Technological/practical "backward steps" we all just accept now

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Websites that make me log in again even though I've ticked the box that says "remember me". I was under the impression that ticking the box sets a cookie but I never clear cookies and this happens to me all the time regardless.

bored by endless ecstasy (anagram), Thursday, 18 April 2024 04:18 (one week ago) link

why can't we bring back DOS 5.0? i knew how to use DOS 5.0

rusho OTM

c u (crüt), Thursday, 18 April 2024 05:05 (one week ago) link

The single most annoying tech thing for me is when I log into the site for my kid's 529 account, which I do five times a week. It has 2FA, which is fine, but when I get the code from text and go to paste it in the box, CMD/CTRL+V doesn't work! I have to right click and then select paste for it to work. I hate it so much, disrupts my whole flow.

Jeff, Thursday, 18 April 2024 10:06 (one week ago) link

what browser do you use? there are extensions that will fix that.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 18 April 2024 13:29 (one week ago) link

Chrome. I never thought of an extension, but I will investigate. It will save me seconds every day!!

Jeff, Thursday, 18 April 2024 14:24 (one week ago) link

Wait … how are you Ctrl V ing on your phone? I have to wait for the “copy | paste | some other dumb thing” option to appear after tapping the code ??

sarahell, Saturday, 20 April 2024 00:22 (one week ago) link

On my Mac.

Jeff, Saturday, 20 April 2024 00:27 (one week ago) link

i hope you aren't one of those Mac users that assume that just because someone has an iphone that you can send them long-ass texts that should actually be emails because you can text using your computer, whereas those of us who have PCs are stuck responding to your long-ass texts with the dumb iphone interface, thus we prefer not to have to respond at the length that your text requires/implies?

sarahell, Sunday, 21 April 2024 17:14 (one week ago) link

Haha, that's just when I respond with a good old-fashioned 👍

pplains, Monday, 22 April 2024 15:45 (one week ago) link

i have an 11yo dell desktop computer running windows 8.1

sometimes if i watch a large-enough video for too long, the video card locks up and i need to reboot. rebooting takes about half an hour.

that said, it essentially does everything i need it to, like run a plex server, read ilx, play music, browse the internet, etc.

zoom long ago stopped working, which is totally fine, i can see that. but now slack won't work, and i've been skirting around whatsapp no longer working by using third-party apps. no idea what advanced features slack or whatsapp might be trying to send me, but jfc why am i gonna have to buy a new computer (and figure out all its shitty administrative privileges and port forwarding again) when i just want my current functions to not disappear

mookieproof, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 06:34 (one week ago) link

I am sorry for your loss…

sarahell, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 12:07 (one week ago) link

11 years is a great run, pour one out for the homie

Nhex, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 12:56 (one week ago) link

you could probably install some lightweight version of linux on that old PC and extend its use by a couple more years, assuming there are no serious issues with hardware issues, but obviously that is a hassle and it is annoying (and wasteful) when things just stop working even though nothing is actually broken.

silverfish, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 13:34 (one week ago) link

I get mookie's point because, dammit, the computer still works.

I've got a 2009 imac that both Chrome and Firefox have left behind in the dust. Fine. But yet, I'm still greeted with the (Download | Dismiss) pop-up everytime I log on.

pplains, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 13:51 (one week ago) link

there's no way a 11 year computer is "old", this is nothing like using a 1980 computer in 1991, or a 1991 one in 2002

there's something *seriously* wrong with mookie's pc if a reboot takes half an hour, not even windows could be that shitty.
software or hardware issue, i have no clue, but it's certainly not obsolescence causing those issues

reminds me of this: https://cohost.org/ghoulnoise/post/5286766-do-not-buy-hisense-t

chihuahuau, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 13:56 (one week ago) link

2fa is killing me these days.

About 9 years ago, we got little RSA keyfobs at work to log into our Windows profile, which was annoying.

At the beginning of the pandemic, they made us switch to an app, needing to use authentication to log into the VPN as well as our Windows profile. It's possible that we needed 2fa to log into the VPN before the pandemic, but I wasn't working from home that much.

They soon added the intranet, our timekeeping software, and several internal databases as needing separate authentication.

In the past year, we have now needed to use the 2fa app every time we lock the screen, meaning I either have to authenticate dozens of times per day or I just stop locking my screen when I walk away from the computer.

In the meantime, one of our external vendors started requiring 2fa on a cloud-based product (using a separate app), but there was a checkbox you could click on their login screen that would remember your individual computer remain so you could remain authenticated for 30 days.

However, last week, the vendor updated their login screen. It still has the checkbox, but thus far, it has not remembered me as promised, so I have had to use their 2fa app every day.

I don't know if this is an appropriate amount of 2FA, given the world's cybersecurity challenges, but it feels like overkill.

peace, man, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 14:00 (one week ago) link

You're right. Probably need to go to 3FA.

pplains, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 16:05 (one week ago) link

there's something *seriously* wrong with mookie's pc if a reboot takes half an hour, not even windows could be that shitty.

lol i am hardly an expert but i periodically run several tune-up/bot-check programs, all of which tell me things are theoretically fine. my windows is updated (if deprecated), as are my drivers. i don't even care about the lengthy bootup process! i just want the shit that has always worked to *not stop working*

mookieproof, Thursday, 25 April 2024 02:25 (six days ago) link

I think it's a symptom of something bad but who knows

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 25 April 2024 14:32 (six days ago) link

Google can stop popping a window offering me a login with my Google I.D. on sites that already have pop-up windows with my specific login info already in them, login info that I likely saved in my Google account.

