Jason Isbell: Classic Or Dud?

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you would be surprised at how ok people are with exploiting children. it's usually not recognized as a problem until someone (in this case the mom) speaks up about it. i wouldn't expect a person reviewing the album to be very sensitive to it, as most people aren't. if no one speaks up, eventually people like me with daughter-exploitation radar are going to show up and say hello this is not ok.

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 18:55 (two weeks ago) link

i feel pretty strongly these days about this sort of thing, even to the point of using your own kids as a prop for anything public. they have a right to grow up anonymously enjoying life without being deployed in that manner. i'm agnostic on child acting these days, i think reality tv involving kids is pretty abhorrent, writing books specifically about their lives and upbringing is pretty uncool, etc. Isbell is perfectly capably of writing much more impressionistically, he could write about JTE in a manner that is even deeper and more profound without bleak observations about how his daughter will probably forget him because he ODed in a bathroom.

omar little, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 19:32 (two weeks ago) link

putting aside the morality of it, it's just a condescending thing to say, and no one likes to be condescended to (or be condescended to on their dead spouse's behalf)

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 19:37 (two weeks ago) link

The tide is definitely shifting — for most of my life I’ve been treated like a hysterical person for suggesting out loud that it’s wrong to exploit ur children. I’m glad the tide is shifting.

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 19:37 (two weeks ago) link

And it doesn't matter if no one mentioned it last year. Sometimes people keep their conclusions to themselves. Others wait for catalyzing situations like this.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 19:42 (two weeks ago) link

Relevant:

I did not receive a compassionate warning ahead of the song’s release (we found out about the song, when this page was tagged in posts about it the day it came out). While it’s not mandatory that he give me a heads up, considering it’s about my husband and mentions myself, and especially my daughter, it would have been a respectful thing to do, so that we weren’t completely blown apart when we heard it as it was celebrated as a new release.

Soon after, he was made aware that the song was extremely painful (an absolute trauma trigger) and we hoped the message was taken to heart (although he did not acknowledge it) and we hoped to move on and try to forget about it. However, we learned (due to being tagged in posts, etc) that he was opening most shows with it, and then to our complete shock he chose it as the song to play on Jimmy Kimmel on the first show back after the writer’s strike, undoubtedly to a massive audience – putting the song front and center. ‹That was one of the most painful moments following, because it was clear then that he did not care that this song was traumatizing to Justin’s loved ones and was actually pushing the song above all of the others on the album. He could have chosen any other song.

Fwiw, after the Kimmel performance, there were a number articles discussing the song, and I myself have heard a DJ on SiriusXM mention JTE after playing the song.

wow this whole thing is really gross :(

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 18 April 2024 19:55 (one week ago) link

I just saw a clip of the interview where he says the song has to exist blah blah blah and it comes off even worse when you see it and I definitely feel like this dude is toxic

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 23 April 2024 12:40 (one week ago) link

Recovery is such a huge part of his narrative that I can easily imagine it leading him to develop a kind of messianic sense of duty about it. Seems like he's having a hard time separating his own story from a need to cast everyone else's in the same stark terms, which certainly strays into being exploitative when you're talking about easily identifiable real people. I wouldn't say he's "toxic" but just playing armchair psychoanalyst I'd say he still has personality defects that maybe he mistakenly thinks sobriety resolved

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Tuesday, 23 April 2024 14:05 (one week ago) link


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