another maniacal Armond White review, this time "Fahrenheit 9/11"

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i mean, unless he's just trying to be a contrarian prick.

da croupier, Thursday, 13 August 2009 16:38 (fourteen years ago) link

"In the real world hamburgers matter!"

Schwartzbaum presented herself as the masthead of a movement among middle-echelon, middle-brow journalists who value greasy food and obesity over everything and who have wrecked American gastronomical habits.

Anatomy of a Morbius (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 August 2009 16:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Apparently Armond doesn't subscribe to Netflix.

He would argue that you can't review a film you haven't seen on a theater screen, which is an ideal I subscribe to (that is not practicable for all but a few people).

I think saying that "Oscars matter" sentence OUT LOUD and getting something short of a punch is good fortune.

Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 August 2009 19:35 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah i forgot--it's not like they were at a meeting of professional film critics.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 13 August 2009 19:36 (fourteen years ago) link

seeing a lot of movies in the theater is really hard if not impossible b/c of terrible distributing of smaller films, and yet, asking for screeners to give these films their due means you're "in bed with hollywood"?

goole, Thursday, 13 August 2009 19:39 (fourteen years ago) link

that's bullshit, morbs. if i was in a meeting and someone said that, you can just have a lol and debate their weird point (if she even said that, and her point was in fact weird) instead of assuming the worst in people. guy seems like a sociopath.

omar little, Thursday, 13 August 2009 19:40 (fourteen years ago) link

anyway if armond white really feels that way about theater screens i wonder why he bothers to write up essays for criterion on occasion, because only a fuckin philistine would watch the movie on a small screen.

omar little, Thursday, 13 August 2009 19:41 (fourteen years ago) link

goole: yes, bcz they are promotional devices geared at awards/promotion. That's his position.

srsly, I wouldn't frame it that way, but the serious cinema conversation from November thru Oscars was not utterly monopolized by the Trophy Carousel 30, 20, even 10 years ago. It makes me ill.

well, in the case of CCs, you are NOT going to see the films any other way unless you live near a rep venue.

JOEKS re the punching.

Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 August 2009 19:44 (fourteen years ago) link

don't hit me, dogg!

omar little, Thursday, 13 August 2009 19:44 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah well that's a dumb position. who gives a shit what they're geared at, if they're you're only way of seeing a film, watch it. any individual film print is basically a tool to get 9.50 out of me anyway, so what

goole, Thursday, 13 August 2009 19:47 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm a lover, not a sociopath. xp

Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 August 2009 19:48 (fourteen years ago) link

ha, Lisa Schwarzbaum is horrible tho

velko, Thursday, 13 August 2009 19:50 (fourteen years ago) link

Armond has gone on the record basically saying you can not be a cinephile (in America, at any rate) unless you live in New York.

― sir-mounter (Eric H.), Thursday, August 13, 2009 12:18 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

did any of u guys see that documentary about cinephiles in new york - Cinemania, i think? anyway AW reminds me of the crazy broad from that movie

a narwhal done gored my sister nell (cankles), Thursday, 13 August 2009 19:53 (fourteen years ago) link

always wanted to see that movie!
maybe i'll go hunt for it

heavin' flho (s1ocki), Thursday, 13 August 2009 19:57 (fourteen years ago) link

acc to James Redd, that "crazy broad" just died.

Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 August 2009 19:58 (fourteen years ago) link

Was it Orly Taitz?

Alex in SF, Thursday, 13 August 2009 19:59 (fourteen years ago) link

We should a RIP thread.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 13 August 2009 19:59 (fourteen years ago) link

everyone in it was pretty depressing but she was the least grounded, most insane seeming one... that poor-ass monster.

a narwhal done gored my sister nell (cankles), Thursday, 13 August 2009 20:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Is it worth watching? Is she the really old with the glasses?

Alex in SF, Thursday, 13 August 2009 20:09 (fourteen years ago) link

old lady

Alex in SF, Thursday, 13 August 2009 20:10 (fourteen years ago) link

no, she wasn't that old iirc, just kinda middle aged and wiry catlady-ish... when they show her apartment though it's terrifying. she had a thing about keeping all her ticket stubs, and there's a story about when she physically attacked an usher who dared to tear her stub in half

a narwhal done gored my sister nell (cankles), Thursday, 13 August 2009 20:12 (fourteen years ago) link

Jesus that's bonkers.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 13 August 2009 20:12 (fourteen years ago) link

Roberta Hill, a former mail carrier in her early 60's, lives in an apartment crammed with promotional junk and bric-a-brac, including the ticket stubs for every movie she attends. (She shuns television.) Hot tempered and imperious, she was banned from the Museum of Modern Art after attacking an usher who unwittingly ripped her stub in half.

