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I would like to confirm, shohei ohtani is still very good at baseball

H.P, Saturday, 13 April 2024 02:27 (two weeks ago) link

Out here making Betts, Freeman and Smith look like bums (no pun intended)

H.P, Saturday, 13 April 2024 02:28 (two weeks ago) link

Good piece by Lindsay Adler in the WSJ that confirms what a lot of you upthread were saying re CAA handling of Ohtani:

Ohtani, in his effort to focus exclusively on his on-field performance, chose to be left in the dark. What lurked in the shadows cost him at least $16 million.

In the criminal complaint against Mizuhara, prosecutors allege that Balelo (described in the complaint as “Agent 1”) asked Mizuhara about the bank account from which he was allegedly siphoning off their client’s money, and was told that Ohtani wanted it to remain “private.”

According to prosecutors, at least two financial professionals asked Balelo about accessing the account that Mizuhara was controlling. A financial adviser and accountant each told investigators that Balelo told them that Ohtani wanted to keep the account “private,” based on the information from Mizuhara. Another accountant told investigators that Mizuhara showed up alone to a meeting that they believed Ohtani was scheduled to attend. There, the accountant claims Mizuhara dismissed concerns about potential tax implications for Ohtani and that the player wanted it “kept private from everyone.”

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Saturday, 13 April 2024 19:09 (two weeks ago) link

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/13/business/shohei-ohtani-interpreter-details.html

In the clubhouse after the Los Angeles Dodgers won their season opener in Seoul last month, Shohei Ohtani’s longtime interpreter, Ippei Mizuhara, made a stunning admission to the team: He was a gambling addict, and Ohtani had paid his debts to a bookmaker.

Ohtani, who is not fluent in English, listened but failed to fully grasp what Mizuhara said. He knew enough to grow suspicious, however, and he wanted answers.

A couple of hours later, around midnight, Ohtani finally had the chance to pull Mizuhara into a conference room in the basement of the Fairmont Ambassador Hotel in Seoul.

With just the two of them there, Mizuhara leveled with his boss: He had accrued enormous debts to the bookmaker and had been stealing the baseball star’s money to pay them off.

In coming clean, though, Mizuhara made one last effort to protect himself from the law, according to two people familiar with the conversation, who asked for anonymity to discuss a private matter. He asked his patron to go along with the story that he had just told Ohtani’s teammates, his advisers and a reporter for ESPN who had made inquires about $4.5 million in wire transfers from Ohtani’s account to an illegal bookmaker in California.

Ohtani refused and called his agent, Nez Balelo, into the conference room. Balelo then had several other people dial in as they managed the crisis: a lawyer in Los Angeles; Matthew Hiltzik, a crisis communications executive in New York; and a new interpreter whom Ohtani’s inner circle could trust. Mizuhara’s wife also joined the meeting.

Shortly after, Ohtani’s advisers issued a statement to reporters, alleging that Ohtani was the victim of a multimillion-dollar theft. Soon headlines connecting Ohtani to illegal gambling spread around the world.

It was a story that would set off a dizzying three weeks, moving from South Korea to Los Angeles, from ballparks to hotels to airports, to meetings with lawyers and federal agents. At times, it seemed that baseball’s biggest star was in danger of being tainted by a gambling scandal, echoing painful episodes from the sport’s past. It culminated on Thursday when prosecutors charged Mizuhara with bank fraud and released a criminal complaint alleging a lavish embezzlement in which he stole $16 million from Ohtani, who they firmly stated was the victim in the case.

The formal charge and complaint were announced a day after The New York Times reported that Mizuhara and his lawyer, Michael Freedman, a former prosecutor who specializes in white-collar criminal defense, were negotiating a plea deal. On Friday, Mizuhara surrendered to law enforcement in Los Angeles and made an initial court appearance, wearing street clothes and shackles. He did not enter a plea, and was released on a $25,000 bond. The conditions of his release require him to submit to drug testing and seek treatment for a gambling addiction.

Freedman issued a statement on Friday saying Mizuhara “is continuing to cooperate with the legal process and is hopeful that he can reach an agreement with the government to resolve this case as quickly as possible so that he can take responsibility.” He added that Mizuhara apologized to Ohtani and the Dodgers and was “eager to seek treatment for his gambling.”

