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The fact that it's U2 isn't really important though.

I suppose so, I get that we're here for the sphere but I remember laser shows at the planetarium and had a way better time at Laser 90s than I did Laser Pink Floyd

also I looked at the U2 set and I just can't believe they didn't bust out the batman song, bats flying everywhere, c'mon it's las vegas

I'm done with big concerts but intimate shows and acoustic performances rule

i'm thinking i would be MORE comfortable in a big place with good seating. my back and neck are pretty bad. too many record crates over the years. or just manual labor for decades. i might enjoy some cushy casino show with those big fancy movie theater seats that tilt back. if they have those there. i haven't been to a big concert in the 21st century though. closest would be when i went to see my old high school friend liz play with electric wizard. we went up to the balcony for that. seats were pretty comfortable. but that place wasn't some massive arena. just a massive old movie theater turned into a venue.

I love live shows, it kind of took over being my primary 'hobby' when I decided to pull back from doing theatre.

will say though that I'm a lot pickier over which ones I go to anymore. which is to say I still go to a fuck ton of them.

Live music is absolutely glorious, particularly jazz, blues, and all forms lumped under “classical”

I went to my first classical performance last year! One of the very few seated shows I've been to after all those teenage disappointments with area rock. An orchestra made up of local medical professionals, which was really cool. Pro-am classical music, folks for whom the afternoon cello practice was probably the relief from all the other study pressures. Was about five rows back, Vaughn Willams contrasted with Florence Price, a very good program. I do wish I could have had the option to wander around and see how the sound shifts.

music makes me feel good, apart from maroon 5

and all forms lumped under “classical”

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i've been to the orchestra sporadically a few times over the years and it is the music i think that most benefits from being there live, just the hugeness of the whole sound experience of a live orchestra in a hall with perfect acoustics, don't know if that can quite be captured on a recording

Dare I say improv only really works live? Not quite but it certainly helps.

i think that's definitely true. there's nothing like experiencing the moment simultaneously with somebody who is creating something from nothing in real time. on the other hand, it can be immensely boring.

free improv/noise/laptop jams at my store were great because i had a comfy chair and a computer to look at if things got tedious. but nothing beats Noise Nomads in the wild.

i've gone to some amazing shows but there have been some experiences which weren't worth the hassle, ultimately. usually it relates to the venue, either getting to it or the crowd or the logistics. for example when i saw Roedelius at the Echo in Los Angeles, and they doubled booked a DJ in the basement and the sound was bleeding through to his quiet set, to the point that he got exasperated and almost stopped playing. at the time (maybe still is), it was a badly run club.

anyway a lot of this might be chalked up to ILM getting old.

the challenge with live music shows is that, unlike listening to music at home, you only get one shot at appreciating what's happening, so when someone crashes into you and spills beer all over you during your favorite song at a show, you're never getting that moment back.

but...when you're at a good show, to me it almost always destroys listening to an album at home.

i go to less shows but more just because of rising ticket prices i just can't go to everything i want to see these days

I just looked up tickets to a Dwight Yoakam show I was thinking about going to — $105 for a general admission lawn spot. And for that I have to put up with the Mavericks, too. Sorry, no thanks.

as long as I can sit down I’m fine. Saw suede and maniacs last year and felt like a damn teenager again singing along to “killing of a flashboy” and “a design for life”

Ended up standing up most of the time (everyone else was too) but it was good to be able to sit down

One thing that improved show-going was smoking bans. I used to have clothes and a coat that were reserved for concerts. Because a trip to a club would cause everything I wore to reek of tobacco for a week.

100% agree

yeah lord do I not miss smelling like an ash tray.

