Whatever happened to Portugal?

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Also admire the commitment to double parking on both sides of the one-way narrow street.

B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 8 February 2024 17:57 (two months ago) link

Ha, going in May and hoping to avoid driving, but may rent a car to go to the drought-stricken south? Would love to hear your tips/experiences.

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Thursday, 8 February 2024 18:30 (two months ago) link

I’ve been in Porto and the north, saving Lisbon and points south for another time. Highly recommend Coimbra, just lovely, small, but had a liveliness to it since it’s a university town. Salazar’s alma mater!

B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 8 February 2024 19:06 (two months ago) link

Oof, apologies for the fucking Ventura billboards, at least in Porto ppl have been quite good at vandalizing those.

Coimbra not so much "a" but THE university town, it's in its main distinguishing feature. Lots of great stuff from there tho I do hate the whole black uniform serenade shit.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 8 February 2024 20:11 (two months ago) link

Hey I went to the University of Virginia a lot of performative “tradition” there too.

B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 8 February 2024 23:23 (two months ago) link

two months pass...

50 years ago today

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 25 April 2024 11:22 (six days ago) link

will head to my local portuguese cafe-bar for lunch :)

imago, Thursday, 25 April 2024 11:48 (six days ago) link

hopefully the proprietor isn't a salazar fan (i suspect he isn't)

imago, Thursday, 25 April 2024 11:50 (six days ago) link

Wish him a happy 25th and find out :)

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 25 April 2024 12:13 (six days ago) link

After an initial "Oh yes, I didn't know it was the 50th" and an initial "I was a little boy in South Africa then, wasn't a big deal to us", uncorked a resounding "all it did was create all these bloody corrupt governments!" x_x

Cited Jose Socrates. I nodded and smiled. Not my area of expertise. But...hmm

imago, Thursday, 25 April 2024 12:25 (six days ago) link

Anyone running a small customer-facing business has at least a 60% chance of being a reactionary crank, regardless of nationality.

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 25 April 2024 12:31 (six days ago) link

Sounds like a Chega voter all right!

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 25 April 2024 12:51 (six days ago) link

Happy 50th!

I was in Porto a couple of weeks ago having a marvellous time. That is, until a full-on (and pretty terrfiying) ne0 n4z1 protest started taking place right outside our apartment window. earlier in the day we'd also spotted a totally separate anti-abortion march going through the city. no it won't do

your mom goes to limgrave (dog latin), Thursday, 25 April 2024 13:03 (six days ago) link

Sad stuff. Friends back home are mobilizing against it and I feel a bit of guilt over not being there to contribute...not that things are great here either.

I do think (hope?) that the anti-abortion stuff is gonna turn more ppl off these fash wankers than anything else.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 25 April 2024 14:51 (six days ago) link

Damn. I'll be there in a few weeks (Lisbon > Madeira > Porto > ???), excited.

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Thursday, 25 April 2024 15:44 (six days ago) link

lisbon is great, just so great

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 April 2024 16:07 (six days ago) link

I really loved my mere week in Northern Portugal, want to go back and see Lisbon, Evora, etc.

Are you addicted to struggling with your horse? (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 25 April 2024 16:48 (six days ago) link

Where did you go in the north besides Porto?

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Thursday, 25 April 2024 16:53 (six days ago) link

The Douro valley, Vila Real, and Coimbra (which isn’t really that north)

Are you addicted to struggling with your horse? (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 25 April 2024 18:21 (six days ago) link

Oh nice, we're definitely planning on Douro and I want to go to Coimbra too.

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Thursday, 25 April 2024 18:39 (six days ago) link

We only stopped in Coimbra for lunch (and unluckily it was graduation day or something and packed with berobed students & their families), but it seemed really nice. I'd recommend this place if veg/an appeals: https://veg.fangas.pt/home-en/

rob, Thursday, 25 April 2024 19:44 (six days ago) link

My wife is vegetarian, thanks!

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Thursday, 25 April 2024 19:46 (six days ago) link

I have Lisbon vegetarian recommendations too...just give me a sec

rob, Thursday, 25 April 2024 19:49 (six days ago) link

I'm having trouble figuring out the names of some places we went, but I can say:

Ao 26 was the best strictly vegan place I went to, and what's cool about it is they do vegan versions of some of the trad Portuguese stuff you otherwise can't eat (e.g., francesinha).

Senhor Uva is good too (both of these are on the fancy side though), though it's tapas & wine and we were all still a little hungry at the end of the meal -- in contrast, Ao 26 was very filling.

But mostly I'd just say that it's easier to be vegetarian, even vegan, there than people who haven't been recently will tell you. Even down in Faro I got by okay

rob, Thursday, 25 April 2024 20:14 (six days ago) link

Excellent, tysm!

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Thursday, 25 April 2024 20:19 (six days ago) link

my pleasure! we were there last May, which is a great time to visit

rob, Thursday, 25 April 2024 20:23 (six days ago) link

rob, I went to Fangas Veg too! It's great, and the people are really nice!

Are you addicted to struggling with your horse? (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 25 April 2024 20:34 (six days ago) link

that's true, they were nice! there were also beautiful lace scarves hung up all over town the day we were there

rob, Thursday, 25 April 2024 20:49 (six days ago) link

I went to Portugal in 2005, a friend was involved in a garage rock festival in a place called Barreiro, I stayed in Lisbon and took the ferry across there each day. On the last day we had dinner with one of the bands playing, which meant I ate fish pie with Billy Childish, not a lifelong dream, but still very cool times. After the bands had all played I hung out with them until the sun was coming up, then made my way back to the ferry, there was literally one every 15 minutes but for some reason I decided to drunkenly run to catch the one that was leaving, tripped over a bit of pavement and landed straight on my face. Somebody helped me up and I said "am I ok?" and they looked at me grimly and shook their head. The ferry people called an ambulance and half an hour later they had taken the stones out of my face and sewn me up, I still have a scar on my chin but thankfully that's all - though for the next two weeks a few people asked me if I'd been in a motorbike accident and I had to say "no I just fell on my face." Anyway it's still a good memory overall and I think about it any time I see the (not disfiguring) scar in the mirror.

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 25 April 2024 20:57 (six days ago) link

Just found out Nuno Espírito Santo is from Barreiro, nice!

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 25 April 2024 20:59 (six days ago) link

xp That sounds like something I would've done in 2005

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 25 April 2024 21:35 (six days ago) link

people have had more lethal encounters with billy the kid tbf

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 April 2024 22:35 (six days ago) link

Fwiw it's my dream to emigrate to Portugal one day for some reason. I have been three times since 2018, falling in love with the country on my first visit. Can't wait to go back again

your mom goes to limgrave (dog latin), Friday, 26 April 2024 00:05 (five days ago) link

huh.. I've been to Spain but never Portugal, maybe I should go check it out

but I drink more sherry than port

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 26 April 2024 00:07 (five days ago) link

Enjoyed this piece, and I don't read Jacobin that often.

https://jacobin.com/2024/04/portugal-revolution-military-coup-anticolonialism

xyzzzz__, Friday, 26 April 2024 09:52 (five days ago) link

There's a bust of Willy Brandt in Porto, somewhere near Serralves, whose presence is explained by the SPD intervention that article mentions.

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 26 April 2024 11:00 (five days ago) link


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