7. The Art of Self Destruction, Part OneReleased on Further Down The Spiral, 1995"Mr. Self Destruct" remixed by Nine Inch Nails (Chris Vrenna, Robin Finck, Danny Lohner, Charlie Clouser, Trent Reznor) with Sean Beavan & Brian Pollack42 points, 3 voters, 1 #1 voteRecording
― ufo, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 23:01 (three weeks ago) link
6. Ruiner (Version)Released on Further Down The Spiral international edition, 1995"Ruiner" remixed by Charlie Clouser46 points, 3 voters, 1 #1 voteRecording
― ufo, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 23:10 (three weeks ago) link
bangerrrrrr
― ivy., Tuesday, 23 April 2024 23:25 (three weeks ago) link
5. David Bowie - I'm Afraid of Americans (Nine Inch Nails V1 Mix)Released on "I'm Afraid of Americans" single, 1997David Bowie's "I'm Afraid of Americans" remixed by Nine Inch Nails48 points, 3 votersRecording
― ufo, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 23:40 (three weeks ago) link
I love the versions of "Heresy" and "Ruiner" from the international edition of FDTS (which, being in Australia, was the version I bought aged 13 or 14).
In their combination of layering and populism they feel beamed in from an alternate world where industrial dance-pop became a big thing, Ruby's "Tiny Meat" was number one on the charts for five weeks, etc.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 23:46 (three weeks ago) link
4. At the Heart of It AllReleased on Further Down The Spiral, 1995Created by Aphex Twin54 points, 4 votersRecording
― ufo, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 23:51 (three weeks ago) link
3. The Hand That Feeds (DFA Mix)Released on "The Hand That Feeds" single, 2005"The Hand That Feeds" remixed by The DFA64 points, 5 votersRecording
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 00:01 (three weeks ago) link
"At The Heart of it All" was my first time hearing Aphex Twin, and I remember thinking "I've never heard anything like this".
I went out and bought "I Care Because You Do" pretty much straightaway afterwards, and I remember liking it a lot but also being vaguely disappointed that it lacked the elegiac seriousness of "At The Heart of it All" - that combination of clanking mid-90s sound design with the solemnity of the first two Aphex Twin albums feels like a vibe RDJ rarely grappled with.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 00:21 (three weeks ago) link
2. Closer to GodReleased on "Closer to God" single, 1994"Closer" remixed by Trent Reznor, Sean Beavan and Brian Pollack68 points, 4 voters, 1 #1 voteRecording
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 00:41 (three weeks ago) link
I enjoy both "All The Pigs Lined Up" and "Closer To God" a lot but, they also really underline the wisdom of Trent's decision-making re the versions of those songs that made it into the album - especially the decision to record "March of the Pigs" in 7/8 rather than 4/4.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 00:50 (three weeks ago) link
it's crazy when you listen to all those versions of Closer, how much is actually packed into that song. it's true of the whole album, which at the time was a marvel of layers and sound engineering; but Closer is especially loaded with what i can only describe as really cool sounding shit.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 01:32 (three weeks ago) link
"At The Heart of it All" was my first time hearing Aphex Twin, and I remember thinking "I've never heard anything like this".I went out and bought "I Care Because You Do" pretty much straightaway afterwards
i literally did the exact same thing!!! except in my case i really dug a lot of what i heard on ICBYD and was an instant fan.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 01:34 (three weeks ago) link
"At The Heart of it All" is what got me into Aphex Twin too. I didn't vote for it, would have felt weird as I don't consider it a nine inch nails track. I'd probably vote for it in an Aphex Twin poll though.
― silverfish, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 01:52 (three weeks ago) link
Has there never been one?