The trip to Seoul seemed like a triumphant moment for Major League Baseball. Ohtani’s emergence as a transcendent star in the United States, one whose on-field exploits evoked comparisons to Babe Ruth, had given the league fresh cultural relevance around the world. And now Ohtani and his new team, which signed him to a 10-year, $700 million contract in December, were in Asia to open a new season with two games against the San Diego Padres. Excitement could not have been higher.

But once the Mizuhara news broke, Major League Baseball realized it had a problem on its hands. It announced that it was investigating the matter. And the Los Angeles field offices of the Internal Revenue Service’s criminal division and the Department of Homeland Security uncharacteristically went public with news that they, too, had opened an inquiry. The saga of Pete Rose, the major leagues’ career hits leader, who was barred from baseball in the 1980s for betting on the sport, was on everyone’s mind.

In about 9,700 pages of his text exchanges with Ohtani, investigators found no mentions of sports betting.Credit...Lee Jin-Man/Associated Press
After the meeting at the hotel, the Dodgers promptly fired Mizuhara. He was soon on a plane back to Los Angeles, where homeland security agents met him at the airport. He refused to submit to an interview, but he gave the agents access to a gold mine of information that would prove crucial to their investigation: He signed a form giving his consent to search his cellphone.

Ohtani also flew back to Los Angeles under a cloud. When he arrived, he gave investigators access to his electronic devices, too.

Working with a Japanese linguist, investigators pored over about 9,700 pages of text messages between the two men and found no mentions of sports betting or any of the bookmakers Mizuhara had been dealing with.

Over two days this month, Ohtani met with investigators in Los Angeles — on one of the days he hit his first home run as a Dodger, hours after an interview with the agents — and described his relationship with Mizuhara, whom he first met in 2013 while playing professional baseball in Japan.

The Los Angeles Angels hired Mizuhara as Ohtani’s translator when Ohtani joined the team in 2018. But Ohtani also separately employed him as a “de facto manager and assistant,” according to the complaint. Mizuhara drove his boss to and from the ballpark and managed certain “business and personal matters” outside baseball.

In 2018, both men visited a bank in Arizona, where the Angels held spring training, and opened an account into which Ohtani’s paychecks could be deposited. For the next three years, Ohtani never once logged into the account online, according to prosecutors, and the money piled up.

Ohtani has many other accounts, of course — he earns more money from endorsements and business deals than he does from his lucrative baseball salary. But it was this account, solely for Ohtani’s baseball earnings, that Mizuhara would scheme to take control of and then, as he fell deeper into a gambling addiction, pilfer for years, according to prosecutors.

Mizuhara changed the settings of the account so alerts and confirmations of transactions would go to him, not Ohtani. Drawing on phone recordings obtained from the bank, prosecutors said Mizuhara had also impersonated Ohtani to gain the bank’s approval for certain large transactions. And whenever one of Ohtani’s other advisers — his agent, tax preparer, bookkeeper or financial adviser, all of whom were interviewed for the federal investigation — inquired about the account, Mizuhara told them that Ohtani preferred the account to remain private.

Between November 2021 and January this year, Mizuhara stole $16 million from the account to feed his “voracious appetite for illegal sports betting,” according to E. Martin Estrada, the U.S. attorney in Los Angeles.

Ohtani has been called many things over the past few years. The modern-day Ruth. A baseball monk. Japan’s most famous citizen. In the criminal complaint that the authorities released on Thursday he was identified simply as “Victim A.”

The complaint revealed text messages between Mizuhara and the bookmaker, who is also the subject of a federal investigation, as Mizuhara racked up losses and was repeatedly given increases to his credit limit — “bumps,” in the parlance of gamblers.

A text from Mizuhara in 2022 reads: “I’m terrible at this sport betting thing huh? Lol … Any chance u can bump me again?? As you know, you don’t have to worry about me not paying.”

While there is no evidence that Ohtani knew about the betting, the bookmaker knew of Mizuhara’s connection to Ohtani. Last November, the bookie was having trouble reaching Mizuhara and threatened to expose him to Ohtani, saying he knew where to find the baseball star.

