Ivy, very good writing and insights.
Thing is, drugs are the key to being a good band without good songs.
My father is an expert on drugs (personally and also professionally) as well as music. He notes that weed (especially) inhibits short-term memory. So you forget that you've been listening to the same dumb chords with goofy pentatonic noodling over them for 15 minutes. I think he was talking about the Dead at the time, but it seems modestly relevant.
― alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 20:01 (two months ago) link
damn, kate, how am i supposed to get any work done? i'm gonna come back and read all that but i gotta get ready for this record show on sunday . cheers.― scott seward
― scott seward
EXACTLY HOW I FELT TRYING TO CATCH UP TO THIS THREAD lol
HI CHUCK EDDY
― Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 20:40 (two months ago) link
yeah i can't keep up, not gonna try, but not familiar with ivy's published words so look fwd to this phish piece thank u
― A street taco cart named Des'ree (Deflatormouse), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 20:41 (two months ago) link
Thing is, drugs are the key to being a good band without good songs.My father is an expert on drugs (personally and also professionally) as well as music. He notes that weed (especially) inhibits short-term memory. So you forget that you've been listening to the same dumb chords with goofy pentatonic noodling over them for 15 minutes. I think he was talking about the Dead at the time, but it seems modestly relevant.― alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin)
― alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin)
totally true. i remember seeing my morning jacket back in 2011. they played "dondante" for 20 minutes and ten minutes in i was screaming at them to modulate to the phrygian dominant already for god's sake. you know why? BECAUSE I WASN'T ON DRUGS. That's how NORMAL SOBER people listen to music.
― Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 20:53 (two months ago) link
Many xpsBut for the people looking for death metal stuff with a free jazz bent, there’s a burgeoning subset of “free death” adjacent bands like ByoNoiseGenerator, Encenathrakh, Trichomoniasis, Chlorama, and especially Effluence.
― Judi Dench's Human Hand (methanietanner), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 21:11 (two months ago) link
the local sports talk morning show used to use a short clip of “step into the freezer” and the gorgeous vocal harmonies filtered through lofi AM radio band caused me to assume it was some doobie bros or csn deep cut
― brimstead, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 21:14 (two months ago) link
Wow I wish I knew you people in my twenties <3
drugs enhance music for sure, but ime none of that effect has to do with their impact on my short-term memory, except for maybe like the first few times i smoked weed. i particularly take issue with the suggestion that repetition requires drugs to be enjoyable, a lot of the best music is built on loops that can go on forever
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 28 February 2024 21:24 (two months ago) link
A lot of people can't bear that kind of repetition without chemical assistance.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 22:18 (two months ago) link
I don't think I would listen to anything that required not being sober to enjoy it. Like, that's a pretty clear message your brain is sending your way. "This music is bad, listen to something else." Or, "that's enough of that, put something else on."
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 22:33 (two months ago) link
I mean, it's a fool's errand to defend Phish around here and I'm not really motivated enough to try anyway, but with reference to recent tangents, I've seen Phish multiple times stone cold sober and enjoyed the show just as much as I did when, uh, less than straight edge.
You need drugs to like Phish is just such a lazy complaint at this point anyway. Believe me, there are many fully legit complaints about those four goofballs and the corny ass music they can make, no one needs to lean on that old saw.
(also, fuck the nitrous mafia, an absolute scourge on the scene)
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 22:39 (two months ago) link
fuck the nitrous mafia
otm that is some scary shit (speaking as someone who enjoys a whipit every so often)
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 22:44 (two months ago) link
Was it in one of those All Gas videos where someone (Lance Bangs?) describes Phish as "children of dentists selling meth to buy coke?" Anyway, joke or no: dentists, Phish, nitrous, it all adds up.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 22:47 (two months ago) link
if phish didn't sing they'd be doing the superbowl is how i break it down to an extant.
― a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Thursday, 29 February 2024 01:18 (two months ago) link
Ivy's Phish Odyssey: Phish C/D
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 29 February 2024 01:53 (two months ago) link
(xps: sorry, really should have said above that I did talk to the jam cruise guys in line and they were nice guys, don't want to unfairly place them, whatever else was going on)
― bulb after bulb, Thursday, 29 February 2024 03:49 (two months ago) link
Music in general is just something to keep us entertained when we can't find anything new in superior mediums such as stand up comedy.
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 29 February 2024 15:12 (two months ago) link
or if we are waiting for the pickle ball court to open up.
― scott seward, Thursday, 29 February 2024 15:15 (two months ago) link
wait i've got a contro/op! THE ONLY 21ST CENTURY INDIE GUITAR BANDS WORTH LISTENING TO ARE ALL FROM AUSTRALIA. its true. dune rats. rolling blackouts. violent soho. hockey dad. drunk mums. total control. the uv race. raw balls. dick diver. lace curtain. rat columns. dag. blank realm. NEED I GO ON??? not to mention famous people like courtney and amyl.
pretty much the only modern indie rock i listen to. everything else is lame. how do they all make their guitars sound so cool and fun? and why does it look like they are having so much fun? aren't all the koalas on fire over there? down there. so infectious. AND NOT JUST THAT SMOKO SONG. they can't ALL be related to the Go-Betweens.
i'm a little behind though. i need to find some new kangarockers.
