As far as the actual subject of the thread, uncool music that you love...Al Di Meola. A North Jersey guido playing fake flamenco and shredtastic metal fusion? I am in. I also listen to Yngwie Malmsteen more often than I probably should.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Sunday, 17 March 2024 21:46 (two months ago) link
The ABBA fan club includes Lester Bangs, John Lydon, Elvis Costello and Pete Townshend - they were always cool to ppl in the know, it's just they look very uncool to the squares.
― Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 17 March 2024 21:52 (two months ago) link
Ian McCulloch used to bang on about them in the 80s too
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Sunday, 17 March 2024 21:54 (two months ago) link
I have a morbid fondness for a lot of 90's and 00's Modern Rock radio hits, I think partially because that stuff comes from such a culturally and geographically distant world to me. "Breakfast At Tiffany's", "Iris", crap like that - I hear it and I imagine a seductive life of normiedom I could never have, a world where Friends is the funniest show of all time and everyone's excited for the big game.
― Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 17 March 2024 22:00 (two months ago) link
I have no idea of what's cool and what isn't, thus demonstrating my lack of cool from the off. Anyway my lowest-regarded favourites probably include:- elaborately arranged, fiddly-diddly 70s prog like Gryphon, Kansas, Gentle Giant and Nektar. Also IQ and a bunch of operatic Italian prog (PFM, Le Orme, Osanna etc).- the first two Europe albums.- the first two Zebra albums.- early Queen and Status Quo, because when you say you like them everyone thinks you mean the later, more popular records. Ditto Judas Priest and Genesis.- Y&T.
― shave and a haircut, two brits (Matt #2), Sunday, 17 March 2024 22:01 (two months ago) link
I have some affection for the extremely uncool Greg Kihn, almost entirely because "The Breakup Song" was one of the first 45s I ever bought. I ended up having two or three of his albums, although not the one with Jeopardy on it. I know he eventually became a morning rock jock and is probably kind of a dickhead, but there are a couple of album cuts I would rep for.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 17 March 2024 22:07 (two months ago) link
i would say that Europe and Zebra are the two undeniably uncool ones and that you could find more than a few people who would say the rest are cool. i like early Y&T a bunch!
x-post
― scott seward, Sunday, 17 March 2024 22:12 (two months ago) link
These three LPs I absolutely love have at different times severely reduced my cred with different friends
* Fairport Convention - "Babbacombe" Lee* Captain Beefheart - Bluejeans & Moonbeams* Bonzo Dog Band - Let's Make Up & Be Friendly
(Think if you are not a fan of these artists then these would most likely barely register as uncool, though I have had v negative reactions when playing Swarbrick-era Fairport to people)
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 17 March 2024 22:16 (two months ago) link
I feel like if I broke down and listened to albums by The Romantics that I would probably like them. I think I have them all in the store.
― scott seward, Sunday, 17 March 2024 22:16 (two months ago) link
Sorry but early Europe fucking rule and probably influenced Ghost into the bargain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mcv05PbZ5tA
― shave and a haircut, two brits (Matt #2), Sunday, 17 March 2024 22:22 (two months ago) link
Daniel_Rf – good post
― Hippie Ernie (morrisp), Sunday, 17 March 2024 22:31 (two months ago) link
Camaradarie's post above underscored for me how subjective (and varied) the concept of "cool" is. For me, it more or less means rock-critic-sanctioned, so seeing Fairport and Captain Beefheart was confusing. But for someone else, that may be the complete opposite of cool.
― clemenza, Sunday, 17 March 2024 22:40 (two months ago) link
I mean Fairport and Beefheart and Bonzos fans generally hate those albums
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 17 March 2024 22:41 (two months ago) link
Cairo might be considered uncool, even to prog fans? I've said it before but their singing reminds me of gillette adverts, maybe earnest and heroic in a power metal way? Easy to imagine them all with 80s mullets. "Angels And Rage" is one of my all-timers, just incredibly exciting and I like that sort of dense whirlwind quality they have sometimes.
