When I read that Alito was focused on unborn child language am I to assume he was making guttural noises in addition to some combination of moaning and gargling?
― henry s, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 18:40 (one week ago) link
He's the angriest one on the court. The state of Idaho Is arguing for the right of prosecutors (or fearful doctors) to deny patients emergency abortion care, even if it means that they could die, and Alito wants that
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 25 April 2024 13:35 (one week ago) link
But today is the long delayed immunity case that could have been dismissed or held awhile ago, and which needs to have a decision issued quickly, so trials can proceed before the election. But Supreme Court, which has in the past, heard and issued decisions quickly, isn't interested here
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 25 April 2024 13:38 (one week ago) link
is there any chance they actually rule that the President is allowed to commit unlimited crime?
― frogbs, Thursday, 25 April 2024 13:43 (one week ago) link
Probably frantically pressuring clerks to help them figure out how to make sure it only applies to Republic presidents moving forward.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 25 April 2024 13:50 (one week ago) link
I'm sure they can come up with some loophole to help him
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 25 April 2024 13:55 (one week ago) link
when you're famous they let you do it
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 25 April 2024 14:08 (one week ago) link
jfc listing to the trump lawyer speak is painful
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 25 April 2024 14:19 (one week ago) link
listening*
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 25 April 2024 14:20 (one week ago) link
hmmm doesn't seem like the SC is buying this
― frogbs, Thursday, 25 April 2024 14:30 (one week ago) link
poor fella. don't they owe him? he seated a third of them, got abortion outlawed in the confederacy :(
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 25 April 2024 14:35 (one week ago) link
jesus listening to this trump asshole is really friggin' hard. it sounds like two pieces of sandpaper fucking.
― scott seward, Thursday, 25 April 2024 14:41 (one week ago) link
Biden eagerly awaiting the go-ahead to order Trump's assassination
― Pierre Delecto, Thursday, 25 April 2024 14:46 (one week ago) link
so it doesn't look like this is gonna go Trump's way but I wonder when they're actually gonna issue the ruling, like is this something where they aren't gonna explicitly say Trump is above the law but will help him out by taking 3 months to decide
― frogbs, Thursday, 25 April 2024 14:49 (one week ago) link
but how are they going to get the Biden crime family if they absolve Trump? This isn't an easy decision
― StanM, Thursday, 25 April 2024 14:55 (one week ago) link
I started listening during Gorsuch's turn. Jackson's kicking his ass now.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 April 2024 14:55 (one week ago) link
Biden should just whack Trump now, he's 81, if he doesn't get immunity he'll be dead before he reaches prison anyway
― Big Bong Theory (stevie), Thursday, 25 April 2024 14:59 (one week ago) link
DO IT AND BE LEGENDS
Thomas needs to go back to sleep
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 25 April 2024 15:03 (one week ago) link
Massive lol. And not only is his laryngitis (or whatever it is) painful it seems that he thinks the faster he speaks the smarter he is.
― Requiem for a Dream: The Musical! (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 25 April 2024 15:05 (one week ago) link
This fucking guy, with his wife promoting sedition.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 April 2024 15:05 (one week ago) link
I had to walk back into my office when I thought I heard Thomas cite Operation Mongoose.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 April 2024 15:07 (one week ago) link
Good morning!
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 25 April 2024 15:10 (one week ago) link
worth mentioning this whole thing is a sham the only point was to get them to take up the argument in the first place so they could delay the trial
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-celebrating-supreme-court-immunity-heist-1235009838/
― frogbs, Thursday, 25 April 2024 15:11 (one week ago) link
I mean its pretty wild that their entire strategy is just a very out in the open "delay until after the election and have Trump kill off the cases once he wins" and there's nothing our justice system can do about it
― frogbs, Thursday, 25 April 2024 15:14 (one week ago) link
there's plenty they can do, they just don't want to
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 25 April 2024 15:28 (one week ago) link
Ten minutes ago Alito, eyes practically welling up with tears, wondered if we undermine a "stable democracy" if we didn't allow presidents to leave office in peace.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 April 2024 15:54 (one week ago) link
Then he broke into "One Last Time"
― Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Thursday, 25 April 2024 15:58 (one week ago) link
Michael R. Dreeben will fuck you up. That's all i know. He knows his stuff.
― scott seward, Thursday, 25 April 2024 16:19 (one week ago) link
how many of the pending trial are waiting on this ruling? does it affect the classified docs trial at all?
