only one outraged that these Pop fairy's are besmirching our sacred Rock? Rock once stood for something dammit! It was more than music it was both the manifestation and the motivation of an ethos. A honest, working-class, lets get stoned on our lunch break and get shit-faced and chase titties in our Camero on weekends ETHIC!
Well, sure those times are gone. But at its best Rock was universal. It touched something inside of people, and it still does today--and I have set out to reclaim all that is good about Rock and turn the derogatory term 'rockism' back onto these popist snobs (like the blacks turned the degoratory term niggger around, like 'punks' turned the term punk around and like faggots...well, faggots never quite succeeded, but dag gummit at least they tried!!!)
So can somebody please explain that to this guy I quoted. Explain to them that ole Wagemann here isnt a mindless automaton who goes along with wahtever the popular trends and political correctness police tell him he's supposed to go along with. Old Wagemann is inspired by Richard Pryor (who comes from peoria, just across the river from my hometown) and plays by his own rules, speaks his own language, and who, sure, will have sex with a heavy set woman every so often--is that so wrong?

Long Live Rock!
God Bless America!
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