In a text included in the complaint, the bookmaker wrote: “Hey Ippei, it’s 2 o’clock on Friday. I don’t know why you’re not returning my calls. I’m here in Newport Beach and I see [Victim A] walking his dog. I’m just gonna go up and talk to him and ask how I can get in touch with you since you’re not responding? Please call me back immediately.”

As Mizuhara fell deeper into debt, prosecutors say, he used $325,000 of Ohtani’s money at the beginning of this year to buy baseball cards online and had them shipped to the Dodgers clubhouse under a pseudonym. Agents found the cards — of Juan Soto, Yogi Berra and Ohtani, among others — in several briefcases when they searched Mizuhara’s car. Prosecutors said they believed he had planned to resell them.

This being a baseball story, the criminal complaint was stuffed with numbers:

19,000 bets.

$142,256,769.74 total winning bets.

$182,935,206.58 total losing bets.

Crucially, for Ohtani and for Major League Baseball, prosecutors said none of Mizuhara’s bets had been on baseball.

When news of the story broke in South Korea, Major League Baseball was alarmed by the shifting narratives, two people familiar with the matter said, and worried that Ohtani could somehow be entangled in a gambling scandal that had the potential to tarnish the entire sport.

Those worries dissipated a week later when Ohtani offered a detailed account to reporters at Dodger Stadium, saying Mizuhara stole from him and pledging to cooperate with any investigations. Baseball officials were doubtful, the people said, that Ohtani would make up such a story knowing that both the federal authorities and the league would investigate it. When the authorities charged Mizuhara and detailed the allegations against him, any remaining suspicions were cleared.

As for the Dodgers, they are leading their division early in a season that many fans will declare a failure if it does not end with a championship. Ohtani’s bat is heating up. Inside the clubhouse, players say Ohtani, without Mizuhara as a buffer, has made more of an effort to get to know his teammates.

“You know, the last couple of days, I think Shohei has been even more engaging with his teammates,” Dave Roberts, the Dodgers’ manager, told reporters after Ohtani addressed the matter for the news media in Los Angeles two weeks ago. “And I think there’s only upside with that.”

, Sunday, 14 April 2024 13:49 (two weeks ago) link

9700 pages of text messages between ohtani and mizuhara. i can't think of anybody i have 9700 pages of text messages with. maybe ilx if each of my posts was one page. even the ones that just say "lol".

, Sunday, 14 April 2024 13:50 (two weeks ago) link

Lonely guys just texting baout things

(•̪●) (carne asada), Sunday, 14 April 2024 13:58 (two weeks ago) link

Imagine being fortunate enough to be raised in a bilingual/bicultural household while also possessing a passing interest in baseball and armed with those 2 traits you sneakily get access to $183M (of which you lose $43M of but that's another story). That is some real "When you were partying, I studied the blade" shit.

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Sunday, 14 April 2024 14:16 (two weeks ago) link

Also this bookmaker is a real piece of work, his confidence thinking he's gonna get this $43M back before and then after he got taken down by the feds, just... lol. #IppeiMastermind

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Sunday, 14 April 2024 14:59 (two weeks ago) link

9700 pages of text messages between ohtani and mizuhara. i can't think of anybody i have 9700 pages of text messages with. maybe ilx if each of my posts was one page. even the ones that just say "lol".

― 龜, Sunday, April 14, 2024 6:50 AM (one hour ago)

also to consider, japanese (esp texts) is far more dense than english (~20% less input for equivalent meaning/conveyance)... probably 12k pages in english (relatively)?

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Sunday, 14 April 2024 15:08 (two weeks ago) link

What bothers me about this:

1. it seems that if Bowyer was an illegal bookie in California, none of the agreements to place bets would be enforceable contracts. Any such contracts would be void as illegal and Ippei shouldn't have been liable to pay his "losses." Of course we'll never know if Ippei could have cashed out his "winnings" because of the house edge. Which makes it essentially a scam due to Ippei's apparent ignorance of the law.

2. I haven't seen any mention of the terms of Ohtani's employment or manager agreement with Ippei. Customary personal or business managers work on percentage. 10 to 20%. So you see losing $16m at this level is a lot less than 10% of a contract worth $700m. Manager is a different role than financial advisor who makes maybe .5 to 1% of the investment portfolio. Ok so maybe Ippei's compensation wasn't $70m. Then what was it?