(i'm listening to the song "dive deep" by rolling blackouts right now and i think could marry the entire band. so good.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=628gXZn-zYw
― scott seward, Thursday, 29 February 2024 15:41 (two months ago) link
not to mention Billiam, Gee Tees, R.M.F.C., Busted Head Racket, Tee Vee Repairman, Hagol, etc etc etc
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Thursday, 29 February 2024 15:53 (two months ago) link
and Terry, and EXEK, and The Lewers
― nerve_pylon, Thursday, 29 February 2024 16:03 (two months ago) link
Maybe if you include Canada too. Some of the indie guitar bands from up north: Dumb, Kiwi jr., Ducks Ltd.
― o. nate, Thursday, 29 February 2024 16:07 (two months ago) link
ooh yeah aussie recs for me here please. i started a YT playlist ages ago but i should update or create a better one. plus its an old account of mine that i don't use anymore. WOOLEN KITS!
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4uJu4UGWv-Rn0YA53IvBEQTcxQ2E0u1n
― scott seward, Thursday, 29 February 2024 16:07 (two months ago) link
SCOTT & CHARLENE'S WEDDING RULE. i have one album by them. so great.
― scott seward, Thursday, 29 February 2024 16:08 (two months ago) link
i never look at my old account. this is still the best thing i've ever put on the internet probably.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFHPsThGQ1E
― scott seward, Thursday, 29 February 2024 16:10 (two months ago) link
see also
LotharioTGRXTombeau
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Thursday, 29 February 2024 16:14 (two months ago) link
"children of dentists selling meth to buy coke?" Anyway, joke or no: dentists, Phish, nitrous, it all adds up.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, February 28, 2024 5:47 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
Actual LOLs because the biggest Phish phan I knew at aforementioned college was the son of a dentist studying to be a dentist who also happens to be the only person I've ever done whipits with so that tracks.
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 29 February 2024 16:14 (two months ago) link
xpost Tropical Fuck Storm
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 February 2024 16:16 (two months ago) link
Power Plant too, forgot them
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Thursday, 29 February 2024 16:22 (two months ago) link
Feel like there would even be at least one King Gizzard record scott would dig too.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 29 February 2024 16:26 (two months ago) link
for sure, gotta be at least one lol
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Thursday, 29 February 2024 16:27 (two months ago) link
i'm a little scared of them. they aren't the phish of stoner rock are they?
― scott seward, Thursday, 29 February 2024 16:36 (two months ago) link
they kind of are
― a (waterface), Thursday, 29 February 2024 16:40 (two months ago) link
Powerplant are from London
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 29 February 2024 16:41 (two months ago) link
hey random ilxor if you have never heard this song and you like the sound of electric guitars..........................ahhhhhhhh!! LUV.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G93J8FKmrn0
― scott seward, Thursday, 29 February 2024 16:45 (two months ago) link
xp thank you CP! my mistake
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Thursday, 29 February 2024 16:46 (two months ago) link
if there is an indie band that sounds as good as RBCF in this godforsaken country i ain't never heard them.
― scott seward, Thursday, 29 February 2024 16:46 (two months ago) link
most of these are more punk than indie but some more Aussie recs: Ausmuteants, Alien Nosejob, Civic, Soakie, Private Function, Cold Meat, Ubik, Enzyme, Straightjacket Nation
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 29 February 2024 16:56 (two months ago) link
love Civic
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 February 2024 17:02 (two months ago) link
I mean, yes and no. Similar in that they have a massive dedicated live following and really bring out folks with the collector's bug. But also, no, they don't ever really sound like Phish and are all over the place from stoner rock to thrash to kraut to prog and all points in between.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 29 February 2024 17:03 (two months ago) link
i haven't done a deep dive but i don't really like how their records sound, recording wise
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 February 2024 17:09 (two months ago) link
Physique
― brimstead, Thursday, 29 February 2024 17:10 (two months ago) link
i will check out the gizzard guys sometime. i mean i know i must have heard something online at some point.
― scott seward, Thursday, 29 February 2024 17:13 (two months ago) link
lol i just remembered I made this meme for some friends in a fb chat a while back
https://i.postimg.cc/90jDfB5y/aussiepunk.jpg
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 February 2024 17:17 (two months ago) link
Physique are from Olympia
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 29 February 2024 17:19 (two months ago) link
lol ums
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Thursday, 29 February 2024 17:21 (two months ago) link
Have you heard Big Thief? They're pretty good...
― Sony's Sports Walkman Universe (morrisp), Thursday, 29 February 2024 17:30 (two months ago) link
my kid loves big thief. my kid turns me on to cool stuff. i like Wednesday! and my kid rufus turned me on to the wednesday guitarist's stuff and i dug it. it almost sounded australian!
― scott seward, Thursday, 29 February 2024 17:33 (two months ago) link
i like turnstile lollllzzz but i kinda do. don't know why really.
― scott seward, Thursday, 29 February 2024 17:34 (two months ago) link
i like western mass indie rock. my friends. its chill. my pal mikey turner had an awesome band called Huevos II but he moved to england :(
and my friend adam had an awesome band that i loved called New Parents but he moved to Philly and now he plays with kurt vile :(
and my pals clarke and wednesday (no relation to the band) had an AWES0ME band called Pigeons but they don't play anymore :(
but my friends patrick and wes have a new band that is awesome called Creative Writing. look out for them.
and my friends rob and bev have an amazing folk/psych band called Stella Kola and their album is one of my faves of recent times. that's online.
but maybe i like them so much because they are my friends. New Parents were SO great live.
― scott seward, Thursday, 29 February 2024 17:39 (two months ago) link