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 02:00 (three weeks ago) link
i got distracted by work, sorry
1. In This Twilight (fennesz)Released on Y34RZ3R0R3M1X3D, 2007"In This Twilight" remixed by Fennesz92 points, 6 voters, 2 #1 votesRecording
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 02:08 (three weeks ago) link
1. In This Twilight (fennesz) - 92 points, 6 voters, 2 #1 votes2. Closer to God - 68 points, 4 voters, 1 #1 vote3. The Hand That Feeds (DFA Mix) - 64 points, 5 voters4. At the Heart of It All - 54 points, 4 voters5. David Bowie - I'm Afraid of Americans (Nine Inch Nails V1 Mix) - 48 points, 3 voters6. Ruiner (Version) - 46 points, 3 voters, 1 #1 vote7. The Art of Self Destruction, Part One - 42 points, 3 voters, 1 #1 vote8. Gave Up (Remix) - 40 points, 3 voters, 1 #1 vote9. Find My Way (Oneohtrix Point Never Remix) - 38 points, 4 voters10. The Downward Spiral (The Bottom) - 36 points, 3 voters11. Heresy (Version) - 32 points, 2 voters11. Only (Richard X Mix) - 32 points, 3 voters13. Self Destruction, Final - 30 points, 2 voters, 1 #1 vote13. All The Pigs, All Lined Up - 30 points, 2 voters15. Eraser (Denial; Realization) - 28 points, 3 voters15. David Bowie - The Hearts Filthy Lesson (Trent Reznor Alternative Mix) - 28 points, 2 voters, 1 #1 vote15. Piggy (Nothing Can Stop Me Now) - 28 points, 2 voters15. David Bowie - I Can't Give Everything Away (Farewell Mix) - 28 points, 2 voters, 1 #1 vote19. The Beauty of Being Numb - 24 points, 3 voters20. Closer (Further Away) - 20 points, 1 voter, 1 #1 vote20. Capital G (Paul Epworth Phones 666 Revolutions Mix) - 20 points, 1 voter, 1 #1 vote20. Me, I'm Not (Olof Dreijer) - 20 points, 1 voter, 1 #1 vote20. Closer (Precursor) - 20 points, 4 voters20. Slipping Away - 20 points, 3 voters25. The Hand That Feeds (Photek Straight Mix) - 18 points, 1 voter25. Hurt (Quiet) - 18 points, 1 voter25. The Perfect Drug (Spacetime Continuum) - 16 points, 1 voter25. Happiness In Slavery (Fixed) - 16 points, 2 voters25. The Great Destroyer (modwheelmood) - 16 points, 1 voter25. The Beginning of the End (Ladytron) - 16 points, 2 voters31. Another Version of the Truth (Kronos and Enrique Gonzales Muller) - 14 points, 1 voter31. Erased, Over, Out - 14 points, 2 voters31. Self Destruction, Part Two - 14 points, 1 voter34. Every Day Is Exactly The Same (Sam Fog vs. Carlos D Mix) - 12 points, 1 voter34. The Perfect Drug (Nine Inch Nails) - 12 points, 1 voter36. Eraser (Polite) - 10 points, 1 voter37. The Day the World Went Away (Porter Ricks Mix) - 8 points, 1 voter38. Gunshots by Computer (Saul Williams) - 6 points, 1 voter38. Sin (Dub) - 6 points, 1 voter40. Underneath The Skin - 4 points, 1 voter40. Heresy (Blind) - 4 points, 1 voter40. Where is Everybody? (Remix) - 4 points, 1 voter40. Neil Ciceriega - Rollercloser - 4 points, 1 voter40. Copy of A (Simian Mobile Disco Remix) - 4 points, 1 voter45. Curve - Missing Link (Nine Inch Nails Screaming Bird Mix) - 2 points, 1 voter45. While I'm Still Here (Breyer P-Orridge 'Howler' Remix) - 2 points, 1 voter
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 02:21 (three weeks ago) link
i literally did the exact same thing!!! except in my case i really dug a lot of what i heard on ICBYD and was an instant fan.― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, April 24, 2024 1:34 AM (fifty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, April 24, 2024 1:34 AM (fifty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Oh yeah, me too - it's more that I had to adjust my expectations a bit.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 02:28 (three weeks ago) link
Is this only going to roll out at nighttime BST hours? Would be nice to participate a bit in real time but no worries if work/life prevents that.
8. Gave Up (Remix)
My #1, maybe my first encounter with vocals cut up like that, still something I deeply love.
I threw aphex a point or two, yeah maybe it's not really a nin track but it does sound quite a bit like the steam engine in 'something i can never have', and it is great.
