soooo, if their defense is just: this wasn't a hush money payment and michael cohen is a liar then..they are cooked, right? they aren't even going to bother defending the election stuff. because they can't. their only shot is for the jury to...be really really dumb.
― scott seward, Monday, 22 April 2024 15:59 (one week ago) link
Burden of proof is always the prosecutor's to make but it does seem like they have most of the cards.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 22 April 2024 16:19 (one week ago) link
PECKER TO THE STAND.
― scott seward, Monday, 22 April 2024 16:21 (one week ago) link
Hahaha
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 22 April 2024 16:22 (one week ago) link
they are not dumb:
"Merchan stops testimony, says he realizes jurors weren’t given writing materials to take notes. At least 10 raise their hands when asked if they’d like some."
― scott seward, Monday, 22 April 2024 16:24 (one week ago) link
this is going to be a pretty crazy trial.
― scott seward, Monday, 22 April 2024 16:25 (one week ago) link
great characters. The Fixer. The Rag King. The Porn Star. The Orange Boss.
― scott seward, Monday, 22 April 2024 16:29 (one week ago) link
Tom Wolfe is very upset that he's dead right now.
― Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Monday, 22 April 2024 16:35 (one week ago) link
ICYMI pic.twitter.com/YnXm2V5Nj0— a horse child is born (taken out for gallops) 🫏🐀 (@BinAnimals) April 22, 2024
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Monday, 22 April 2024 16:42 (one week ago) link
He’s not the only one tbrr
― tobo73, Monday, 22 April 2024 16:43 (one week ago) link
xpost LOL
so badly faked it loses half a letter grade but still funny
i wonder if news networks gave guidelines for how to report on pecker
― ain't nothin but a brie thing, baby (Neanderthal), Monday, 22 April 2024 16:52 (one week ago) link
so the defense's argument is essentially "this should not be a crime"??
― frogbs, Monday, 22 April 2024 17:12 (one week ago) link
yes
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 22 April 2024 17:17 (one week ago) link
Just heard a woman reporter on Sky News say, "Pecker is going to be huge".
― Not waving but droning (Tom D.), Monday, 22 April 2024 17:18 (one week ago) link
it's the 'catch and kill' part that isn't a crime; it's the down-ballot ramifications wrt the election and that doing c&k was in service of interfering w the election
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 22 April 2024 17:18 (one week ago) link
Epner with a solid point earlier:
I'm reading the live blogging of Todd Blanche's opening statement and looking for one thing: Does Todd Blanche saying something along the lines of "You don't have to like Donald Trump to reject the charges in this case." I have not seen Blanche say anything like that yet.FPOTUS may have barred Blanche from saying it. Without having been privy to their strategic discussions, I'm virtually certain that Blanche & Necheles want that to be said during the opening. It is what every defense counsel says in a case where the defendant has some fleas on him.The prosecution has objected to three separate portions of Blanche's opening (which is rare). Each of those objections has been SUSTAINED (meaning the judge ruled for the prosecution and against Trump).This is horrible for Blanche's credibility with the jury, in my training & experience.
I have not seen Blanche say anything like that yet.
FPOTUS may have barred Blanche from saying it. Without having been privy to their strategic discussions, I'm virtually certain that Blanche & Necheles want that to be said during the opening. It is what every defense counsel says in a case where the defendant has some fleas on him.
The prosecution has objected to three separate portions of Blanche's opening (which is rare). Each of those objections has been SUSTAINED (meaning the judge ruled for the prosecution and against Trump).
This is horrible for Blanche's credibility with the jury, in my training & experience.
He implicitly notes that this is in contrast to the prosecutors being upfront about Cohen's own flaws, and hazarded a guess as to how their closing argument could go. But yeah, Trump BEING Trump, having to at any point admit a flaw seems like a no-go so he wouldn't let his lawyers do that either, and FWIW, this suddenly becomes a clear running line across ALL his legal cases, essentially hiding in plain sight. He never fails, is only failed, etc.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 22 April 2024 17:18 (one week ago) link
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, April 22, 2024 12:18 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
had Trump just paid out of his own pocket, is it likely that nobody knows who Stormy Daniels is today? or were there enough people poking around Trump's finances that someone might've figured it out?
― frogbs, Monday, 22 April 2024 17:31 (one week ago) link
Trump’s motorcade left the courthouse just after 1:05 p.m., wrapping up the trial’s first day of testimony. The view was blocked by an N.Y.P.D. dump truck, to many reporters’ great frustration.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 22 April 2024 17:36 (one week ago) link
>had Trump just paid out of his own pocket, is it likely that nobody knows who Stormy Daniels is today? or were there enough people poking around Trump's finances that someone might've figured it out?
aiui there will be testimony centered around why payments went thru cohen and not direct from trump or trump org
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 22 April 2024 17:39 (one week ago) link
the thing Trump hates most in the world is losing
I don't think this is right. Maybe it depends what losing means. What he hates is not being the centre of attention. Losing isn't so bad (why would you take up so many battles otherwise?) as long as you get to keep fighting (with his ideologically fanatical associates, elected or not, also more interested in fighting than winning generally) and being the CoA.
