Donald Trump: Classic or Dud?

was nevertheless able to lead us into the future without mishap


how did that future work out, I can’t remember

Carter doing better out of office puts him ahead of every other president I know of tbf

Anybody who runs for President and wins is the worst President

Obama went on the Daily Show and John Stewart called him "timid" to his face.

I was initially skeptical about Obama (during the primary campaign, I thought he overpromised) but I do think he did some good things in spite of massive headwinds.

Has everyone somehow forgotten how much Republican obstruction he had to overcome?

It's like, yeah, why are you not able to achieve unprecedented groundbreaking political miracles in spite of massive racist resistance = you suck.

Republicans are so racist they're *still* running against Obama. And not even his policies, really, the very *idea* of Obama. You want reactionary, Trump originally ran and has always been more or less an explicitly anti-Obama reactionary, in as much as he has any consistent beliefs.

Back when I first realised that the GOP were working to obstruct Obama, I called it ‘cold civil war’ and nothing that has happened since 2008 in American political life can persuade me that I was wrong.

Seriously. Literally refusing to allow Obama to appoint a Supreme Justice might be the most audacious political act of my lifetime.

democrats always getting obstructed by those nasty republicans whatre you gonna do you know its unfortunate how theres always nothing they can do

the filibuster seems more and more like a convenient crutch to give them an out from legislating

democrats are born to lose, just playing their role

The general anti-government, anti-tax, "party of no" grievance shit was already present in the Newt era. But having a Black president pressed the accelerator.

CSA / Jim Crow / Contract With America / Tea Party / Limbaugh / Fox / MAGA bullshit... all a continuation of previously existing bullshit, but it's still odious.

And I don't see a lot of solutions except the stuff most of us are already doing.

how much of this could have been avoided if you hadn't given the south control of the narrative as a consolation prize?

how much of this couldve been avoid if democrats actions werent such that they receive multimillion dollar payouts from wall street immediately upon leaving office

The thing to do is blow up the part of West Virginia where Joe Manchin and his boat hang out.

without manchin someone else will just have to play the role

Right, I think the Manchin is helping to provide cover to other senators who are not comfortable with losing the filibuster.

also just the legislation he was blocking was stuff that for sure at least a handful of other dems were probably not enthusiastic about

Right.

At any rate he and the seat are gone in November, so the Dems will find another Trojan horse.

hey I didn't know anything about James Hemings until today*, so thanks Donald Trump thread Josh!

* pedantic note: saying he "invented" ice cream is not accurate—it had existed for thousands of years before he was born—but he did introduce it, macaroni and cheese, french fries, and a bunch of other French dishes to the US

At any rate he and the seat are gone in November, so the Dems will find another Trojan horse.

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theres a term for it i was trying to google it only turned up heat shield but i dont think thats it

I think Jefferson/Hemings are credited with popularizing it in America, that's why he gets a lot of credit. This is a good history:

https://www.monticello.org/research-education/thomas-jefferson-encyclopedia/ice-cream/

A little later another Black White House chef, Augustus Jackson, is credited with modernizing it in the US:

Jackson worked in the White House, too, as a chef for the First families, including James and Dolley Madison. (Apparently, the First Lady had eclectic taste that included ice cream studded with oysters.) After his tenure, he launched an ice cream business in Philadelphia, where many other Black pastry chefs and confectioners specialized in ice cream.

One of Jackson’s big innovations was making ice cream more stable by adding salt to the recipe, which lowers the freezing temperature. It also enhances other flavors. But that’s not all that Jackson did for ice cream.

While most early ice creams were frozen egg custards, Jackson developed a lighter kind of ice cream. “It was this eggless, uniquely American style,” Hopkins says. “And at some point, we made an industry out of it.” Jackson is the reason why many ice cream recipes now do not have eggs.

Jackson prospered by selling his ice cream to parlors and ice cream vendors in Philadelphia who were predominantly Black. And as Black ice cream entrepreneurs moved north during The Great Migration, as Hopkins’ podcast details, they spread ice cream culture.

the First Lady had eclectic taste that included ice cream studded with oyster

baller move

At any rate he and the seat are gone in November, so the Dems will find another Trojan horse

That being once again being the minority party in the Senate, no?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ut6MSMqxmlE

ah yeah I read about Jackson too! Super interesting history

trenchant thought: historians should stop doings surveys on which slaveowning aristocrat and/or war criminal presidents had the best vibes, and start telling us about the history of mac and cheese

Does any other nation have such a robust canonical survey mechanism for ranking their own heads of state?

Of course not -- we are, to quote Agnew, the greatest country in the history of the nation.

need to be ranking byzantine emperors instead, this guy went to harvard and sat on the boards of weapons manufactures after he left office who cares, lets talk about guys who had their step mothers blinded and sent to nunneries

That being once again being the minority party in the Senate, no?

Yeah holding the Senate seems like mostly a lost cause. I got a lil shiver the other day at the prospect of waking up in November with Republicans actually in charge of everything, which is clearly a non-zero possibility. I do think the Dems will take back the House, but who knows.

he inspired the classic song i cant drive 5 by sammy the red rocker hagar xp

Talk about the nanny state

what was he driving, a lawnmower?

nah even that would get higher than 5

Maybe drunk driving an electric wheelchair around Cabo Wabo

french fries, and a bunch of other French dishes

But not, apparently, French dressing.

Anyway back to the most important topic - which is, of course, ice cream.

There was a 19th century custom where you got a glass container called a penny lick; they were intentionally designed to look more full of ice cream than they actually were. Generally I think you were supposed to return them.

Sometimes (apparently) a boy would follow you to retrieve the cup.

St. Louisans sometimes claim that the ice cream cone was invented for the 1904 World's Fair. Which is not quite right, but some St. Louisans just can't ever shut up about the Fair. There are some good things about that city, but. If I had peaked 120 years ago? I might start looking for new things to talk about.

Yeah the World's Fair story is Italo Marchiony erasure: https://www.idfa.org/the-history-of-the-ice-cream-cone

(I was just reading about the history of ice cream cone production for work-related reasons not long ago.)

Yes, waffles already existed, and pastry-based cones are an ancient concept.

Trying to swerve back to the topic, Donald Trump likes McDonald's and McDonald's prefers to sell its ice cream-esque products in cups, rather than cones. Their milkshakes contain algae, and they seem to have stopped including a maraschino cherry. I choose to blame Donald Trump.

those milkshakes bring all the puke to my mouth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QI-xhtOhvGg

Conspiring with Grimace on his deadly milkshakes

McDonald's makes concrete milkshakes to throw at cops, boycott this woke corporation

McDonald's prefers to sell its ice cream-esque products in cups, rather than cones… and they seem to have stopped including a maraschino cherry.

I haven’t been inside a McDonalds since the 20th century, but turns out I still have the capacity to find their regional variations fascinating

idk if they still do but I've been inside at least one McDonald's in Miami that has their own version of a Cuban sandwich.

it was, however, dogshit. i don't even think they used the right bread

So you were not...

Lovin' it?

Any time I've been in a McDonald's recently there's been a fight

Who have you been fighting?

Hamas

It's pronounced "HAM-bur-gers"

clam chowdare

“Americans can expect that immediately upon President Trump’s return to the Oval Office, he will restore all of his prior policies, implement brand new crackdowns that will send shock waves to all the world’s criminal smugglers, and marshal every federal and state power necessary to institute the largest deportation operation in American history,” said Trump campaign spokeswoman Karoline Leavitt…

she seems nice

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/02/20/trump-mass-deportations-immigration/

will they use cattle cars?

What are the odds on Kyle Rittenhouse being in the administration?