― ledge, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 08:00 (three weeks ago) link
i'm going to do some of the rollout at night my time which should suit europeans better
i'll probably start albums soon
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 09:51 (three weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/H1aYQ4o.jpeg13. Year ZeroHalo 24, released 200752 points, 6 voters
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 11:44 (three weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/y2GhI8P.jpeg12. Not the Actual EventsHalo 29, released 201656 points, 7 voters
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 11:55 (three weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/saCDXPd.jpeg11. FixedHalo 6, released 199258 points, 5 voters, 2 #1 votes
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 12:10 (three weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/uXUhUh4.jpeg10. Add ViolenceHalo 31, released 201772 points, 7 voters
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 12:25 (three weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/i2n2Vdi.jpeg9. Bad WitchHalo 32, released 20186 points, 8 voters
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 12:38 (three weeks ago) link
bad witch is pretty great the whole way through, my main issue with it is i want more of it
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 12:41 (three weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/tzERRnT.jpeg8. StillHalo 17 CD2, released 200292 points, 8 voters
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 13:00 (three weeks ago) link
not that i have anything against it, but genuinely surprised someone had fixed at #1!
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 13:11 (three weeks ago) link
it was me, and one other person who outed themselves in the voting thread
― ivy., Wednesday, 24 April 2024 13:17 (three weeks ago) link
I didn't know "still" existed. Listening right now for the first time.
― silverfish, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 13:22 (three weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/o2S61vF.jpeg7. With TeethHalo 19, released 200596 points, 12 voters
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 13:24 (three weeks ago) link
oh whoops bad witch had 76 points
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 13:31 (three weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/si2pYZB.jpeg6. Further Down the SpiralHalo 10, released 199598 points, 9 voters, 2 #1 votes
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 13:35 (three weeks ago) link
i remember being let down by with teeth at the time. but in doing the poll i realize what a great album it really is. not sure why i was so dismissive of it at the time - probably more about where i was personally then and TDS and Fragile putting the bar so high. i also hated and still don't care for the title track. but i owe you an apology, with teeth, you're a good album.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 13:39 (three weeks ago) link
Despite my best efforts at cramming over the last few weeks I don't really have a handle on year zero or with teeth and they kind of lump together in my mind. probably heresy to fans or detractors of one or the other.I had both versions of ftds, I was never crazy about all those endless different coil remixes so much preferred the UK version with the charlie clouser remixes.
― ledge, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 13:45 (three weeks ago) link
not having Clouser remix Closer was a missed opportunity.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 13:51 (three weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/GkCgj34.jpeg5. Hesitation MarksHalo 28, released 2013148 points, 13 voters
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 14:01 (three weeks ago) link
Pleased to see Hesitation Marks land so high
― Tim F, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 14:11 (three weeks ago) link
ivy street teaming paid off.
― ledge, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 14:15 (three weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/9zD30BC.jpeg4. BrokenHalo 5, released 1992196 points, 15 voters, 1 #1 vote
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 14:31 (three weeks ago) link
my main takeaway from this has been that people didn't listen to the 2016-18 ep trilogy enough
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 14:32 (three weeks ago) link
His Song Exploder episode was really fucking good, my favourite one, and I was never that much of a fan.
― piscesx, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 14:43 (three weeks ago) link
i dunno. admittedly, nostalgia is a tough thing to overcome; but i gave them every chance - and while i loved Add Violence, i did not dig Bad Which at all. also they're EPs, which - obviously - means there's just less music to them. then there's context - those first 3-4 releases were p unique to what existed at the time and wildly influential.xpost
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 14:44 (three weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/e70QNTR.jpeg3. Pretty Hate MachineHalo 2, released 1989222 points, 17 voters, 1 #1 vote
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 14:59 (three weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/jP9LpD0.jpeg2. The FragileHalo 14, released 1999230 points, 15 voters, 4 #1 votes
https://i.imgur.com/U6t1JZI.jpeg1. The Downward SpiralHalo 8, released 1994306 points, 17 voters, 7 #1 votes
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 15:24 (three weeks ago) link
not really a surprise to have the downward spiral so far ahead of everything else
I’m really happy Further Down The Spiral is getting so much love in this poll
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 15:49 (three weeks ago) link
(I wouldn’t have imagine Fragile at #2 - wow!)
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 15:50 (three weeks ago) link
i didn't expect it either, but the total points was close. the #1 vote difference is what put Fragile ahead.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 15:54 (three weeks ago) link
I guess I can understand being the only #1 for Pretty Hate Machine. It's not without its flaws, but I do think it's the most charming NIN album with the most memorable highs.
