Yippee-IA, Motherf***ers! IRRATIONALLY ANGRY PT. 2: Irrationally Angrier

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In the US school system, do you get lessons on history around the world? Like WW2, ancient civilizations, French Revolution, Russian Revolution? In Brazil, we'd always have 2 different teachers, one for 'World History' and the other for just Brazil. Sometimes it was hard to tie the 2 togethers...

Also, BR history we did try to get as close to the end of the 1960s/1970s Military Dictatorship (we had others, that's why I have the year there), and some political reform things (like the 1988 Constitutional reform), but I feel we do lose a bit in looking at other details, like trying to explain our external debt, or our economical situation in the 80s with hyper inflation. It also had nothing on the strikes done by the steel workers in SP (where Lula rose to prominence)

― fpsa, Monday, March 18, 2024 12:18 PM (forty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

We learned some pretty basic world history, certainly ancient civilizations, world religions, medieval europe, crusades, industrial revolution, wwi and wwii, etc. A massive amount was left out and there was definitely a failure to tie US and world history together well. I don't recall covering the Russian Revolution at all. My US history experience wasn't terrible but it kind of stopped at the Vietnam War even though it was already the late 90s.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 18 March 2024 18:04 (one month ago) link

I recently discovered this little fast casual italian place by my office (run by an actual Italian dude from Italy) with surprisingly good food, but it has all these weird quirks that irritate me. First, there isn't enough light inside so it always looks closed even when it's open. Second, the menu is behind you when you're facing the ordering counter, which is very awkward. And there's just something awkward and off about the place, the staff, the ordering process.

Today was my third time and I ordered "Vegetables Parmigiana" off the pasta menu, which I know isn't like a traditional Italian dish but it sounded pretty good. When I went to pick it up, I asked if the pasta was ready, and the woman said "It's not pasta, it's just grilled vegetables." The dish is literally on the pasta menu, and every single other item on the pasta menu is, you know, pasta, and there is no indication that it doesn't have pasta (nor does every other pasta dish expressly state that it includes pasta, because, you know, it's the pasta menu).

To be fair to them, I raised this and they offered to add some penne pasta without any argument about it. Still weird.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 17:51 (one month ago) link

that is weird

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 17:56 (one month ago) link

Every so often you run into these places where they really know how to cook food and are somewhat confused about running a food business. I keep wondering if maybe the concept is more along the lines of something that works in Italy (notwithstanding pasta-less pasta) and not as well in a small US city, because it tends to be kind of empty in spite of the high quality of the food and lack of options around here. For example the atmosphere is closer to a Chipotle or a Chopt than a restaurant, but they sell beer and wine, but they close at 5pm so there's no dinner crowd. I don't think US office workers tend to have a drink at lunch unless they go to a proper restaurant.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 17:59 (one month ago) link

I know the type— there used to be a pretty good taco place here in Philly, which still has a dearth of good Mexican restaurants. Their hours were wonky and like the place you mention, they closed quite early but sold beer and wine. It could have been a perfect late-night bar/taco joint, but they couldn't figure it out. Meanwhile, the place was empty most days from 2-5p. They closed during the pandemic.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 21:38 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

I have been a canvasser, and know how difficult and shitty it is, but don’t fucking wave at me enthusiastically like I know you— this just makes me upset when I realize you are a stranger trying to sell me a cause

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 12 April 2024 15:48 (two weeks ago) link

Ugh, I have canvassed too, and I generally hate any false or disingenuous familiarity. Just be up front with me - you are asking for donations or signatures or trying to sell me something. It's your job. Don't tell me you were just chatting with my neighbor John to gain my trust or use some canned line that tries to hide the fact that you're doing what you're doing.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 15 April 2024 00:42 (one week ago) link

Also, canvassers for charity who want money but can't actually accept money, only take your bank details to charge you every month forever. Fuck off with that bullshit.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Monday, 15 April 2024 02:34 (one week ago) link