velko, Thursday, 13 August 2009 20:13 (fourteen years ago) link

these people sound sad and depressing.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 13 August 2009 20:13 (fourteen years ago) link

really does kinda sound like AW tho

heavin' flho (s1ocki), Thursday, 13 August 2009 20:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Armond would have just called the usher a cunt and then written a blog post bad-mouthing ushers in general for wrecking the currents of museum culture though.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 13 August 2009 20:30 (fourteen years ago) link

she reminded me a lot of my mom... hit a lil 2 close 2 home imo

a narwhal done gored my sister nell (cankles), Thursday, 13 August 2009 20:54 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah i saw her at a lot of screenings. as i related on the film snob thread i vividly remember her loudly kvetching about the air conditioning at anthology before a screening

The Collected Works of Fun Fun (donna rouge), Thursday, 13 August 2009 20:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Ebert: Not In Defense of Armond White

The Devil's Avocado (Gukbe), Friday, 14 August 2009 12:36 (fourteen years ago) link

that's funny but im not sure Ebert is really the paragon of good taste (though i often enjoy his reviews).

That picture:
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/1897/armondwhiteisntinsane.jpg

ryan, Friday, 14 August 2009 14:27 (fourteen years ago) link

id say the "good movies" column is much more damning than the "bad movies" column. Rise of the Silver Surfer? ugh.

ryan, Friday, 14 August 2009 14:29 (fourteen years ago) link

That good list is WAY more selective than is accurate.

sir-mounter (Eric H.), Friday, 14 August 2009 14:39 (fourteen years ago) link

btw go see You, the Living

Ebert asks some good questions in there.

Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Friday, 14 August 2009 14:40 (fourteen years ago) link

you the living is amazing. i dont think it's even available on dvd in the states (or canada for that matter). songs from the second floor is out of print too. this is an injustice imo

heavin' flho (s1ocki), Friday, 14 August 2009 14:50 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost Sorry, not on local radar. Apparently even the Walker feels it more important to run a retrospective of the Coen brothers.

sir-mounter (Eric H.), Friday, 14 August 2009 14:50 (fourteen years ago) link

I suppose I could check for torrentz, et al ...

sir-mounter (Eric H.), Friday, 14 August 2009 14:51 (fourteen years ago) link

you should see songs first if poss

heavin' flho (s1ocki), Friday, 14 August 2009 14:56 (fourteen years ago) link

id say the "good movies" column is much more damning than the "bad movies" column. Rise of the Silver Surfer? ugh.

it's true that armond's one reliable use is that if you happen to hate some movie lots of other people love, his predictable trashing of it can give a certain amount of satisfaction. but it always feels like a cheap thrill.

flying squid attack (tipsy mothra), Friday, 14 August 2009 15:01 (fourteen years ago) link

It will be interesting to see which of his '00s hobby horses make it onto his 2012 S&S list a la A.I. in '02.

sir-mounter (Eric H.), Friday, 14 August 2009 15:03 (fourteen years ago) link

Ebert asks some good questions in there.

yeah, i love the big about "pre-fans" who are so totally in the tank for a movie they haven't even seen yet. those people always weird me out.

some dude, Friday, 14 August 2009 15:03 (fourteen years ago) link

big=bit

some dude, Friday, 14 August 2009 15:03 (fourteen years ago) link

fer sher.

heavin' flho (s1ocki), Friday, 14 August 2009 15:09 (fourteen years ago) link

i havent read any fanboy reaction but excoriating AW for bringing up apartheid in the D9 review is headinhands.jpg

heavin' flho (s1ocki), Friday, 14 August 2009 15:10 (fourteen years ago) link

u know if i was trying to think of "people who i would be more likely to disagree with than armond white" the aint it cool news brigade would be pretty high up on that list

max, Friday, 14 August 2009 15:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Too true.

Alex in SF, Friday, 14 August 2009 15:37 (fourteen years ago) link

You the Living is just getting theatrical engagements in the US; I saw it Yuesday at Film Forum on the last day of a 2-week run.

When mine was the first pan of "Humpday" to go up on RT, some "user" emailed me "Thanks for ruining the perfect score."

Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Friday, 14 August 2009 16:06 (fourteen years ago) link

Yuesday, how fitting. ;)

Alex in SF, Friday, 14 August 2009 16:07 (fourteen years ago) link

should have emailed back "dealwithitdog.gif"

omar little, Friday, 14 August 2009 16:08 (fourteen years ago) link

are there really people who care about a perfect score on rotten tomatoes. that is very bizarre!

ryan, Friday, 14 August 2009 16:15 (fourteen years ago) link

imo having the lowest-rated review on something like metacritic or rotten tomatoes is a good thing more often than not -- lotta times i actively seek out the lowest scores just to see what they have to say

some dude, Friday, 14 August 2009 16:16 (fourteen years ago) link


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