― peace, man, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 15:54 (three weeks ago) link
Every time I play PHM I’m somehow surprised anew at how gripping it is.
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 15:56 (three weeks ago) link
“The world is so huge and I am so tiny, what can I do to be remembered or acknowledged?”
Which, heh, TDS did that.
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 18:41 (two weeks ago) link
As a side note, I love 1990s RS NIN cover stories:
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/the-fragile-world-of-trent-reznor-114999/
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/nine-inch-nails-love-it-to-death-2-96265/
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 18:44 (two weeks ago) link
“We try to name all our hard drives something easy to remember,” Reznor explains to computer consultant Charlie Clouser, “like Bum Cleaver, Cunny or Big Hairy Pussy. Sometimes it gets complicated when we don’t remember if the file we’re looking for is Assfuck 25 on the Fuckfuck 12 drive or Fuckfuck 12 on the Assfuck 25 drive. And when we’re talking to each other in the studio, wondering aloud whether running the Cunnykick file through the Fuckchop program on the Asslick disc would help us access the Turbocunt compression . . . it’s really like speaking another language altogether.”To paraphrase the late poet Philip Larkin, hatred is to Nine Inch Nails what daffodils were to Wordsworth.
To paraphrase the late poet Philip Larkin, hatred is to Nine Inch Nails what daffodils were to Wordsworth.
― Drowning in TG, he sent me Discipline (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 18:56 (two weeks ago) link
lmao
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 19:27 (two weeks ago) link
The writer had a lot of fun on that assignment.
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 19:38 (two weeks ago) link
I beat my [Bum Cleaver] machine
― Tim F, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 20:14 (two weeks ago) link
Quake Theme has one of the best screams ever. It's my morning alarm.
― How to Destroy How to Dress Well (lou), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 20:38 (two weeks ago) link
My song ballot:Head Like a Hole Closer Into The Void A Warm Place The Background WorldHeresy All The Love In The World Everything La Mer Sin Burn GiveUp The Sound Of ForgettingThe Hand That FeedsLess Than Nun With a Motherf*&*ing GunDisciplineDead Souls The Wretched Suck Just Like You Imagined Life On Mars?PilgrimageWish Ice AgePiggy Zoo StationCopy Of A Terrible Lie Metal
i might have been the only person to vote for songs off his soundtracks. i had "A Warm Place" pretty high and a tracks like "The Sound Of Forgetting" from Girl With The Dragon Tattoo, for example, aren't far off in terms of vibe. i knew i was likely throwing away my vote, but didn't care - the songs off his soundtracks i like, i *really* like!
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 21:57 (two weeks ago) link
also, whoever else voted for Metal: i love you.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 21:59 (two weeks ago) link
Also I think the only fantasy nine inch nails album I want to compile is Trent Reznor’s Beginner’s Guide to Gay Sex― Tim F, Wednesday, April 17, 2024 3:56 AM (two weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Tim F, Wednesday, April 17, 2024 3:56 AM (two weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink
In other news, here's my ballot:
The BecomingSinJust Like You ImaginedCloser Happiness In SlaveryBeside You In TimeAnd All That Could Have BeenRunning I Do Not Want ThisKinda I Want ToAll Time LowWishThe WretchedEraser Find My WayThe Only TimeZero Sum The Perfect DrugInto The VoidGod Break Down The DoorLastAll The Love in The WorldSuckSatellite March of the PigsWhile I'm Still HereThe Great Destroyer The Background WorldSomewhat DamagedDemon Seed
― Tim F, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 23:00 (two weeks ago) link
my ballots:
Songs
Beside You in TimeLa MerInto the VoidThe WretchedSinRuinerJust Like You ImaginedVarious Methods of EscapeWishAll Time LowAll the Love in the WorldCopy of aThe Great BelowThe BecomingEven DeeperThis Isn't the PlaceSomething I Can Never HaveFind My WayBurning Bright (Field on Fire)The Only TimeThe Great DestroyerOver and OutSunspotsCloserReptileLeaving HopeMarch of the PigsSatelliteA Warm PlaceWhile I'm Still Here
Releases
FixedHesitation MarksThe FragilePretty Hate MachineStillThe Downward SpiralNot the Actual EventsBad WitchFurther Down the SpiralThe Vietnam War
Remixes
Me, I'm Not (Olof Dreijer)The Hand that Feeds (Photek Straight Mix)Ruiner (Version)In This Twilight (Fennesz)The Beginning of the End (Ladytron)Eraser (Denial; Realization)The Day the World Went Away (Porter Ricks Mix)Closer (Precursor)Copy of a (Simian Mobile Disco)Find My Way (Oneohtrix Point Never Remix)
― ivy., Wednesday, 1 May 2024 23:14 (two weeks ago) link
Big laugh on the #1 fake out, top work pollrunners. Closer was my number two, as I'm sure it was for plenty of others.