Aren't all the swedish extreme metal bands into ABBA?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 17 March 2024 22:43 (two months ago) link
Late additions:
MagnumSagaPavlov's DogRhapsody of FireUli Jon Roth & Electric SunSteve HackettAngel
― shave and a haircut, two brits (Matt #2), Sunday, 17 March 2024 22:46 (two months ago) link
(xpost) Okay, that makes sense--but I'll stick to "cool" being a subjective concept.
― clemenza, Sunday, 17 March 2024 22:49 (two months ago) link
Unless we're talking about Michael Bolton, he's the sole exception.
― clemenza, Sunday, 17 March 2024 22:50 (two months ago) link
that first Angel album rips so hard. its awesome.
― scott seward, Sunday, 17 March 2024 22:58 (two months ago) link
i'm a big City Boy fan. i win. something. i win something.
i love the first Starz album more than any Kiss album ever made.
― scott seward, Sunday, 17 March 2024 22:59 (two months ago) link
I enjoy some Sons of Champlain songs, but I wouldn’t even know of them if not for my dad. Horn rock!
― brimstead, Monday, 18 March 2024 00:56 (one month ago) link
Is union by Toni Childs uncool?
totally.
― scott seward, Monday, 18 March 2024 01:14 (one month ago) link
Returning to the topic of ABBA’s coolness in the ‘90s; just came across this Flying Nun tribute on social media (had never heard of it)
― Hippie Ernie (morrisp), Monday, 18 March 2024 01:45 (one month ago) link
i looked at this on FB and realized that there are secret levels of whiteness that i am not privy to. other than richard thompson and the preservation hall band i had no idea who ANY of these people were. there are local festivals like this all the time around here. they aren't for young people. i should be the demographic. but unfortunately they just look really uncool to me. no offense to sir. richard. who i love. and who plays around here, like, 10 times a year.
https://scontent-bos5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/431883219_931582178343904_5510188593972983208_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=MK3PyoWjoJEAX-vDaFF&_nc_ht=scontent-bos5-1.xx&oh=00_AfC4SRlMc7HbMyR6lxpbBu_4TcXHe-Isn2-LMuJQ6dp3nQ&oe=65FBE60C
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― scott seward, Monday, 18 March 2024 01:54 (one month ago) link
i know laura cantrell. or of her. didn't she have a radio show on WFMU?
― scott seward, Monday, 18 March 2024 01:55 (one month ago) link
peter blanchette is from here and he plays a crazy guitar. the "archguitar".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COzLdipNUe4
― scott seward, Monday, 18 March 2024 02:00 (one month ago) link
anyway, i don't dig nu-americana for the most part. too many hats.
alright if no one's gonna name anything TRULY uncool I'll just mention that I think both Moxy Fruvous and the Barenaked Ladies have written some excellent songs
― frogbs, Monday, 18 March 2024 02:03 (one month ago) link
I've recently come around to Sergio Mendes & Brasil 66, those records are fun! maybe they are cool now but they weren't for years
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Monday, 18 March 2024 02:03 (one month ago) link
they are permanently cool. all the 70s records are as great as the 60s ones.
― scott seward, Monday, 18 March 2024 02:11 (one month ago) link
Back in 2019, I tried (and failed) to drum up sufficient enthusiasm around here to place a “Frozen II” outtake on the EOY poll.
― Hippie Ernie (morrisp), Monday, 18 March 2024 02:12 (one month ago) link
man, my kid is obsessed with brazil thanks to spotify. his playlists are insanely hip. he's 18! you'd think he was a 50-something japanese sake bar owner.
― scott seward, Monday, 18 March 2024 02:15 (one month ago) link
Steve Harley died! he's not very cool now. but does anyone still listen to him?? maybe in the U.K. they never stopped.