Suede was one of the worst shows i ever saw. after their original guitarist left and they had some clueless kid on guitar. it was sad. because i like suede!

upstairs at nicks in philly used to have a permanent cloud of smoke hovering near the ceiling at all times. it was so gross and i smoked! i would go home with insane smoke inhalation headaches.

man the House of Blues in Orlando has spacing issues, and I saw Slayer there in 1999, bought a shirt and wore it the whole show, leaving smelling of nasty-assed smoke, and was so excited about the show I didn't even wash the fucking thing and wore it to school the next day, friends not coming within inches of me.

then my religious mother threw it away anyway

1000% agree on smoking bans. Having to PLAY pre-smoking ban especially sucked, as you'd be stuck in the venue for even longer.

Scott, that guitar player has gotten SO MUCH BETTER he was SLAYING all those Bernard butler leads and riffs I tell ya!!!

Man alive otm. My instrument cases probably still retain Camel Light residue from 1994

Yes smoking at shows was gross even when I smoked but I was somewhere recently where people were still smoking indoors and I was tempted to buy a pack and do so just because I could.

if I'm somewhere you can smoke indoors there's no way I'm not tracking down a cigarette.

might as well at that point

My memory of 1990 is that even if you were not smoking, you were smoking

I’ve always substituted “chamber music” to describe the broader genre of “classical”— helpful for me because I think of “classical” as meaning Mozart and Haydn, not Mahler or Webern.

But somebody referred to it using the term “sheet music” recently to me and I was kinda charmed by that and I might start doing the same

I've also heard it called "concert music" and "art music"... I'm a rube so I just call it "classical," tho

i always thought of "chamber music" as notated, non-jazz music made by small ensembles (quartets, trios, quintets, all the way up to octets!), but i never thought of big orchestral music as "chamber music"

upstairs at nicks in philly used to have a permanent cloud of smoke hovering near the ceiling at all times. it was so gross and i smoked! i would go home with insane smoke inhalation headaches.

Yeah chamber music implies an ensemble, but something short of a full orchestra. No one has successfully defined the precise dividing line.

you even have chamber orchestras! but generally i think of chamber music as smaller ensembles or soloists. "concert music" is a nice term though

I talked to a lady today whose husband was a hymnologist! what a cool thing. she was trained as a Renaissance and church singer. when they first got married 50 years ago, one of the first things they did together was purchase a harpsichord kit.

she said they called the constructed harps it their first baby and sent baby pictures to all their friends

that is really sweet and I will keep an eye out for someone that wants to build a harpsichord going forward

is it controversial that we should bring back the harpsichord

My memory of 1990 is that even if you were not smoking, you were smoking

― alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin)

i remember the world i grew up in smelling like cigarettes the way portland today smells like marijuana

is it controversial that we should bring back the harpsichord

― Florin Cuchares

harpsichord is great for loudness wars era music because it doesn't have the whole soft-loud thing that the pianoforte does

i like the way harpsichord makes you prance on your toes, i feel ever so fancy.

the whole soft-loud thing that the pianoforte does

That is literally what pianoforte means, of course. I have an uncle who plays the harpsichord rather well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-7ddjZNxUQ

rather well indeed haha

rather jealous, would love to be able to sit down at a harpsichord and just kill it

tried to find a cool live clip of never never gonna give you up but they are all too fast and do not contain the harpsichord riff, wtf Barry White, how are you gonna record the nastiest harpsichord ever and then just skip it live

Was there ever even a prog rock band that took a harpsichord on tour? Maybe the Savage Rose?

mostly just electric piano with harpsichord setting probably.

one of my very favorite 60s band used the rock-si-chord to great effect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfVmk_RliOY

that band is holy to me. i met one of them once (craig anderton) - he was great friends and musical partners with my friend linda cohen who also recorded for poppy records - and i could barely speak to him. he couldn't believe i knew his music. it was like meeting a beatle!

I dont know that band or song yet, look forward to learning.

from the whole baroque pop time, to me the big name is michael brown on the first left banke album... maybe there's harpsichord stuff that's even more classic, but from my knowledge that first left banke album is considered the goat. i actually like the second left banke album after michael brown left better, but i'm weird like that