― nashwan, Monday, 22 April 2024 18:01 (one week ago) link
Why does the NYPD have a dump truck
― Are you addicted to struggling with your horse? (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 22 April 2024 18:32 (one week ago) link
that's where they put all the skells, second story men, sneak thieves, and peepers.
― scott seward, Monday, 22 April 2024 18:34 (one week ago) link
xpost maybe it was a police officer w/ a big ass
― ain't nothin but a brie thing, baby (Neanderthal), Monday, 22 April 2024 18:35 (one week ago) link
Special Sanitation Unit
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 22 April 2024 18:35 (one week ago) link
they are literally for the purpose they were used today: mobile barriers. they get used during parades. they are managed by nypd counterterrorism. weird fuckin city.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 22 April 2024 18:38 (one week ago) link
apparently they are filled with sand to help them absorb explosions. oy vey.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 22 April 2024 18:40 (one week ago) link
who isn't?
― he/him hoo-hah (map), Monday, 22 April 2024 18:43 (one week ago) link
Is there a Law and Order episode where they find a body in the sand truck?
― Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Monday, 22 April 2024 18:51 (one week ago) link
lmao xp
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 22 April 2024 19:04 (one week ago) link
What he hates is not being the centre of attention.
He also seems to take great pleasure in humiliating others.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 22 April 2024 19:50 (one week ago) link
seems very illegal
NEW: Trump valet Walt Nauta was allegedly told “if even if he gets charged with lying to the FBI, FPOTUS will pardon him in 2024” — per cooperating witness Person 16Nauta is now a co-defendant in the Trump classified docs case, charged with obstructionhttps://t.co/EZoHEanEDB pic.twitter.com/KQnh7hWWWQ— Hugo Lowell (@hugolowell) April 22, 2024
― frogbs, Monday, 22 April 2024 21:40 (one week ago) link
FPOTUS
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 April 2024 22:04 (one week ago) link
i too FPed POTUS
― ain't nothin but a brie thing, baby (Neanderthal), Monday, 22 April 2024 22:07 (one week ago) link
Gotta say I am somewhat gobsmacked by the defence narrative - “it was just a piece of routine business to conceal his actions, you know, so voters wouldn’t be influenced by knowing what he’s really like”.
― assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 22 April 2024 22:08 (one week ago) link
Scraping FPOTUS Off the Wheel
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Monday, 22 April 2024 22:48 (one week ago) link
You’ve Got FPOTUS On Your Breath
― steely flan (suzy), Monday, 22 April 2024 22:50 (one week ago) link
any good anagrams for Walt Nauta. i suck at anagrams.
― scott seward, Monday, 22 April 2024 22:51 (one week ago) link
W/ TAUT ANAL
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Monday, 22 April 2024 22:55 (one week ago) link
WATTA LUNA
― Ippei's on a bummer now (WmC), Monday, 22 April 2024 22:57 (one week ago) link
a twunt, AAL
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Monday, 22 April 2024 23:03 (one week ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/wjGhyYS.jpeg
― assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 22 April 2024 23:30 (one week ago) link
I won't be said if Cohen falls down an elevator shaft 30 seconds after the last time he testifies against Trump.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Tuesday, 23 April 2024 00:01 (one week ago) link
xp Tuna at Law
― jaymc, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 01:04 (one week ago) link
Cohen is even dumber than his former boss. Why on earth would you tweet that during a trial at which you're the flawed star witness
― Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 03:05 (one week ago) link
I mean he has tapes of incriminating conversations and already went to jail for this so idk if it matters how "flawed" he is, in fact perhaps being "flawed" shows the jury exactly what kind of scumbag Trump needed to handle his "business"
― frogbs, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 03:08 (one week ago) link
actually the more I think about it the less I'm worried about some rogue Trump voter on the jury tanking the whole thing. like there may be people on the jury who voted Trump but I don't think any of the ride-or-dies could've made it on (and the prosecution almost certainly used their strikes on anyone they suspected was one) and if anything could deprogram a Trump voter it's actually having to spend a month and a half around the guy, hearing the whining and seeing him fall asleep and rip ass in the courtroom as piles and piles of evidence mounted against him. also this is six weeks in which they won't be able to watch FOX News and there have been studies showing just keeping these people away from the propaganda for a little bit makes them way more moderate.
― frogbs, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 03:28 (one week ago) link
also important to remember they explicitly tell the jury they are not there to decide if the defendant committed a crime, they're there to decide if he did X, Y, and Z, which are often very specific things, things which I assume the prosecution has a ton of evidence for. so whoever wants to hold this up is going to have to look like an insane person in front of a group of people who will have been their only real contacts for 6 weeks
― frogbs, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 03:39 (one week ago) link
I’d say the fact that Trump did not have the wherewithal to be able to set up shell corps and off shore accounts to handle such slush funds and make such payments hard to track is further proof he is a pretty shitty evil business genius.
― The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 03:47 (one week ago) link
When the judge tells your lawyer, "You're losing all credibility with the court," that's a good thing, right?
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Tuesday, 23 April 2024 14:50 (one week ago) link
NYT says it's bad for Biden
― ain't nothin but a brie thing, baby (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 23 April 2024 14:50 (one week ago) link