― scott seward, Monday, 18 March 2024 02:22 (one month ago) link
@frogbs I said The Tea Party and I’m with you on BNL (but not Moxy)
― Premises, Premises (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 18 March 2024 02:32 (one month ago) link
Stuck in the 90s man
― frogbs, Monday, 18 March 2024 02:33 (one month ago) link
Buy a new Gameboy
For the fun and the fashion
No, I bought it for Tetris
― Premises, Premises (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 18 March 2024 02:37 (one month ago) link
Seeing as we're above the 49th, I genuinely love--I'm about to cross a line very few have--Glass Tiger's "Don't Forget Me (When I'm Gone)."
(The BNL's Bruce Cockburn cover is great, especially the video. Hated Moxy Fruvous--and talk about baggage...)
― clemenza, Monday, 18 March 2024 02:41 (one month ago) link
The Blow Monkeys are one of my favorite bands and sound objectively great to me.
This can't be cool.
― mr.raffles, Monday, 18 March 2024 03:29 (one month ago) link
I like everything Whiskeytown ever did, including the couple dozen unreleased tracks.
(Ryan Adam's solo gets patchy pretty quickly thereafter.)
― Hideous Lump, Monday, 18 March 2024 04:56 (one month ago) link
Sergio Mendes could def be considered uncool from a bossa nova purist perspective, he's the dude who went off to become a big star in the US and do covers of Anglo songs. but then from a 90's and beyond lounge revivalist pov he becomes very cool indeed.
quite like Barenaked Ladies, I get that they're an early incarnation of epic bacon/reddit style humour but that stuff wasn't as omnipresent then, or perhaps I was younger and less discerning, anyway they strike me as fundamentally benign. got Brian Wilson to sing "Brian Wilson" on that live album, too.
I certainly despised Michael Bolton in my youth but "How Can We Be Lovers" works as well as the next AOR/power ballad banger.
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 18 March 2024 10:26 (one month ago) link
I like that Bonzo Dog Band album Camaraderie posted
I also have a Blow Monkeys LP but tbh I don't like very much on it so maybe that doesn't count
I own the first Asia LP
I like lots of post-1980 punk stuff that was definitely not cool in the UK when I was growing up but appears to have been cool in the USA to some degree, and a lot of it seems to have been reappraised a bit in more recent times
main uncool music for me is probably lots of pre-Britpop UK indie music that is still roundly detested
― Colonel Poo, Monday, 18 March 2024 10:32 (one month ago) link
Chris Carter of Throbbing Gristle ca. 1980.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ZKk0vXesqmA/X9zspXItOZI/AAAAAAAAKCU/j_lEhCqq2RAjhwNF12352KGx2mLFH6WZACLcBGAsYHQ/s500/abbachris.jpg
― Tom D (the first British Asian ILXor) (Tom D.), Monday, 18 March 2024 10:45 (one month ago) link
I saw the Abba Voyage show in London last year and I was the only cool person there.
― lord of the rongs (anagram), Monday, 18 March 2024 10:47 (one month ago) link
Oh yes ABBA Voyage is not cool.
The CBGBs store they had at that New York airport also wasn't cool.
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 18 March 2024 10:51 (one month ago) link
That uncool couple you sat next to? Used to be in Throbbing Gristle.
― Tom D (the first British Asian ILXor) (Tom D.), Monday, 18 March 2024 10:51 (one month ago) link
"main uncool music for me is probably lots of pre-Britpop UK indie music that is still roundly detested"
names please.
― scott seward, Monday, 18 March 2024 11:20 (one month ago) link
only one post on the revived steve harley thread. ouch.
― scott seward, Monday, 18 March 2024 11:21 (one month ago) link
xp reminds me that I've had an "in defense of Kingmaker" blog planned for quite a while now, must get it finished.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 18 March 2024 11:22 (one month ago) link
I unapologetically love “Cracked Rear View” by Hootie and the Blowfish. As a Brit, do I get bonus uncool points for embracing the sound of mid-90s middle America.
― Dan Worsley, Monday, 18 March 2024 11:27 (one month ago) link