Another thing that runaway lied to him about
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 17:52 (two months ago) link
don't stop believin, hoser
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 17:52 (two months ago) link
"I ran the phonetics of east, west, and north, but nothing sounded as good or emotionally true to me as South Detroit," he told the reporter. "It’s only been in the last few years that I’ve learned that there is no South Detroit. But it doesn't matter."
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 17:55 (two months ago) link
Also, if you get on a train at midnight (or any time, really), it has a specific route and destination. You have, presumably, purchased a ticket. Maps are widely available. You can't just go "anywhere."
Like, Antarctica or the Moon or Madagascar. Very difficult to reach by train.
― alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 17:57 (two months ago) link
"The Night Chicago Died" is about a shoot-out between the Chicago Police and gangsters tied to Al Capone. It was inspired by the real-life Saint Valentine's Day Massacre,[2] although that involved Capone's men killing seven of Bugs Moran's gang members and had nothing to do with the police. No confrontation large enough to leave around one hundred police deaths ever happened. Al Capone was arrested in 1932 for income tax evasion.The song's events supposedly take place "on the East Side of Chicago". Chicago has three commonly referred-to regions: the North Side, the West Side and the South Side. There is no East Side, as Lake Michigan is immediately east of Downtown Chicago. While there is an area of Chicago known as "East Side", it is a neighborhood on the Far South Side on the Illinois/Indiana state line. East Side is also several miles away from where Capone lived on Prairie Avenue in Chicago. Furthermore, in the 1920s, East Side was known for being a quiet, residential, and predominantly Eastern European neighborhood—a sharp contrast from the site of the bloodbath described in the song.Songwriters Peter Callender and Mitch Murray said in interviews (most notably on Beat Club shortly after the song's smash success) that they had never been to Chicago before that time, and that their knowledge of the city and that period of its history had been based on gangster films. (Callender defended his interpretation of Chicago's geography by saying, "There's an East Side of everywhere!")As reported by History.com:"...in England there were at least a few young men that didn’t have all the facts straight, and in the 1970s their pop group from Nottingham turned their romantic misunderstanding of American history into a historically dubious yet gloriously catchy hit record. Though it was never intended for the American market, Paper Lace’s "The Night Chicago Died" crossed the Atlantic and became a #1 hit on the U.S. pop charts..."[2]Paper Lace sent the song to the mayor of Chicago, Richard Daley, who greatly disliked it.[3] A member of Daley's staff is quoted as saying that Paper Lace should "jump in the Chicago River, placing your heads under water three times and surfacing twice. Pray tell us, are you nuts?”[4]
The song's events supposedly take place "on the East Side of Chicago". Chicago has three commonly referred-to regions: the North Side, the West Side and the South Side. There is no East Side, as Lake Michigan is immediately east of Downtown Chicago. While there is an area of Chicago known as "East Side", it is a neighborhood on the Far South Side on the Illinois/Indiana state line. East Side is also several miles away from where Capone lived on Prairie Avenue in Chicago. Furthermore, in the 1920s, East Side was known for being a quiet, residential, and predominantly Eastern European neighborhood—a sharp contrast from the site of the bloodbath described in the song.
Songwriters Peter Callender and Mitch Murray said in interviews (most notably on Beat Club shortly after the song's smash success) that they had never been to Chicago before that time, and that their knowledge of the city and that period of its history had been based on gangster films. (Callender defended his interpretation of Chicago's geography by saying, "There's an East Side of everywhere!")
As reported by History.com:
"...in England there were at least a few young men that didn’t have all the facts straight, and in the 1970s their pop group from Nottingham turned their romantic misunderstanding of American history into a historically dubious yet gloriously catchy hit record. Though it was never intended for the American market, Paper Lace’s "The Night Chicago Died" crossed the Atlantic and became a #1 hit on the U.S. pop charts..."[2]
Paper Lace sent the song to the mayor of Chicago, Richard Daley, who greatly disliked it.[3] A member of Daley's staff is quoted as saying that Paper Lace should "jump in the Chicago River, placing your heads under water three times and surfacing twice. Pray tell us, are you nuts?”[4]
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 18:00 (two months ago) link
The Antartica route was discontinued in 1981, after lots of Journey fans who showed up at the train station asking to go "anywhere" ended up freezing to death there.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 18:02 (two months ago) link
Play Don't Stop Believin' on a piano with a lot of jagged passing chords and a plaintive growl, rhyme "believing" with "bleeding" somewhere, and you could mistake the lyric for early Tom Waits.
― bendy, Thursday, 22 February 2024 14:45 (two months ago) link
It would be called "Streetlight People"
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 22 February 2024 14:55 (two months ago) link
Just a city boi
Born and raised in North Hanoi
― alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 22 February 2024 17:22 (two months ago) link
Once there was this girl who left her small town to take the midnight train But when she bought her ticketShe didn't know where she was goingShe said it didn't matterJust take me anywhere
Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 22 February 2024 17:31 (two months ago) link
Collected via social media:
Maybe I'm being pedantic but the new Dua Lipa song, Houdini, uses the line "Catch me or I go Houdini" to imply she'll disappear. But Houdini was primarily an escape artist. Outside of the metamorphosis trick, which was a swap, he never disappeared himself. It feels like the song writer had no idea other than the name means magician.