pplains, Thursday, 25 April 2024 16:29 (six days ago) link

i wonder if it's applications in the startup process that makes it take so long? Have you tried disabling everything except the bare minimum windows stuff from running at start up? My laptop is only 4 years old and it has gotten more sluggish starting up because of this and the background processes from all the applications that seem to be designed for the newest/fastest computers ... bloatware, isn't that the term?

also -- applications that decide I should change my mind about not wanting to take advantage of their new features and redesign, even though I constantly say "switch to classic view"

sarahell, Thursday, 25 April 2024 16:37 (six days ago) link

Google can stop popping a window offering me a login with my Google I.D. on sites that already have pop-up windows with my specific login info already in them

ugh this is truly one of my major annoyances as well ...

sarahell, Thursday, 25 April 2024 16:39 (six days ago) link

A couple of years ago my then-eight years old laptop was taking over 20 minutes to restart... turns out the hard drive was failing and replacing it solved the problem.

Kim Kimberly, Thursday, 25 April 2024 17:34 (six days ago) link

yeah i dont want to be all "half informed tech advice" but if yr windows drive isnt already a decent-performing ssd then that can be transformative

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 April 2024 17:59 (six days ago) link

it's true, but SSDs are still too small, when I was buying a new laptop I had to specially request a 2TB one as it wasn't standard, I do video editing and that still isn't really enough.

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 25 April 2024 18:16 (six days ago) link

for the OS a smaller one is plenty, for what mookie describes id also imagine the same

pretty much any setup would have as much space as you want for content on additional hdd anyway?

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 April 2024 20:25 (six days ago) link

my slow ass boot up 10 year old laptop got a lot better when I moved my 70GBs of photos off the (90gb?) laptop and onto a portable drive

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 25 April 2024 20:42 (six days ago) link

hi!

sheer space can also be an issue def but i dont want to mediocrely (?) splain basic home computer maintenance im sure theres dozens better posters to do it even if mookie doesnt already know it and its the windows 8.1 thats the issue or w/e

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 April 2024 20:45 (six days ago) link

hi!! <3 I know I was just another annoying voice on the pile but old habits die hard. It really did make a big difference though.

to mookie’s original point, yes. I get so irritated by the “just buy a new machine” mentality. I miss buying a bigger stick of RAM (a thing I did once.. but it counts) I’d like to yell at the devs to ensure backwards compatibility but in solidarity I’ll turn my ire toward the PMs and people concerned about shareholders etc forcing feature bloat in the inexhaustible drive for growth

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Saturday, 27 April 2024 16:40 (four days ago) link

this has probably been a thing for years now but today I walked to the corner store to get Gatorade, only to see nobody at the counter. after about five minutes, this guy comes in saying the computers are all down, sorry, you'll have to go elsewhere. used to be they'd manually ring you up and you could pay cash, but nope - they were basically shutting down and forgot to lock the door.

this is a chain obviously so they probably use AI software to analyze the sales metadata and have it make automated store/region product purchase decisions without human input (I never see managers at this location anymore). as a result, instead of telling their employees "just write down what you sold, and take cash if you can", they tell them to close the store. while probably blaming them and insinuating they broke the computer system in the interim.

so the store just becomes a big paperweight until the computers come back on and their employees get mega stressed out as there are never managers on duty to help.

ain't nothin but a brie thing, baby (Neanderthal), Saturday, 27 April 2024 17:55 (four days ago) link

and the other thing about being a chain is sometimes this happens: https://www.wsj.com/business/retail/walmart-computer-glitch-halts-sales-and-returns-at-stores-02858f45

ain't nothin but a brie thing, baby (Neanderthal), Saturday, 27 April 2024 17:57 (four days ago) link

Yeah, have had this happen a few times in the past few years, usually at gas station/convenience stores.

Whereas at the Philly coffee shop chain that I frequent? Square goes down, they go cash or CashApp only.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 27 April 2024 17:57 (four days ago) link

Same with the gym where I work: when our POS system is on the fritz or updating, we just write down what people have bought and members sign in their names on paper, like they used to back in the day.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 27 April 2024 17:58 (four days ago) link

at Vue cinemas in the UK the staff can’t change anything about the projection, including the volume. it’s all set remotely. same for other aspects of the theatres, like air conditioning and lighting.

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 27 April 2024 18:04 (four days ago) link

what if the wrong movie gets projected

imagining someone hacking into the theater's mainframe and showing Caligula

ain't nothin but a brie thing, baby (Neanderthal), Saturday, 27 April 2024 18:08 (four days ago) link

Xp my corner store is a 7-11 and several times I will show up as they are closing and have turned the registers off, and they totally take cash in that window of time before locking the door

sarahell, Sunday, 28 April 2024 00:54 (three days ago) link

Maybe not all 7-11s are owned by franchisees but the ones around here are… cigarette prices differ significantly

sarahell, Sunday, 28 April 2024 00:57 (three days ago) link

And maybe this qualifies as a backward step too! So the closest one is the price the yemeni market charges plus tax … as in the total I pay is the same as at the yemeni market… the second closest one actually adds tax to the amount the closest one charges for a pack plus tax … basically they double tax. The one in Berkeley across the street from the good donut shop actually does it as tax inclusive … so it ends up being 10% cheaper than most everywhere else except Walgreens… however I have to drive to el Cerrito to get to a Walgreens that sells cigarettes…

Yea smoking is bad and I should quit.

sarahell, Sunday, 28 April 2024 01:05 (three days ago) link


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