I pulled together my list last minute, so apologies for Burn and Perfect Drug not being higher. It was almost worth it to be (I think) the only person who voted for a Ghosts track.
Did anyone else vote for Closure or the Broken movie as a release?
― Vernon Locke, Thursday, 2 May 2024 00:58 (two weeks ago) link
Top 30 Tracks
Mr. Self DestructHappiness In SlaveryThe BecomingThe Great BelowThe Perfect DrugPiggyThe FragileEraserCloserDown In ItSomewhat DamagedThe Big Come DownMarch Of The PigsGave UpIn This TwilightHeresySuckThe Day The World Went AwayA Warm PlaceThe Way Out Is ThroughComplicationHurtUnderneath It AllJust Like You ImaginedInto The VoidRingfingerSomething I Can Never HaveBurnMe, I'm NotSin
Top 10 NIN Releases
The Downward SpiralBrokenThe Fragile: Deviations 1Year ZeroThe FragilePretty Hate MachineCloser to GodFurther Down the SpiralThe Perfect DrugStill
Top 10 Remixes
In this Twilight (Fennesz)I'm Afraid of Americans (Nine Inch Nails V1 Mix)The Perfect Drug (Remixed By Spacetime Continuum)Closer To GodThe Perfect Drug (Remixed By Nine Inch Nails)Find My Way (OPN remix)The Hearts Filthy Lesson (Trent Reznor Alternative Mix)Happiness In Slavery (Remixed by Trent Reznor and Chris Vrenna with PK)The Beauty of Being NumbSlipping Away
― octobeard, Thursday, 2 May 2024 01:03 (two weeks ago) link
I Do Not Want ThisKinda I Want To
Nice back to back there
― octobeard, Thursday, 2 May 2024 01:07 (two weeks ago) link
Ha!
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 2 May 2024 02:45 (two weeks ago) link
my tracks ballot:
The BecomingSinEven DeeperSomething I Can Never HaveWe're In This TogetherShit MirrorCloserThat's What I GetAnd All That Could Have BeenBeside You In TimeJust Like You ImaginedThe Great DestroyerMr. Self DestructShe's Gone AwayThe Big Come DownVarious Methods of EscapeWith TeethMarch Of The PigsLa MerGod Break Down the DoorThe Four of Us Are DyingHeresyFind My WayThe WretchedThe LoversThe Great BelowHead Like A HoleAll Time LowPhysical (You're So)Less Than
releases:
The FragileThe Downward SpiralPretty Hate MachineStillBad WitchHesitation MarksAdd ViolenceNot the Actual EventsBrokenWith Teeth
― ashamed, Thursday, 2 May 2024 06:30 (two weeks ago) link
TracksThe BecomingHead Like a HoleWe're in This TogetherHurtSomething I Can Never HaveThe Great BelowCloserSinJust Like You ImaginedA Warm PlaceWishEraserSanctifiedThe Day The World Went AwayMr Self DestructRight Where It BelongsLa MerHeresyHappiness In SlaveryReptileUnderneath It AllRuinerHand Covers BruiseGave Up(You Made It Feel Like) HomeIn This TwilightTerrible LieFind My WayDown in ItThe Great DestroyerReleasesThe Downward SpiralPretty Hate MachineBrokenThe FragileFurther Down the SpiralYear ZeroWith TeethHesitation MarksFixedY34RZ3r0r3mix3dRemixesGave Up remixed by Coil with Danny Hyde (from Fixed)Heresy (version) (remixed by Charlie Clouser) (from Further Down the Spiral)The Great Destroyer - modwheelmoodAnother Version of the Truth - Kronos and Enrique Gonzales MullerIn This Twilight - fenneszRuiner (version) (remixed by Charlie Clouser) (from Further Down the Spiral)The Hand That Feeds - DFA MixOnly - Richard X MixRollercoaster - Neil CiceriegaAt the Heart of It All - Aphex Twin
― ledge, Thursday, 2 May 2024 07:11 (two weeks ago) link
Tracks:
March of the PigsWe're in This TogetherCloserHeresyLastSinRuinerEverythingMr. Self DestructEvery Day Is Exactly the SameEraserShe's Gone AwayOnlyReptileInto the VoidShit MirrorHead Like a HoleSomewhat DamagedWishVarious Methods of EscapeThis Isn't the PlaceOver and OutTerrible LieCopy of aLess ThanHurtLove Is Not EnoughJust Like You ImaginedI Do Not Want ThisPhysical (You're So)
Releases:
The Downward SpiralBrokenBad WitchHesitation MarksThe FragileAdd ViolenceNot the Actual EventsFurther Down the SpiralPretty Hate MachineWith Teeth
Remixes:
Closer to GodThe Hand That Feeds (DFA Mix)The Art of Self Destruction, Part OneIn This Twilight (Fennesz Remix)The Downward Spiral (The Bottom)Self Destruction, FinalFind My Way (Oneohtrix Point Never Remix)Eraser (Denial: Realization)Gave Up (Fixed version)The Beauty of Being Numb
― Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 2 May 2024 07:51 (two weeks ago) link
my ballot
March Of The PigsHeresyPilgrimageEraserMr. Self DestructGod Break Down The DoorLa MerThe Great BelowTerrible LieThe Perfect DrugThe BecomingThe Downward SpiralReptileMemorabiliaHappiness In SlaveryQuake ThemeA Violet FluidA Warm PlaceDriver DownHead Like A HoleRuinerI Do Not Want ThisWe’re In This TogetherThe Day The World Went AwaySinWish
Self Destruction, FinalAll The Pigs, All Lined UpThe Downward Spiral (The Bottom)Self Destruction, Part TwoEraser (Denial: Realization)Eraser (Polite)Erased, Over, OutThe Art Of Self Destruction, Part OneUnderneath The SkinCloser (Precursor)
Albums:
Further Down The SpiralThe Downward SpiralMarch Of The PigsCloser To GodPretty Hate MachineBad WitchBrokenQuakeGhosts V: TogetherGhosts VI: Locusts
― silverfish, Thursday, 2 May 2024 15:23 (two weeks ago) link
Though as noted above TDS is an incredible outstanding nonpareil ne plus ultra of production
re this and other comments above about TDS' very unique hyper-layered production density, I'm interested to hear what (if any) other records of the era people think broadly fit into this category
― Tim F, Friday, 3 May 2024 04:59 (two weeks ago) link
Failure's "Fantastic Planet" was the first thing that popped in my head.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 3 May 2024 05:10 (two weeks ago) link
maybe not quite the same hyper-layeredness but a couple of 90s albums that, for me, still stand out for their (idiosyncratic and or fresh/new/noticeable) production: Sparklehorse's vivadixiesubmarinetransmissionplot, Eels' Beautiful Freak, DJ Shadow's Endtroducing, and why not, U2's Achtung Baby
― StanM, Friday, 3 May 2024 06:28 (two weeks ago) link
the guitar on "we're in this together" sounds like the edge's playing on achtung baby
― ufo, Friday, 3 May 2024 06:40 (two weeks ago) link
Regarding hyper-layered: first thing that came to mind was the PE/Bomb Squad stuff, as an antecedent. Trent mentioned 3 Feet High and Rising in the Rick Rubin podcast, so Prince Paul, Dust Brothers and other pre-sample crackdown hip hop production would've been an influence.
― Vernon Locke, Friday, 3 May 2024 06:47 (two weeks ago) link
i tried the first two tracks and this just sounds to me like standard grungy alt rock, sorry!
― ledge, Friday, 3 May 2024 07:51 (two weeks ago) link
It's not 90's (though close) but the album I think of when I hear "hyper layered" is Since I Left You. Especially the original cut with all samples intact.