― frogbs, Thursday, 25 April 2024 16:44 (one week ago) link
― Are you addicted to struggling with your horse? (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 25 April 2024 16:46 (one week ago) link
Thomas says presidents in the past have participated in coups, "yet there have been no prosecutions"??Is this motherfucker serious? His argument is "Every president coups, why is mine getting charged?"— Elie Mystal (@ElieNYC) April 25, 2024
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 April 2024 16:49 (one week ago) link
the fact that Thomas is even allowed to rule on this is insane
still can't imagine it goes Trump's way, the question is will they turn around a ruling quickly (like they did with Bush vs. Gore) or will they drag their feet until July and give Trump what he wants
― frogbs, Thursday, 25 April 2024 16:53 (one week ago) link
in the end what really is the difference between Iran and the United States
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 25 April 2024 16:53 (one week ago) link
All the conservative justices: Let's not look at the facts in this case, let's look at instead my hypothetical questions based on my viewing of Fox Cable news, or lets look at this historical thing I remember, Operation Mongoose, or the pardoning of Nixon
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 25 April 2024 16:53 (one week ago) link
The case is submitted. Court doesn't come back till May 9th which will be a decision day.But I think they won't decide *this* case until July 3rd for max delay. And that decision will be 5-4 to remand the case back to DC, for additional delay.— Elie Mystal (@ElieNYC) April 25, 2024
― Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Thursday, 25 April 2024 16:55 (one week ago) link
I got up to use the bathroom and literally turned around and returned to my office when I heard Thomas mention Operation Mongoose.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 April 2024 16:59 (one week ago) link
I admit I had to google that President Kennedy item
The (male) conservative justices lined up to declare that the REAL threat to democracy wasn't Trump's attempt to steal the 2020 election, but the Justice Department's effort to hold him accountable. They were almost entirely worried about the prosecution, not the alleged crime.
Mark Joseph Stern of Slate
https://x.com/mjs_DC/status/1783539335662276627
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 25 April 2024 17:02 (one week ago) link
The conservative justices mostly avoided specifically defending Trump's acts as official acts of the president worth giving immunity to, they just slickly alluded to theoretical examples and their own takes on a few historical examples, so that they can remand the case back under a new definition of immunity that they will create
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 25 April 2024 17:07 (one week ago) link
Sotomayor stuck it to Alito.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 April 2024 17:09 (one week ago) link
Elie Mystal, Justice correspondent for the Nation noting that Kavanaugh who was complaining at the hearing today regarding how independent counsel under old rules went too far in making life difficult for presidents, was himself an employee once under Kenneth Starr who went too far.
Seeing some elsewhere say that the Justice Department lawyer could have done better in countering the conservative justices on their arguments and conclusions but not sure about that myself
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 25 April 2024 17:21 (one week ago) link
Elie Mystal's prediction feels like it's otm x 10.
Any ruling for total Presidential immunity would forever mark this court as having flushed the republic down the toilet, but allowing Trump's trial to go forward, especially during this election year, will invite the wrath of a million fanatics, constantly inflamed and incited by Trump. The conservative majority will duck and cover like a classroom running a nuclear drill in 1955. They'll settle for maximum delay and hope for the best.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 25 April 2024 17:22 (one week ago) link
― curmudgeon, Thursday, April 25, 2024
Nah, he did an admirable job, knew his shit, swatted the more ridiculous arguments aside. But Alito and Kavanaugh were relentless.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 April 2024 17:25 (one week ago) link
"Everything's coming up Milhouse Orange Dipshit"
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 25 April 2024 17:27 (one week ago) link
another clarence thomas classic pic.twitter.com/lD9zZZq2AS— jor (@jorfolle) April 25, 2024
― Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Thursday, 25 April 2024 17:35 (one week ago) link
One of the NPR analysts made the point that the conservative part of the SCOTUS bench is full of people who worked in the DOJ for Republican presidents and whose whole conception of the presidency is that it is constantly under deeply unfair and immoral political attack. So of course they view this whole case through that lens.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 25 April 2024 19:16 (one week ago) link
Yep. And they won’t consider or acknowledge or argue with an opposing view , just double down on their own defensive take.
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 25 April 2024 19:49 (one week ago) link
Let’s fuckin goooooooooooo
Sotomayor: If the president decides that his rival is a corrupt person and he orders the military to assasinate him, is that within his official acts to which he has immunity?"That could well be an official act," Trump lawyer John Sauer says— Igor Bobic (@igorbobic) April 25, 2024
― papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 25 April 2024 20:04 (one week ago) link
“That could well be an official act, but only if Trump does it,” Sauer clarified.
― Requiem for a Dream: The Musical! (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 25 April 2024 20:13 (one week ago) link
how officers of the court of any kind refrain from yelling WE SEE EXACTLY WHAT YOU’RE DOING is surprising to me but welp
― schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Thursday, 25 April 2024 20:19 (one week ago) link