U.S. Supreme Court: Post-Ginsburg Edition

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Yeah I mean why don't they just go home jeez

These are the times that the religious justices all agree in a separation of church (ie, Jesus' commandments on helping the poor) and state... not to say they'd do any sort of charity in their private lives either.

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 23 April 2024 16:03 (one week ago) link

In practical terms a lot of this is going to boil down to the policy question of where the burden of alleviating homelessness falls. On one end, there’s the probably untenable idea that every municipality in America no matter how small or under resourced has to provide a fairly sophisticated shelter system, and on the other end it’s blue cities are going to get stuck with the bill for housing the homeless as red cities and small towns can just force them to move along. Neither is really tenable but those are the practical implications of the constitutional question. Some kind of federal legislation is probably needed to ensure that the cost of housing the homeless is properly spread out.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 23 April 2024 16:27 (one week ago) link

Today at the court— After Starbucks fired seven workers who were trying to unionize their Tennessee store, a U.S. government agency obtained a court order forcing the company to rehire them. Now, Starbucks wants the Supreme Court to curb the government’s power in such cases.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/04/23/starbucks-federal-labor-agency-supreme-court/

Court majority was likely sympathetic to Starbucks

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 16:50 (one week ago) link

And today- Idaho abortion ban vs federal law protecting patients who need emergency care. Supreme Court is holding president immunity hearing till tomorrow Thursday April 25 ( & may take their time issuing a decision to help the court majority’s pal)

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 13:42 (one week ago) link

Hmm. I may be wrong, but the conservatives (even Alito!) seem to want to make emergency access an exception to their hostility? Alito and Gorsuch and Roberts sound like they're begging the federal government for assurance that this is an exception.

Solicitor General Elizabeth Prelogar is so good at this.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 15:23 (one week ago) link

Sounds like they want to be slick and pretend the Idaho law allows for protection of women, and allows doctors to protect the pregnant person , when in fact the Idaho law doesn’t clearly do that and allows for prosecution of doctors.

Alito was focused on the unborn child language in such a way that didn’t seem to show much of any concern for the pregnant person

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 18:20 (one week ago) link

I wrote my post before Alito's DINGO ATE MAH BAYBEE language.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 18:22 (one week ago) link

When I read that Alito was focused on unborn child language am I to assume he was making guttural noises in addition to some combination of moaning and gargling?

henry s, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 18:40 (one week ago) link

He's the angriest one on the court. The state of Idaho Is arguing for the right of prosecutors (or fearful doctors) to deny patients emergency abortion care, even if it means that they could die, and Alito wants that

curmudgeon, Thursday, 25 April 2024 13:35 (one week ago) link

But today is the long delayed immunity case that could have been dismissed or held awhile ago, and which needs to have a decision issued quickly, so trials can proceed before the election. But Supreme Court, which has in the past, heard and issued decisions quickly, isn't interested here

curmudgeon, Thursday, 25 April 2024 13:38 (one week ago) link

is there any chance they actually rule that the President is allowed to commit unlimited crime?

frogbs, Thursday, 25 April 2024 13:43 (one week ago) link

Probably frantically pressuring clerks to help them figure out how to make sure it only applies to Republic presidents moving forward.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 25 April 2024 13:50 (one week ago) link

I'm sure they can come up with some loophole to help him

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 25 April 2024 13:55 (one week ago) link

when you're famous they let you do it

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 25 April 2024 14:08 (one week ago) link

jfc listing to the trump lawyer speak is painful

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 25 April 2024 14:19 (one week ago) link

listening*

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 25 April 2024 14:20 (one week ago) link

hmmm doesn't seem like the SC is buying this

frogbs, Thursday, 25 April 2024 14:30 (one week ago) link

poor fella. don't they owe him? he seated a third of them, got abortion outlawed in the confederacy :(

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 25 April 2024 14:35 (one week ago) link

jesus listening to this trump asshole is really friggin' hard. it sounds like two pieces of sandpaper fucking.

scott seward, Thursday, 25 April 2024 14:41 (one week ago) link

Biden eagerly awaiting the go-ahead to order Trump's assassination

Pierre Delecto, Thursday, 25 April 2024 14:46 (one week ago) link

so it doesn't look like this is gonna go Trump's way but I wonder when they're actually gonna issue the ruling, like is this something where they aren't gonna explicitly say Trump is above the law but will help him out by taking 3 months to decide

frogbs, Thursday, 25 April 2024 14:49 (one week ago) link

but how are they going to get the Biden crime family if they absolve Trump? This isn't an easy decision

StanM, Thursday, 25 April 2024 14:55 (one week ago) link

I started listening during Gorsuch's turn. Jackson's kicking his ass now.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 April 2024 14:55 (one week ago) link

Biden should just whack Trump now, he's 81, if he doesn't get immunity he'll be dead before he reaches prison anyway

Big Bong Theory (stevie), Thursday, 25 April 2024 14:59 (one week ago) link

DO IT AND BE LEGENDS

Big Bong Theory (stevie), Thursday, 25 April 2024 14:59 (one week ago) link

Thomas needs to go back to sleep

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 25 April 2024 15:03 (one week ago) link

jesus listening to this trump asshole is really friggin' hard. it sounds like two pieces of sandpaper fucking.