― octobeard, Friday, 3 May 2024 08:10 (two weeks ago) link
The sonic aesthetic does seem post-Bomb Squad in its layered approach. Prince Paul and The Dust Brothers (at least Paul's Boutique - I'd need to revisit Odelay again) feel slightly different to me, though I'm struggling to put my finger on why? Maybe it's that density never seems like the point of their productions. I can certainly imagine they might have influenced Trent in terms of their strategic use of sounds (sampled or otherwise) though.
The 90s albums that occurred to me as sharing that kind of vibe were New Kingdom's 'Paradise Don't Come Cheap', Disco Inferno's 'D.I. Go Pop', Ruby's 'Salt Peter' and Garbage's 'Version 2.0', though each of them is doing something at least slightly different.
― Tim F, Friday, 3 May 2024 12:41 (two weeks ago) link
I love seeing "The Becoming" so high. I thought it might have missed the cut. That would have been my top-ranked TDS track, most likely.
― jmm, Friday, 3 May 2024 12:54 (two weeks ago) link
The Woodstock 94 performance of "Sin" alone might have made it my #1.
― jmm, Friday, 3 May 2024 13:17 (two weeks ago) link
I know when I first heard it, a large part of the appeal of TDS was definitely the densely layered sound of it, but also that a lot of these sounds were things I'd never heard before, like blowing into straw thing from eraser. I feel like the only kind of stuff I'd heard that did that kind of stuff before was Depeche Mode (because of Flood maybe?)
― silverfish, Friday, 3 May 2024 13:41 (two weeks ago) link
Yup, I was about to say “Violator” and that era of Flood in general, but none of it is nearly at TDS levels of complexity.
― Doctor Madame Frances Experimento, LLC", Friday, 3 May 2024 14:06 (two weeks ago) link
I was a fan of Failure and never really thought of them as that hyper produced. Certainly not to the level of TDS.
In my mind, the only thing that came close the noise/sound layering of TDS was some of Foetus’s work, like Gash.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 3 May 2024 17:14 (two weeks ago) link
TDS also benefitted from arriving right as CDs were becoming the primary form of physical media. The level of dynamic range and clarity was unprecedented not only on the album itself but also the method in which I listened to it… I remember being gifted a pair of “good headphones” at age 15 (as opposed to the standard Sony Walkman issuances) and feeling like all the CDs I owned (and dubbed on to tape for mobile listening) were suddenly shocked into focus
― your dog is fed and no one cares (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 3 May 2024 17:42 (two weeks ago) link
The Flood discussion, and his contribution to the Downward Spiral, is very interesting to explore.
I recently read “Into The Never: Nine Inch Nails And The Creation Of The Downward Spiral” by Adam Steiner, which I would heartily recommend. Atrocious front cover, but some excellent and considered writing contained within.
In that book, there are was the suggestion was that Flood became increasingly uneasy and uncomfortable with the bleakness, particularly the suicide ideation, of much of Reznor’s lyrical content - especially a song that didn’t make the cut for the album proper - and bailed out after completing the album swearing he’d never work with him again.
― Internet Alan, Friday, 3 May 2024 17:45 (two weeks ago) link
most stuff that comes to mind is a bit more turn-of-the-millenium, reznor was really ahead of his time, but fantasma, ok computer, a few super furry animals songs here and there come to mind
― ufo, Friday, 3 May 2024 21:16 (two weeks ago) link
Another comparison that occurred to me was the first Laika album together with the second and third Moonshake albums (the second Laika album might not fit here, even if it’s probably my favourite of the four) - stuff like “Hard Candy” on Dirty & Divine. Those albums came out in 94 and 96 (as did Disco Inferno’s second and third albums) so very comparable timewise.
And of course (“of course”) later on El-P’s production work in the 00s (but not really Company Flow earlier on) - at its best sounding like an attempt to split the difference between “The Becoming” and “By The Time I Get to Arizona”.
― Tim F, Friday, 3 May 2024 22:23 (two weeks ago) link
Kate Van Buren's channel is a gift
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjqZ8RIiRLU
― jmm, Saturday, 4 May 2024 03:06 (two weeks ago) link
Well, that's "NIN meet David Crosby at Woodstock 94"