Ladies and gentlemen....the 1990s ILX SINGLES POLL RESULTS

I don't get the comments about the US rock vote. Hardly any US rock was even nominated, was it? I mean, normally for any poll like this you'd have plenty of Soundgarden and Pearl Jam and Jane's and Metallica, not to mention hits like "No Rain". Was Fugazi nominated?

Do Saint Etienne sound like the Cardigans?

NB MIR I think it might have more to do with how perceive the relative worth of hip-hop and UK weiner-pop than with the actual mathematical proportions of their representations.

Is "Lovefool" tweepop? I thought Cub was tweepop.

Every time that I look in the mirror
All these lines on my face getting clearer
The past is gone
It went by like dusk to dawn
Isn't that the way
Everybody's got their dues in life to pay

I know nobody knows
Where it comes and where it goes
I know it's everybody's sin
You got to lose to know how to win

Half my life's in books' written pages
Live and learn from fools and from sages
You know it's true
All the things come back to you

Sing with me sing for the years
Sing for the laughter and sing for the tears
Sing with me if it's just for today
Maybe tomorrow the good Lord will take you away

Sing with me sing for my year
Sing for my laughter and sing for my tear
Sing with me if it's just for today
Maybe tomorrow the good Lord will take you away

Dream on dream on dream on
Dream yourself a dream come true
Dream on dream on dream on
Dream until your dream comes true
Dream on dream on dream on dream on
Dream on dream on dream on yeah

Sing with me sing for my year
Sing for my laughter and sing for my tear
Sing with me if it's just for today
Maybe tomorrow the good Lord will take you away

Sing with me sing for my year
Sing for my laughter and sing for my tear
Sing with me if it's just for today
Maybe tomorrow the good Lord will take you away

Dream on dream on dream on
Dream yourself a dream come true
Dream on dream on dream on
Dream until your dream comes true
Dream on dream on dream on dream on
Dream on dream on dream on yeah

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dj: I'm sure lots of Americans voted for those artists, too.

If I remember correctly, St. Etienne got The Cardigans producer for their 4th album, Good Humor. And I guess in that particular album they do sound a bit like The Cardigans.

Saint Etienne - C/D?

maybe british music was better in the 90's. gasp.

And that's just bullshit.

their "alternative rock" music has held up better than american rock has.

all that america has, in my opinion, is rap and hip hop.

i am not a huge rap/hip hop person, but i did still vote for 5 tracks, one at number 2.

also, england had trip-hop

But isn't Endtroducing the best trip-hop album ever made by a longshot?

2xpost Private Press pwns it.

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(ok this is a total tangent if people want to discuss this further some DJ shadow thread should probably be revived)

I love Portishead.

"Western Eyes" > "Sour Times" > "All Mine"

On a sidenote, WHO the FUCK would EVER vote for a piece of generic American emoesque indie-rock crap like "Web in Front"!?!?

Here's something interesting. When all the new european critics was going nuts over eurodance in the mid 90s, a DJ named screw was redefining hip-hop in Houston and music today outside of Houston is just beginning to feel its effects. I'm not hugely familiar w/ miami bass, but that shit was going on at the same time as revolutionary NYC hip-hop that already gets well-deserved props.

I'm not saying that european music from this period sucks - in fact, I've bought some st. etienne and pulp specifically because of Scott PL's recommendations in the past. And I've discovered lots of european dance music that I like because of ILM and Simon Reynold's generation ecstasy.

But seriously, this myth about european music in the early 90s somehow being "better" or "more progressive" than its American counterparts is bullshit; this was a fertile period in the U.S. in a lot of different ways, and there is tons of u.s. music from the 90s that is not represented in this poll. Not that I'm surprised- obviously, this board is british based (originally) and its not like i expected miami bass and southern hip-hop (geto boys excepted) to get nods. But yo - this american-music-sucks thing about the early 90s is some crazy talk.

namean?

i have heard plenty of early 90's rap and none of it really resonated with me. it is ok, but gritty new york hip hop is just more to my liking. i downloaded 'mind playing tricks on me' when the nominations were put out because there was some buzz here about it. it didnt do anything for me. maybe i had to listen to it back when it was put out, but truthfully, if i dont like it now, i am not putting it on the list. i really liked soundgarden in the 90's, but now i find them to be annoying so therefore i didnt vote for them.

i voted for what i liked. i also stand by the idea that the european songs/albums that are listed have held up better than the stuff that did not make the list.

you may disagree, but you really arent going to convince me or anyone.

And I had already said: But seriously, this myth about european music in the early 90s somehow being "better" or "more progressive" than its American counterparts is bullshit;

And trying to say its somehow "aged" better is fucking stupid, just because Pulp resonated with you back when you were a little kid who called his mom "mum" and his pants "knickers" doesn't mean that the geto boys didn't resonate with a lot of other people.

And that's my criticism of this list, why I don't really feel it. Holding those bands up as the pentultimate achievement of the 90s reeks of whitewashing.

Now obviously this is a poll so you know, whatever - what people like is what people like. But to suggest that this period of british music was inherently "better" or "more progressive" than its counterparts in america is bullshit. I mean, I'm not saying hip-hop was more important, I'm saying that at the very least it is equally as important. If you hadn't even heard "Mind Playing Tricks" until now, how can you know that Euro music has "aged" better? You clearly haven't really engaged with American music too much anyway.

And I "gritty new york hip-hop" fits under the column of "early 90s rap". And also mid 90s, and late 90s, and even now to a degree (although much less so)

the british music of the 90's SOUNDS BETTER TO ME THAN AMERICAN MUSIC OF THE SAME PERIOD. it has held up better to my ears and to the ears most of the people on this message board it seems (although the top twenty will probably make your hissy fit seem completely ridiculous because there isnt a whole lot of british hits left to be listed).

i listened to a lot of alternative rock in the 90's. i also listened to some rap. but the problem is that mtv and the radio were my only mediums for music since i wasnt old enough to be buying music. i am sorry if that doesnt meet your expectations. i am sorry i wasnt there to "experience" it when it happened. i only know so much. you like rap, i like scarfpop. i appreciate rap for what it is and have tried to like it on a higher level, but it just isnt happening. i hope you have done the same with the stuff on my singles list. i just think its ridiculous for you to be so righteous about your music tastes to call an entire message board out about it.

And I never questioned your taste you can like whatever you like.
I'm not calling anyone out.

I'm just saying that I think its weird how much british music from this period ppl are throwing up here.

And if you want to turn this into "I'm right that this period was better for the british music because most people here agree" then I'll just turn around and point to how little effect Pulp had on American radio and how little their influence is being felt in today's american pop music (when compared with screw or miami bass)

No one is questioning your right to like whatever you like. Its just a list of music and I have a right to say that I wish there were more people on ILM representing for (insert artist here).