3. California law heavily favors employees versus employers on almost every dispute. So while it seems Ippei's real mistake was lying to banks about being not who he said he was, it bothers me that someone so integral to the success of a mega high net worth talent is in a position where he needs this kind of money or is developing this kind of addiction. It's a shame when someone who is part of a talent coming up gets used and discarded. It's hard for me at this time to see this as a character flaw of Ippei for just the amounts of money involved because of what the amounts for a manager customarily are. The standard for when a person is considered an employee is when the employer "permits or suffers" a person to perform services of value. Placing a value on those services could be subject to dispute. If only Ippei had never lied to the banks and to Ohtani this could have been avoided.

4. On the other hand I can see a cynical motivation from other agents and commission takers for letting this happen to Ippei. One less intermediary and mouth to feed. So the weird thing is how CAA and Ippei first tried to handle this themselves with press releases. What a mess.

So in conclusion I don't like to demonize Ippei without finding out what the deal actually was. I mean lying over the mails and wires is bad, I get it, all the pieces matter. I just feel like the shackles etc. are kind of unnecessary. He got involved with professional sharks, legal and illegal and was just chum in the water due to lack of knowledge. The illegal bookie in California seems like the real villian here but make no mistake this would happen to benefit CAA and MLB to scapegoat Ippei as well.

#freeippei #freeshermanmccoy

felicity, Monday, 15 April 2024 01:44 (two weeks ago) link

What

Tldr: you shouldn't lie to banks or your employer or have an illegal gambling addiction

But also

Rich people shouldn't be stupidly cheap when paying people who work for them. Many rich people problems can be avoided by paying people what their work is worth. Not saying that's what happened here, just that I haven't seen that's not what happened.

The end.

felicity, Monday, 15 April 2024 02:05 (two weeks ago) link

Not saying that's what happened here, just that I haven't seen that's not what happened.

That....seeeems like license to believe anything, any old thing. Why speculate?

Ippei's on a bummer now (WmC), Monday, 15 April 2024 02:10 (two weeks ago) link

I think because of what I know about employment law and entertainment law, and I keep seeing these takes that want to paint Ippei as the total villain. I think people don't understand the work it takes behind the scenes to make overnight success happen over a period of years.

Baseball players are entertainers in the end. I personally prefer to see a happy story of everyone succeeding as a team. I think social media simplifies things to a point where people are wrongly overconfident about making snap judgments and ruining people's reputations and I had a lot more questions here about what really happened then some of the takes I've seen online.

felicity, Monday, 15 April 2024 02:17 (two weeks ago) link

And it's not license to believe in "anything." I wrote an extremely long detailed post laying out the particular pieces that were missing. If you want to take my tldr out of context that could seem like anything, but then why post at all if any piece could be taken out of context at any time.

felicity, Monday, 15 April 2024 02:19 (two weeks ago) link

I made a tasteless Parasite joke upthread but after reading f.'s posts I can see how it may indeed apply here...

...also "arbitration" ;-)

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Monday, 15 April 2024 03:11 (two weeks ago) link

Exactly! Tbh I hadn't thought of the employment law angle until you mentioned Ippei's salary and "arbitration" a few weeks back. It has been bothering me ever since.

Parasite is a good reference. And the culture of keeping up and desperation portrayed in Squid Game. There's something so unnecessary here, like this whole Caught Stealing situation should never have happened.

felicity, Monday, 15 April 2024 03:54 (two weeks ago) link

f., I would like to declare that I/we are extremely fortunate to have someone of your background, experience and wisdom posting on this silly board.

I may have missed the opportunity to tell you but I always appreciate you!

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Monday, 15 April 2024 04:00 (two weeks ago) link

You're too kind but it's appreciated nonetheless.

May all your tacos come in 10s :)

felicity, Monday, 15 April 2024 04:06 (two weeks ago) link

ah... such simpler times...

!!!!! Just realized I met Shohei's translator a long time ago when he was a fresh faced Red Sox employee... let me go dig up a picture lol.

― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Friday, December 8, 2023 3:44 PM (four months ago)

You met Ippei? Wow!

― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Friday, December 8, 2023 3:47 PM (four months ago)

I can't find it (my flickr account is now paywalled?). I sat next to him and Hideki Okajima at a sushi bar in SF when the Red Sox were in town to face the A's.

― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Friday, December 8, 2023 3:55 PM (four months ago)

We've since learned that Ippei was only Okajima's translator for his short (and unfruitful) Spring Training stint with the Yankees which means the interpreter I met when Okajima was with the Red Sox was Ryo Shinkawa...

At any rate, here is a picture of Okajima's signature on MY translator lol, my trusty Sharp PW-SH4 which was a constant companion in my oversees biz journeys when an interpreter was unavailable.

https://i.imgur.com/jPik9IE.png

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 21:35 (two weeks ago) link

You met Ippei? Wow!

― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Friday, December 8, 2023 3:47 PM (four months ago)

lmaooooo

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 21:38 (two weeks ago) link

We are all Ippei

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 21:43 (two weeks ago) link

Wrong Ippei address.

btw I don't think flickr is paywalled. But I seem to remember they did do something funky a while back that required going in and adjusting settings if you want any of your photos to be public.

felicity, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 21:49 (two weeks ago) link

Yeah, I couldn't find that pic when I first searched flickr but I was able to find it when I searched by year and location: 2008 @ Sakana Sushi

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 21:59 (two weeks ago) link

I saw Okajima pitch (LOOGy) the following year @ Fenway...

YOUR baseball photos thread

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 22:10 (two weeks ago) link

450ft
Hardest hit ball by ohtani so far
Hardest hit ball in 2024
Hardest hit ball by a Dodger in the statcast era
Just a bonkers bomb

https://www.reddit.com/r/baseball/s/OPXxm8nszD

H.P, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 02:08 (one week ago) link

I know his HR is the big story, but (from Posnanski):

In case you haven’t been staying up for West Coast games, Shohei Ohtani is hitting .364/.430/.677 with 11 doubles in 25 games. As great as Ohtani has been, he’s never been much of a doubles hitter; his career high in doubles was 30 in 2022.

As longtime readers know, I spent a lot of time rooting for someone to hit 60 doubles in a season. It has not happened since 1936. Freddie Freeman ALMOST did it last year (he finished with 59), and Nick Castellanos ALMOST did it in 2019 (he finished with 58), so the dream goes on.

If Shohei Ohtani is the guy who challenges for 60 doubles this year, I might just explode in happiness.

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 18:40 (one week ago) link

Yeah, he's hitting 99% of his balls to right field (Source: eye test) and if they're a little further to the right than to the middle of right field, they end up doubles. Happens a lot.

H.P, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 22:34 (one week ago) link

make it 13 doubles in 26

H.P, Thursday, 25 April 2024 00:54 (one week ago) link

On pace for 81. Easy.

H.P, Thursday, 25 April 2024 00:55 (one week ago) link

Wtf 14 in 26. He gets a double in the 8th, and the 9th!

H.P, Thursday, 25 April 2024 01:18 (one week ago) link

Stalin comparison is lol but also, that’s the worst Ohtani drawing! Strange when the visual is such a huge part of his appeal.

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Friday, 26 April 2024 17:56 (six days ago) link

Ohtani’s on pace for 230 hits #sss

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 27 April 2024 04:33 (five days ago) link

Shohei Ohtani was booed before and after his 1st AB at Rogers Centre. The fans acted like jilted lovers, seeing Ohtani in #Dodgers blue. After he responded w/ a HR, his teammates greeted him in the dugout with more boos. "He got a big kick out of that.”https://t.co/9WOdwssL3X

— Bill Plunkett (@billplunkettocr) April 27, 2024

H.P, Saturday, 27 April 2024 20:05 (five days ago) link

They're still mad about the #ohtaniplane

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Saturday, 27 April 2024 23:37 (five days ago) link

I just love the idea of the dugout booing ohtani after all of his hits. "Booooooo stop making us look bad!"

H.P, Saturday, 27 April 2024 23:41 (five days ago) link

dodgers are in pittsburgh the first week of june; hope the fans boo him for not signing with the pirates

mookieproof, Sunday, 28 April 2024 00:28 (four days ago) link

Lol

H.P, Sunday, 28 April 2024 00:48 (four days ago) link

changed my DN

Mrs. Ippei (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 20:27 (yesterday) link

brilliant, kudos

Ippei's on a bummer now (WmC), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 20:54 (yesterday) link


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