This is what pretty much every console upgrade will be from now on, imo, even the PS6. Most games do not require the advanced specs of even the base PS5. It's like an iPhone upgrade at this point.
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 18 March 2024 17:21 (one month ago) link
I think that's probably right. A lot of current chatter is wondering whether the PS6 specs will enable 60fps for GTAVI (for those that care), but given the PS5 underdelivered on those sorts of promises I can't imagine full faith in similar promises going forward. (Hell, given Rockstars's track record, GTAVI will probably be locked at 30fps, lol.)
There is still the occasional game where playing the PS4 version on PS5 reportedly works *better* than the native PS5 version; that's supposedly the case with Elden Ring, right? Other than that the biggest difference I see between PS4 and PS5 games is loading times and, I dunno, the amount of foliage or whatever. For that matter, some of the best looking games on the PS5 are essentially from the PS4 era, like TLOU2 (four years old) or Horizon Forbidden West (two years old). I'm not sure how much the latest Spidermans or God of War improve on their PS4 predecessors, either, not least because there was nothing wrong with the PS4 versions.
Anyway, I'd prefer Sony spends its money on games rather than systems. I'd hate for them to set in motion some sort of fait accompli, where an underselling system convinces them to shift focus from consoles to PCs.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 March 2024 18:59 (one month ago) link
Games definitely don't have to be visually state of the art or whatever but I find it pleasant to play newer games on newer hardware and I think that's one of the motivating factors for a reasonable subset of game developers and players
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 18 March 2024 20:45 (one month ago) link
Given that they don't sell PCs, I don't see that happening. The Playstation division is profitable, but it exists largely to help sell their home entertainment hardware. I think they'd offload or dissolve the Playstation unit before they'd shift to PC game development as their primary focus.
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 18 March 2024 20:49 (one month ago) link
I dunno, it all seems kind of precarious right now. Isn't Xbox/Microsoft kind of a shambles? And there have been so many game industry layoffs. The focus (and failure?) of games as a live service smells of cash flow desperation. Or maybe just greed, who knows.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 March 2024 22:12 (one month ago) link
every industry that creates entertainment is in shambles! the movie studios are going nuts cutting back their schedules and wondering why they aren’t making a ton of money. probably because people can’t attend movies that aren’t released or not even filmed!video games had some weird times with the pandemic both driving more gaming and diminishing the supply chain and no one’s figured out a balance
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 18 March 2024 23:06 (one month ago) link
There are enough games. I don't understand the problem. Everybody has a huge backlog of unplayed amazing games. Everybody could just stop releasing games for like 2 years, give everyone a chance to catch up, work on really good stuff. Same for movies and books. Enough! I'm looking at the Forgotten Novels thread and it's like, there's no way to enjoy everything that already exists anyway. Don't stop forever, just stop for like... a little bit. Breathe. It's fine!
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 March 2024 23:21 (one month ago) link
Most people just play Fortnite anyway
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 18 March 2024 23:28 (one month ago) link
Yes!
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 March 2024 23:33 (one month ago) link
I'd be fine with everybody putting a pause on releasing anything.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 March 2024 23:59 (one month ago) link
Well, GRR Martin should definitely finish up GoT before he croaks at least.
― octobeard, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 00:39 (one month ago) link
Though if he dedicates himself to developing the lore for all future From Soft games I'd be cool with that.
― octobeard, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 00:40 (one month ago) link
"developing"
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 00:43 (one month ago) link
If gta 6 is locked at 30 fps I will cry
― calstars, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 00:43 (one month ago) link
lol that’d be good for us but everything is a huge engine of market-facing stock, unfortunately. I guess Sony could go all-in on library and indie game stuff for a year but they’d still have to be pumping money into things behind the scenes or we get nothing in the next few years. these things don’t immaculately spring from the forehead of PS5
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 03:34 (one month ago) link
also I am heading calstars’ copy is locked at 24fps for the cinema
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 03:35 (one month ago) link
That’s what I mean, just keep workin away at idk Gran Turismo 18 or whatever and give us a couple of years to 100% Disco Elysium
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 07:35 (one month ago) link
I like this line of thinking Tracer, long as I get Persona 6 in the next couple of years
― Morris O’Shea Salazar (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 12:10 (one month ago) link
Well, we've already discussed Sony announcing a long wait for new first party releases, I wonder if this means they are hoping their completion coincides with the release of the Pro.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 12:51 (one month ago) link
but yeah, too many games, lol. I'm trying to stay disciplined with the stuff on my wishlist. The new Prince of Persia, Lords of the Fallen, Lies of P, Last of Us Part 1 Remake, et al. ... $20 or bust!
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 12:53 (one month ago) link
thank you for supporting the games economy
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 13:49 (one month ago) link
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/002/182/171/eb0.jpg
I think the only (non-Nintendo) game - new, used, physical or digital - I have ever paid full price for was "Elden Ring". It's a good question, though: if all games were $50-$70 and *stayed* $50-$70, how many games would I ever actually buy? A lot fewer, that's for sure. It'd honestly probably be an incentive to pay for PS+ or whatever.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 14:23 (one month ago) link
aren't you buying three or four for every one you play, though?
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 14:29 (one month ago) link
For sure, that's the collector in me. But those three or four are usually $12 or less, new or used, which helps justify impulse purchases (if waiting for prices to fall that low can be considered impulsive, though many new or used PS4 games seem to be hovering around that price point anyway).
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 14:35 (one month ago) link
Money is finite, gaming is forever
― H.P, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 00:37 (one month ago) link
I endorse your fiscal decisions Josh
(tips hat)
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 13:08 (one month ago) link
Maybe because reading one news article becomes a self-perpetuating algorithmic cycle of repetition, but I keep getting served stories about the PS5 Pro built around the premise: why?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 March 2024 13:27 (one month ago) link