Massive lol. And not only is his laryngitis (or whatever it is) painful it seems that he thinks the faster he speaks the smarter he is.

Requiem for a Dream: The Musical! (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 25 April 2024 15:05 (one week ago) link

This fucking guy, with his wife promoting sedition.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 April 2024 15:05 (one week ago) link

I had to walk back into my office when I thought I heard Thomas cite Operation Mongoose.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 April 2024 15:07 (one week ago) link

Good morning!

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 25 April 2024 15:10 (one week ago) link

worth mentioning this whole thing is a sham the only point was to get them to take up the argument in the first place so they could delay the trial

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-celebrating-supreme-court-immunity-heist-1235009838/

frogbs, Thursday, 25 April 2024 15:11 (one week ago) link

I mean its pretty wild that their entire strategy is just a very out in the open "delay until after the election and have Trump kill off the cases once he wins" and there's nothing our justice system can do about it

frogbs, Thursday, 25 April 2024 15:14 (one week ago) link

there's plenty they can do, they just don't want to

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 25 April 2024 15:28 (one week ago) link

Ten minutes ago Alito, eyes practically welling up with tears, wondered if we undermine a "stable democracy" if we didn't allow presidents to leave office in peace.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 April 2024 15:54 (one week ago) link

Then he broke into "One Last Time"

Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Thursday, 25 April 2024 15:58 (one week ago) link

Michael R. Dreeben will fuck you up. That's all i know. He knows his stuff.

scott seward, Thursday, 25 April 2024 16:19 (one week ago) link

how many of the pending trial are waiting on this ruling? does it affect the classified docs trial at all?

frogbs, Thursday, 25 April 2024 16:44 (one week ago) link

Ten minutes ago Alito, eyes practically welling up with tears, wondered if we undermine a "stable democracy" if we didn't allow presidents to leave office in peace.


Loooooool it’s like January 6 never happened.

Are you addicted to struggling with your horse? (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 25 April 2024 16:46 (one week ago) link

Thomas says presidents in the past have participated in coups, "yet there have been no prosecutions"??

Is this motherfucker serious? His argument is "Every president coups, why is mine getting charged?"

— Elie Mystal (@ElieNYC) April 25, 2024

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 April 2024 16:49 (one week ago) link

the fact that Thomas is even allowed to rule on this is insane

still can't imagine it goes Trump's way, the question is will they turn around a ruling quickly (like they did with Bush vs. Gore) or will they drag their feet until July and give Trump what he wants

frogbs, Thursday, 25 April 2024 16:53 (one week ago) link

in the end what really is the difference between Iran and the United States

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 25 April 2024 16:53 (one week ago) link

All the conservative justices: Let's not look at the facts in this case, let's look at instead my hypothetical questions based on my viewing of Fox Cable news, or lets look at this historical thing I remember, Operation Mongoose, or the pardoning of Nixon

curmudgeon, Thursday, 25 April 2024 16:53 (one week ago) link

The case is submitted. Court doesn't come back till May 9th which will be a decision day.

But I think they won't decide *this* case until July 3rd for max delay. And that decision will be 5-4 to remand the case back to DC, for additional delay.

— Elie Mystal (@ElieNYC) April 25, 2024

Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Thursday, 25 April 2024 16:55 (one week ago) link

I got up to use the bathroom and literally turned around and returned to my office when I heard Thomas mention Operation Mongoose.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 April 2024 16:59 (one week ago) link

I admit I had to google that President Kennedy item

The (male) conservative justices lined up to declare that the REAL threat to democracy wasn't Trump's attempt to steal the 2020 election, but the Justice Department's effort to hold him accountable. They were almost entirely worried about the prosecution, not the alleged crime.

Mark Joseph Stern of Slate

https://x.com/mjs_DC/status/1783539335662276627

curmudgeon, Thursday, 25 April 2024 17:02 (one week ago) link

The conservative justices mostly avoided specifically defending Trump's acts as official acts of the president worth giving immunity to, they just slickly alluded to theoretical examples and their own takes on a few historical examples, so that they can remand the case back under a new definition of immunity that they will create

curmudgeon, Thursday, 25 April 2024 17:07 (one week ago) link


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