that’s kind of foreign to me, too. I guess the main difference between now and when I was younger is I’m just hanging out at a friend’s place less than I used to. part of that is the shared urge to get out of the house and we’ll bounce around a bit before going back to our respective homes. people in my sphere also have tighter schedules when you figure in kids, different work hours, etc. so things can seem time-boxedobviously most of humanity’s greatness comes from just chilling
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Sunday, 18 February 2024 14:24 (two months ago) link
Man that is disappointing when people don’t want to engage in the post-movie stroll and chit-chat. Weather permitting of course.
― The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 February 2024 15:11 (two months ago) link
The whole idea of hanging out at a friend's house is dead for almost app my friends but two.
One of them now can't really have me over as much because he's promised not to drink in front of his kids anymore and most of the time we'd be drinking fancy whiskey or beer and watching football.
The other sometimes has me over or comes over but ALWAYS wants to go out while simultaneously saying she needs to save money.
But there is no activity more enjoyable to me than just hanging at a friend's pad or having them over mine. Don't gotta worry about "finding parking", or feeling overwhelmed in public which happens often to me lately.
And then more money to do more substantial things with these friends, like the road trip to see Snoop Dogg with this same friend and her boyfriend last year, which was an amazing two day trip
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Sunday, 18 February 2024 15:34 (two months ago) link
*all
yeah kids change the calculus. but my friend from the above post is childless and both he and his partners have jobs with very flexible schedules—so no excuse
― flopson, Sunday, 18 February 2024 15:35 (two months ago) link
Feel like I only ever hear about the Hugos because of blunders and controversies, maybe they should scrap them.Feel like I only hear about widespread efforts to remove books from libraries as the result of organised campaigns by a tiny coterie of right-wing creeps, maybe they should scrap libraries.Fuck sake.
― bae (sic), Sunday, 18 February 2024 16:55 (two months ago) link
tbf, removing books from libraries is done by external, (mostly) right-wing forces, and the Hugos shot themselves in the foot, thigh, and sternum during the 2023 awards, based on the details that have just come out
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Sunday, 18 February 2024 17:07 (two months ago) link
one thing im a bit confused by with the hugo stuff—isn’t babel by rf kuang quite widely acknowledged to be terrible? everyone i know who attempted reading it basically threw it across the room, and the excerpts ive read were awful
― flopson, Sunday, 18 February 2024 17:13 (two months ago) link
yes but that book throwing helped people increase muscle mass
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Sunday, 18 February 2024 17:27 (two months ago) link
shot themselves has tipsy been hearing about the 2024 awards since 2013 or was it something else
― bae (sic), Sunday, 18 February 2024 17:32 (two months ago) link
xpost I haven’t read the book, but it won the Nebula so apparently not everyone agreed it was terrible
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Sunday, 18 February 2024 18:01 (two months ago) link
Feel like I only ever hear about the Hugos because of blunders and controversies, maybe they should scrap them.
With respect, this might be a you problem, it's kept on being one of the two big awards (which is why the Sad / Rabid Puppies went after it, though they never really got very far) - if you don't follow sci-fi awards, where would you expect to hear of it?
xp also the Blackwell's book of the year for fiction (also my wife loved it)
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 18 February 2024 18:55 (two months ago) link
lol my primary source on Hugos is Chuck Tingle. I don't really have an opinion about them.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 18 February 2024 19:52 (two months ago) link
Hugo winners are a good way to get new scifi reading in - well, they were on point with NK Jemisin anyway she's awesome.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Sunday, 18 February 2024 21:32 (two months ago) link
Any awards that keep being given to Sean McGuire are deeply suspect awards. And they're popularly voted, so the literary equivalent of the Logies.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Sunday, 18 February 2024 21:46 (two months ago) link
Hmm, except that no one knows what the Logies are
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Sunday, 18 February 2024 22:07 (two months ago) link
xp I am assuming you're not deadnaming Seanan McGuire there?
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 18 February 2024 22:09 (two months ago) link
Just autocorrect kicking in, annoyingly
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Monday, 19 February 2024 02:50 (two months ago) link
I actually wasn't aware she'd had any other name.
And the Logies thing was my point.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Monday, 19 February 2024 02:51 (two months ago) link
Logies have only been open voting for a decade or so, you used to have to spend $2.95 on the form and 37¢ on the stamp, at least (so they were rigged by publicists instead of the public)Any organisation’s membership giving awards, contrarily, is a completely normal and reasonable process for awards. And rarely results in a significantly more demented slate than one which has juried noms and attendee voting tbf.(I have no opinion about the recipients of any of them in the last 8 years except that two went to a friend and those ones are, unrelatedly, good and justified. if tipsy wants to call for the awards to be scrapped bcz he has now heard of them four times, not twice, in eleven years, go ahead tho)
― bae (sic), Monday, 19 February 2024 09:34 (two months ago) link
all awards are bad
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 19 February 2024 09:45 (two months ago) link
thread winner
― mark s, Monday, 19 February 2024 09:49 (two months ago) link
Historic Hugos (and Nebulas) award winners still a dece enough guide to the best in the genre for newbies.
― Ward Fowler, Monday, 19 February 2024 10:02 (two months ago) link
if tipsy wants to call for the awards to be scrapped bcz he has now heard of them four times, not twice, in eleven years, go ahead tho
I dived into the whole sad puppies thing when it was going on — which ran for like five years, didn't it? — and now obviously this whole China debacle. All of which suggest — to, yes, somebody who doesn't pay much attention or attach any particular significance to the Hugos — that there are some organizational/structural issues or vulnerabilities. I don't care if it gets scrapped or not, but it looks like they're going to have some work to do to re-establish whatever credibility they had.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 19 February 2024 15:12 (two months ago) link
There are probably 50 different awards for SF writing given out yearly, but the only ones most people know of or care about are the Nebulas and the Hugos. That's why the Sad Weirdos tried to hijack the awards in the first place. It makes more sense to replace whoever was making censorship decisions in this case than to get rid of a fan voted award entirely.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 19 February 2024 15:21 (two months ago) link
― The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 17:20 (two months ago) link
NY Times is leaning toward mean takedowns: Alexandra Jacobs on Anne Lamott and Ducks, Newburyport's Lucy Ellmann on Danielle Dutton.
― paisley got boring (Eazy), Friday, 26 April 2024 15:27 (yesterday) link
where's the takedown of Ducks?
― symsymsym, Friday, 26 April 2024 15:48 (yesterday) link
no the author of Ducks (Ellmann) published a much-maligned takedown of Dutton
― sean gramophone, Friday, 26 April 2024 15:53 (yesterday) link
Ducking A!
― sarahell, Friday, 26 April 2024 15:58 (yesterday) link
well I read that punctuation incorrectly. I thought everyone loved Ducks! (The Canadian graphic novel)
― symsymsym, Friday, 26 April 2024 15:58 (yesterday) link
just because you can write a book doesn't mean you can review a book
― the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Friday, 26 April 2024 16:16 (yesterday) link
^underrated REO Speedwagon album
― ain't nothin but a brie thing, baby (Neanderthal), Friday, 26 April 2024 16:16 (yesterday) link