― Sony's Sports Walkman Universe (morrisp), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 03:14 (one month ago) link
(primo pedantic post, imo)
― Sony's Sports Walkman Universe (morrisp), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 03:15 (one month ago) link
Houdini plays the mamba
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 13:12 (one month ago) link
Melle Mel confuses salty with bitter
― cozen itt (wins), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 13:52 (one month ago) link
I've brought this up elsewhere, but in "Hot Stuff" by Donna Summer the songwriter seems to confuse making other people's phones ring with having your own phone rung.
Sittiin' here eatin' my heart out waitingWaiting for some lover to callDialed about at thousand numbers latelyAlmost rang the phone off the wall
Someone offered the explanation that this may be the British usage of "ring," as in another word for call, and in fact the lyricist is British (Pete Bellotte, I think). Always sounded funny to me though.
― Josefa, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 14:39 (one month ago) link
that reads like two separate thoughts to me - first two lines are "i'm waiting for a lover to find me," second two lines are "i'm actively out here looking for lovers as well"
― na (NA), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 14:42 (one month ago) link
But whose phone is being rung off the wall?
― Josefa, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 14:45 (one month ago) link
The LOL Britishes explanation seems likely but awkward, ungrammatical and not something anyone would say irl.
― The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 14:57 (one month ago) link
Man, if it was Donna Summer, I'd bet all thousand numbers rang her back.
― pplains, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 15:32 (one month ago) link
oh boy, ranging phones, that's where i'm a viking
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 15:54 (one month ago) link
wait, what is confusing? to ring somebody means to call them in USA too
― budo jeru, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 15:55 (one month ago) link
If I heard someone say "My phone was ringing off the wall" I would assume they meant they were getting lots of calls, not making lots of calls.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 15:59 (one month ago) link
ring my phoneoff the wall
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 16:00 (one month ago) link
Americans only started saying they "ring" someone in the Internet Age when the English language has flattened out worldwide and Americans have adopted English idioms and vice versa. No one in America in the 1980s said they would "ring" someone unless they were PBS-watching Anglophiles.
― from a prominent family of bassoon players (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 16:02 (one month ago) link
I'm in the phone booth, it's the one across the hallIf you don't answer, I'll just ring it off the wall
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 16:05 (one month ago) link
"almost rang the phone off the wall" of all her friends' kitchens guys come on jeez
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 16:15 (one month ago) link
Me, in a song I wrote:
"I sent my coals to Coventry"
Which I was sure was an idiom but appears to be a conflation of "Send someone to Coventry" and "Send coals to Newcastle"
― your mom goes to limgrave (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 16:28 (one month ago) link
― Alba, Saturday, 2 March 2024 07:51 (one month ago) link
Oh, just saw President Keyes' post, sorry
― Alba, Saturday, 2 March 2024 07:53 (one month ago) link
I think there's a slight distinction there between ringing an object and ringing a person, with the latter being definitely rare in the US of the '70s/'80s
(Also Blondie didn't write that song, but they were certainly Anglophiles!)
― Josefa, Saturday, 2 March 2024 14:44 (one month ago) link
I don't think you "ring" an object in the UK either though? People don't say "ring my phone", they say "ring me".
― The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Saturday, 2 March 2024 15:03 (one month ago) link
HP Baxxter has no problem ringing up da laydeez:
"I’ve always been the party pleaserThere’s not a doubt, I’ve checked all the ladies out
Ring me up!Skip to the dip now!What we say?Jigga Jigga!
Ooooohh! Ho-ho!Davay-davay-davay!Jigga Jigga!Allright!Aaaaaarrrghh!"
whether he has confused A with B, however, remains moot
― massaman gai (front tea for two), Saturday, 2 March 2024 15:05 (one month ago) link
ring a ring of roses?
songwriter confuses the bubonic plague with making a telephone call
― massaman gai (front tea for two), Saturday, 2 March 2024 15:07 (one month ago) link
You can, however, ring someone's bell
xpost
― airport convention (Matt #2), Saturday, 2 March 2024 15:07 (one month ago) link
anita baker - ring my bell
the white stripes - my doorbell
I did indeed circle both of these with a marker pen
― massaman gai (front tea for two), Saturday, 2 March 2024 15:11 (one month ago) link
oh, XP
― massaman gai (front tea for two), Saturday, 2 March 2024 15:12 (one month ago) link
xp to Tom Well I was thinking it's easy to slide from a common phrase like "ring my bell" to "ring my phone" and there's no confusion if Donna Summer is ringing someone else's phone. But in the phrasing of "Hot Stuff" she's first calling lots of different numbers and then one particular phone is being rung off the wall, so I was trying to imagine if in UK usage you can ring your own phone off the wall (actually someone else suggested the possibility first in another thread). But you said before that would be awkward phrasing, so maybe not.
― Josefa, Saturday, 2 March 2024 15:14 (one month ago) link
She's making so many phone calls that the resonance of the ringing coming through the earpiece is going to sonically blast her own phone off the wall.
― Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 2 March 2024 15:22 (one month ago) link
You can certainly ring a bell, true! Also the changes.
― The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Saturday, 2 March 2024 15:25 (one month ago) link
anita baker ward - ring my bell
― pplains, Saturday, 2 March 2024 16:36 (one month ago) link
He could play a guitar just like ringing a bell
― alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 2 March 2024 18:33 (one month ago) link
In "Safe From Harm" I'm pretty sure Massive Attack didn't mean to say "what happened to the deliberately treated small details of my childhood days"
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 12:08 (one month ago) link
Haha I have always wondered about that line
― Tim F, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 12:10 (one month ago) link