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There are def. some King Gizzard tracks (albums?) that sound broadly Phishy, but there are also microtonal experimental records, garage rock records, legit thrash records, and so on.

thanks for the Lewers tip! digging them. would definitely buy that album if i saw it.

digging the Exek record! its like a lost Section 25 album. cheers, nerve pylon.

Here'a controversial musical opinion, so controversial I'm surprising myself: I think I'd much rather hear an album of the Rolling Stones covering the VU than the Feelies one.

what the heck would that even sound like???

I’d rather sit home and listen to Murmur than see a cover band play it live… even a talented cover band with the R.E.M. guys’ endorsement……

what the heck would that even sound like???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NcJvi5TYEk

#onethread

wowee Exek has tons of albums! gonna play them all. The Map And The Territory is even better than the first one i played.

Na

Not sure what happened there, that was supposed to be:

"Nat King Cole's After Midnight is better than any Sinatra studio album"

Oh totally. Hadn't thought to compare them, but does have the same kind of excellent sequencing and singular mood as 50s Sinatra albums.

My probably not at all controversial Sinatra opinion is that Frank Sinatra Sings for Only the Lonely is much better than In The Wee Small Hours.

Only the Lonely got some love here:

Frank Sinatra's Tetralogy of Despair

I’d rather sit home and listen to _Murmur_ than see a cover band play it live… even a talented cover band with the R.E.M. guys’ endorsement……

SAME

feel like Live Music is Better is obviously true on paper (sticker) however the reality of actually attending (or playing) a live music show is more often than not a miserable experience and I am very much over it

therefore Recordings of Live Music is Better

same. but i am old. and cranky. i never really bonded with people at clubs or concerts though. i have certainly seen great music and been uplifted by it and felt as one with the sound but i have also spent a lot of time being uncomfortable or constantly aware that there are people all around me and having that take me out of my enjoyment of the music. getting drunk was the best remedy for that. and i don't drink anymore. i have always preferred listening to music alone though. which is why i was never part of a scene or considered myself a "metalhead" or whatever. i loved the music at punk shows or loud rock shows and pretty much hated everything else.

I go to concerts because my wife likes them, and I like my wife, but I would always rather be on the stage than in the audience.

i mean live music in an intimate venue is great to be honest, it's the large venues that I'm completely mystified by

for sure, love an intimate venue, can't imagine going to a large size thing again unless it's that wild ass sphere out in Las Vegas that looks incredible I just wish it wasn't U2

Toni Braxton had a residency last time I was out that way, give Toni Braxton the sphere

The fact that it's U2 isn't really important though.

I suppose so, I get that we're here for the sphere but I remember laser shows at the planetarium and had a way better time at Laser 90s than I did Laser Pink Floyd

also I looked at the U2 set and I just can't believe they didn't bust out the batman song, bats flying everywhere, c'mon it's las vegas

I'm done with big concerts but intimate shows and acoustic performances rule

i'm thinking i would be MORE comfortable in a big place with good seating. my back and neck are pretty bad. too many record crates over the years. or just manual labor for decades. i might enjoy some cushy casino show with those big fancy movie theater seats that tilt back. if they have those there. i haven't been to a big concert in the 21st century though. closest would be when i went to see my old high school friend liz play with electric wizard. we went up to the balcony for that. seats were pretty comfortable. but that place wasn't some massive arena. just a massive old movie theater turned into a venue.

I love live shows, it kind of took over being my primary 'hobby' when I decided to pull back from doing theatre.

will say though that I'm a lot pickier over which ones I go to anymore. which is to say I still go to a fuck ton of them.

Live music is absolutely glorious, particularly jazz, blues, and all forms lumped under “classical”

I went to my first classical performance last year! One of the very few seated shows I've been to after all those teenage disappointments with area rock. An orchestra made up of local medical professionals, which was really cool. Pro-am classical music, folks for whom the afternoon cello practice was probably the relief from all the other study pressures. Was about five rows back, Vaughn Willams contrasted with Florence Price, a very good program. I do wish I could have had the option to wander around and see how the sound shifts.

music makes me feel good, apart from maroon 5

and all forms lumped under “classical”

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i've been to the orchestra sporadically a few times over the years and it is the music i think that most benefits from being there live, just the hugeness of the whole sound experience of a live orchestra in a hall with perfect acoustics, don't know if that can quite be captured on a recording

Dare I say improv only really works live? Not quite but it certainly helps.

i think that's definitely true. there's nothing like experiencing the moment simultaneously with somebody who is creating something from nothing in real time. on the other hand, it can be immensely boring.

free improv/noise/laptop jams at my store were great because i had a comfy chair and a computer to look at if things got tedious. but nothing beats Noise Nomads in the wild.

i've gone to some amazing shows but there have been some experiences which weren't worth the hassle, ultimately. usually it relates to the venue, either getting to it or the crowd or the logistics. for example when i saw Roedelius at the Echo in Los Angeles, and they doubled booked a DJ in the basement and the sound was bleeding through to his quiet set, to the point that he got exasperated and almost stopped playing. at the time (maybe still is), it was a badly run club.

anyway a lot of this might be chalked up to ILM getting old.

the challenge with live music shows is that, unlike listening to music at home, you only get one shot at appreciating what's happening, so when someone crashes into you and spills beer all over you during your favorite song at a show, you're never getting that moment back.

but...when you're at a good show, to me it almost always destroys listening to an album at home.

i go to less shows but more just because of rising ticket prices i just can't go to everything i want to see these days

I just looked up tickets to a Dwight Yoakam show I was thinking about going to — $105 for a general admission lawn spot. And for that I have to put up with the Mavericks, too. Sorry, no thanks.

as long as I can sit down I’m fine. Saw suede and maniacs last year and felt like a damn teenager again singing along to “killing of a flashboy” and “a design for life”

Ended up standing up most of the time (everyone else was too) but it was good to be able to sit down

One thing that improved show-going was smoking bans. I used to have clothes and a coat that were reserved for concerts. Because a trip to a club would cause everything I wore to reek of tobacco for a week.

100% agree

yeah lord do I not miss smelling like an ash tray.

Suede was one of the worst shows i ever saw. after their original guitarist left and they had some clueless kid on guitar. it was sad. because i like suede!

upstairs at nicks in philly used to have a permanent cloud of smoke hovering near the ceiling at all times. it was so gross and i smoked! i would go home with insane smoke inhalation headaches.

man the House of Blues in Orlando has spacing issues, and I saw Slayer there in 1999, bought a shirt and wore it the whole show, leaving smelling of nasty-assed smoke, and was so excited about the show I didn't even wash the fucking thing and wore it to school the next day, friends not coming within inches of me.

then my religious mother threw it away anyway

1000% agree on smoking bans. Having to PLAY pre-smoking ban especially sucked, as you'd be stuck in the venue for even longer.

Scott, that guitar player has gotten SO MUCH BETTER he was SLAYING all those Bernard butler leads and riffs I tell ya!!!

Man alive otm. My instrument cases probably still retain Camel Light residue from 1994

Yes smoking at shows was gross even when I smoked but I was somewhere recently where people were still smoking indoors and I was tempted to buy a pack and do so just because I could.

if I'm somewhere you can smoke indoors there's no way I'm not tracking down a cigarette.

might as well at that point