"Uncool" music you dig. Out with it!

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i was watching these guys last night. talk about fucked up looking. 1973! what a bunch of weirdos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrdqX_auyPc

scott seward, Friday, 22 March 2024 17:34 (one month ago) link

having said that about poppy and tuneful i did love the first ramones album when i was a little kid and i totally saw them as PUNK. they scared me a little.

scott seward, Friday, 22 March 2024 17:35 (one month ago) link

punk schmunk

Left, Friday, 22 March 2024 17:38 (one month ago) link

I don't know. The early Clash sound much more like how punk developed than the Pistols.

Tom D (the first British Asian ILXor) (Tom D.), Friday, 22 March 2024 17:39 (one month ago) link

but the first time i heard sex pistols - on 8-track no less - i was totally like what the fuck is this holy shit. i had no idea what to make of it. my little brain couldn't comprehend it at the time. it was just...noise? i never felt that way about the clash. i really loved the clash album covers.

scott seward, Friday, 22 March 2024 17:40 (one month ago) link

i do love tuneful too. buzzcocks are probably may fave first wave band. and the damned aren't far behind. sometimes i think there isn't anything more beautiful in life than "new rose" and "neat neat neat".

scott seward, Friday, 22 March 2024 17:42 (one month ago) link

(i got corrupted later though by crass and flux and discharge and subhumans and rudimentary peni. my heart will always belong to them. they did try to teach me to hate the clash. but i only half listened. i could make up my own mind thank you very much.)

scott seward, Friday, 22 March 2024 17:44 (one month ago) link

afaict there was never any consensus on what this word/movement/genre was about and it's been like 50 years and I hoped we were over it

it's just the scuzzier younger brother of 60s counterculture although punks are oddly resistant to acknowledging this fact

I worked backwards through US hardcore and UK anarchopunk so when I got to the 70s stuff it just sounded like rock music to me

Left, Friday, 22 March 2024 17:45 (one month ago) link

maybe the priming I had from crass et al meant I had no more expectations of the clash than I did of springsteen or whoever

Left, Friday, 22 March 2024 17:46 (one month ago) link

I was lucky and didn't hear the Sex Pistols at all until sometime in the mid-2000s. When I did, I thought they were terrible, and have never changed my mind. Other than the Clash, my experience of punk as a teenager was the Dead Kennedys and Black Flag and Flipper, and a compilation of weirdo electronic art-punk stuff called Red Spot with Minimal Man, Jed Speare, Fried Abortions and a bunch of bands like that. And then sometime in junior high I heard the Cramps' Bad Music For Bad People and that was obviously the greatest thing ever.

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Friday, 22 March 2024 17:46 (one month ago) link

My first exposure to punk (as a kid) was Repo Man, the movie and soundtrack, which was one of the first tapes I owned.

let’s get intertwined (morrisp), Friday, 22 March 2024 17:49 (one month ago) link

mine was sk8er boi

Left, Friday, 22 March 2024 17:51 (one month ago) link

In early 80s Southern California, when I was growing up, punk was definitely still a big thing. People with mohawks and torn denim jackets held together with safety pins, wearing spiked dog collars etc. In my mind, it was primarily about a look and an attitude and only secondarily about a style of music. The important thing was a general aggressive vibe against authority and not giving a shit. If the music was fast and loud and the singer was sneering and shouting, it was punk.

o. nate, Friday, 22 March 2024 18:35 (one month ago) link

I will die for Swedish dbeat. If you were Scandinavian and pacifist/vegan/antifa in the 80s, chances are your punk band is brutal and electrifying af

brimstead, Friday, 22 March 2024 18:37 (one month ago) link

In early 80s Southern California, when I was growing up, punk was definitely still a big thing. People with mohawks and torn denim jackets held together with safety pins, wearing spiked dog collars etc. In my mind, it was primarily about a look and an attitude and only secondarily about a style of music. The important thing was a general aggressive vibe against authority and not giving a shit. If the music was fast and loud and the singer was sneering and shouting, it was punk.

― o. nate, Friday, March 22, 2024 11:35 AM (nine minutes ago)

Always loved that Black Flag (up until Rollins), Minutemen, Circle Jerks et al always looked (and sounded!) absolutely disconnected from any punk fashion imported from London/NYC.

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Friday, 22 March 2024 18:49 (one month ago) link

iirc there's a bit Julian Cope's Head On where he talks about him and the Teardrop Explodes going to New York for the first time and the anglophile NY punks receiving them with great excitement, but then being embarrassed to find out Cope and company were still calling each other "man" and using other non-punk slang, and Cope being surprised when they take him aside to explain that it's not cool to do that anymore, and how Liverpool was kind of simultaneously out of the loop of what was considered cool and punk compared to NY, while also being defining what was cool for these anglophile Americans

soref, Friday, 22 March 2024 19:09 (one month ago) link

brimstead, what's the best swedish dbeat to check out?

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Friday, 22 March 2024 19:18 (one month ago) link

I was listening to Totalitär yesterday, and that's not a bad place to start tbh

Colonel Poo, Friday, 22 March 2024 19:21 (one month ago) link

Thanks, will check it out!

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Friday, 22 March 2024 19:28 (one month ago) link

Mob47, asocial, crude ss, Riistetyt are some of my fav bands, the latter is from Finland tho..

modern bands, I like Dk7, destruct, physique, but I defer to colonel poo who knows way more I think!

brimstead, Friday, 22 March 2024 20:12 (one month ago) link

D7Y not DK7 lol. This record

https://www.discogs.com/master/1534066-D7Y-D7Y

brimstead, Friday, 22 March 2024 20:14 (one month ago) link

those are all great picks

Colonel Poo, Friday, 22 March 2024 20:30 (one month ago) link

Oh ffs ANTI CIMEX

brimstead, Friday, 22 March 2024 20:34 (one month ago) link

Toy Dolls was the first punk band I ever saw, I think I saw Meat Loaf in the same week

I saw three hippies saving a whale (Matt #2), Friday, 22 March 2024 20:44 (one month ago) link

Remembered after referring to them in the prog thread, that hands down the least cool music I'm into is Marillion. I even like the Hogarth albums, although it's been diminishing returns post-Marbles.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 24 March 2024 01:04 (one month ago) link

if you like hardcore punk, i made a 1980-1984 hardcore playlist on Youtube. it is free to the public at large. plenty of good euro/swedish stuff on it. #diy

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLE1-7P1reTFgTJcv2kWOAoUr3t4distfZ

scott seward, Sunday, 24 March 2024 01:25 (one month ago) link

then you can listen to my french hardcore techno playlist for the double whammy of bpm mayhem.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLE1-7P1reTFiWlUEb5uz-w_VmmGxgf0WE

scott seward, Sunday, 24 March 2024 01:28 (one month ago) link

XXXP - I was reading the thread and thinking that Marillion probably wins this for me, I liked them at the time when I was a youth but I can't listen to much of the Fish era nowadays as the lyrics and delivery are so cringe, I still quite like the Hogarth records though, and yeah after Marbles it's been a bit meh.

Maresn3st, Sunday, 24 March 2024 12:39 (one month ago) link


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