Exactly.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 15 April 2024 16:56 (one week ago) link

if i see one more person do that phony comparison thing on facebook when they want to talk about better ways to do things and how stupid everything is here...and yes everything is stupid here i get that - but when they say "well you know in finland they do your taxes for you and give you chocolates and you don't have to lift a finger and here its a draconian police state nightmare owned by H&R Block..." "oh in finland every child gets straight As and goes on to become a doctor and nobody pays for anything and here all your children are murdered and..." just fucking stop it. there are 330 million people in this fucking world-sized country that includes islands thousands of miles away. there are 5 million people in finland! there are more people in brooklyn + queens then all of finland. if all this country had to worry about was brooklyn + queens i'll bet the recycling pickups would be on time and the post office would get the letter from your brother in queens to your cousin in brooklyn. just shut your fucking finland hole. also, everyone in finland is the same. mostly. do you know how much easier it is to do stuff when everyone is from the same place and speaks the same language? they don't want your tired and poor there. it fucks with the numbers that idiots on facebook beat people over the head with. don't get me started.....

scott seward, Saturday, 20 April 2024 15:09 (one week ago) link

Not saying you're wrong exactly, but this is basically the argument conservatives offer up for "why socialism can't work in America"

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 20 April 2024 15:16 (one week ago) link

Going to start using “just shut your fucking Finland hole!!!”

Jeff, Saturday, 20 April 2024 15:20 (one week ago) link

i'm all for better solutions but adjusting for scale and degree of difficulty is something people never do. this country is just too fucking big. which is why i appreciate the land of Taxxachusetts that i live in. i've had free health care for 20 years!

scott seward, Saturday, 20 April 2024 15:23 (one week ago) link

thank you again, Mitt...

scott seward, Saturday, 20 April 2024 15:23 (one week ago) link

of course i had to have kids and a marginal business to get that free health care...which is stressful and has its own costs. but it was worth it in the end.

scott seward, Saturday, 20 April 2024 15:25 (one week ago) link

it is so much easier to do things when everybody in your country is born in the same place. like, way easier. homogeneousness also pretty big with conservatives. i'm sure most conservatives would love Finland!

scott seward, Saturday, 20 April 2024 15:32 (one week ago) link

I understand that homogeneity may be a barrier to getting things done. But not sure why the things that can't get done are the socialist things, and the things that can get done are capitalist things.

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 20 April 2024 15:37 (one week ago) link

things can get done. things do get done. like i said, i get free healthcare in a state with a much larger population than that of Finland. but on a national scale, its harder to get things done. because there are 50 countries in this country. if we were a tiny country with a tiny population, like....Finland, it would be much easier to get things done. every single state has different laws and statutes and regulations for businesses too. speaking of capitalism.

scott seward, Saturday, 20 April 2024 15:57 (one week ago) link

the ACA has helped a lot of people across the country. there is that at least.

scott seward, Saturday, 20 April 2024 16:00 (one week ago) link

but look we are getting off-topic. the IA is the blithe nature of a stupid FB post like "you know in Sweden...why can't we just do that.." without any mention of what the government is like here. i mean, have you seen them? it ain't ever gonna be sweden. i am totally moving to sweden....

scott seward, Saturday, 20 April 2024 16:14 (one week ago) link

I was in a long queue yesterday, the local onestop is also the post office now and if someone wants postal services then there is only one person on the shop tills. This guy in front was extremely fucking about and taking a long time to pay for a few items. Then he hands a lottery ticket and says can you just check this for me, there is probably nothing on it because I never have any luck.

I was fuming. This young slacker can't even check his own lottery tickets and now after making extra work for the stressed retail worker, now he's trying to give them his life story.

If that was me behind the counter I'd fake-tap the lottery machine and say nah there is nothing on it m8, every time. Save them all up for quite periods and see if I'd made any lazy bastard tax bonuses for myself.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 21 April 2024 10:58 (one week ago) link

I really don’t like it when people talk loudly in public

brimstead, Sunday, 21 April 2024 15:44 (one week ago) link


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