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for the first week of my injury I also fast walked a mile and a half a day on crutches

Dear god in heaven I seriously cannot even fathom this. Even just about ten minutes of work with the PT when I was in the hospital (lap around the ortho floor, practicing stairs) was exhausting and left me with the most amazing core soreness--like, my ribs and obliques were just killed, not to mention my shoulders. I have a knee scooter now, which is much easier but also cumbersome to get around a very small house with lots of furniture.

My approach is usually to do nothing and just go into a deep depression, desperately hoping that I can eventually get back my fitness.

Yeah I'm afraid this will be me. Doesn't help that at 50 and perimenopausal, I'm already on the downward cliff of muscle mass and bone density.

I reached out to an aqua PT center (didn't even know there was one in town until I looked) and will plan to start there as soon as ortho says OK. In the meantime, he says three to six months before return to riding.

Thanks for the good wishes and for sharing injury experiences, it is helpful for sure.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 21:57 (two months ago) link

For any beginning runners perusing this thread, I got the None to Run app and it has really worked well for me. It's an alternative version of the couch to 5k that ramps up more slowly and with a somewhat different strategy. It felt good to me to work through the weeks (3 runs per week) and see progress without it being overwhelming.

Left to my own devices, I just suck at sticking with running. I need someone to just tell me wtf to do and I'll do it.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 22:04 (two months ago) link

I started the c25k thing this morning. It was hellish. I ride my bike a lot, so I thought I was in decent shape.

Nooooooope. Running felt kinda like being a big box of pots and pans rolling down a flight of stairs. Ordered some decent shoes. Will try it for a couple of weeks and see how it feels.

Cow_Art, Saturday, 10 February 2024 04:54 (two months ago) link

i think the c25k needs a week zero where you just walk around in the kit to get used to it all, work out places and times and how you're going to time the various bits.

koogs, Saturday, 10 February 2024 05:21 (two months ago) link

Consider None to Run (N2R)—it was specifically developed for people who started C25K and found it discouraging at first. I was also a pretty fit person and found my first attempts at running were WTF this is so much harder than I thought!

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Saturday, 10 February 2024 05:40 (two months ago) link

I'm getting to grips with the fact that some runs will just feel awful for no discernible reason - though the cold i have at the moment certainly doesn't help. But how was the run i've just done 18 seconds faster per k than the one two days ago even though they felt equally awful?

ledge, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 13:42 (two months ago) link

I'm convinced that the both the feeling and the result of any individual run is completely subject to the whims of the Gods for any given day

H.P, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 13:59 (two months ago) link

It's a fun little part of getting into running: how will I feel today? Oh, terrible? Great!

H.P, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 14:02 (two months ago) link

17 years in, it never really gets better. It almost always sucks. But it sucks in a familiar and consistent way. Hey there old friend, nice to see you again. Let's suffer together for a few hours.

Jeff, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 15:17 (two months ago) link

cool, i'm glad i picked such an uplifting new (er sort of) hobby!

i've signed up for a half marathon in may. hope i get some less awful runs in before then.

ledge, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 15:27 (two months ago) link

I often think half-marathon is the best of all distances

tobo73, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 17:25 (two months ago) link

If by best, you mean worst, maybe. It just hurts so bad. 10 mile hard tempo followed by a 5K race. But all distances are bad in their own special way.

Jeff, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 17:53 (two months ago) link

I do love running though. It's an interesting relationship we have.

Jeff, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 17:54 (two months ago) link

Running is sheer happiness. My body is letting me run so I'm getting my feelings back and a bit of ambition with spring around the corner and the first flowers in bloom on my running path today. Since I last posted here I did my 7.3K city run (fun, temperature was 2 degrees, decent time) and I've been running 2-3 times a week. The 9k that was my long train run is now the short one, and I'm starting to think of extending the new long one (I haven't measured it yet, something like 12k). I should start to time myself too. But right now, I'm just enjoying it.

Nabozo, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 19:20 (two months ago) link

Running IS fun! And if it isn’t, just chill and walk for a while. That has increasingly been my approach as I deal with aging and the increasing injuries that involves. It’s great to train and get faster but it’s also just nice to be outside, on one’s feet and moving.

tobo73, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 20:26 (two months ago) link

Yeah half-marathon is pretty much perfect, up to 25 maybe 30 is fine, but after that I'd get bored I think. I don't have the patience for running about 3.5 hours for a full marathon. Maybe I'll still do one someday just for the sake of it.

Dinsdale, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 22:33 (two months ago) link

Agreed. I'm thinking of signing up for the next half marathon in May, it will be the 10th anniversary of me running my first (and then I ran another directly after). It's a comfortable distance because it's long enough that time does not matter too much. I wouldn't be able not to set myself the objective to run faster than in 2014, although that might be a challenge, as the first half of my marathon was way faster than the second. It was a whole different race, going from blissful to "uh oh" at km 25 to horrible at km 32.

Nabozo, Thursday, 22 February 2024 07:08 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

Trying to come up with pun type names for a team we're entering in a relay competition. Anyone got any suggestions?

Google suggests things like Scrambled Legs, Chafing the Dream etc

groovypanda, Monday, 1 April 2024 09:46 (three weeks ago) link

Code Brown

Jeff, Monday, 1 April 2024 10:32 (three weeks ago) link

Shin Sprints
Plantar FASTiitis

hogarth brooks (unregistered), Monday, 1 April 2024 10:37 (three weeks ago) link

GU Hard or GU Home

hogarth brooks (unregistered), Monday, 1 April 2024 10:38 (three weeks ago) link

two weeks pass...

Last (and second) (and third ever) practice half marathon before the race in two weeks. My quickest and easiest so far, hope I haven't peaked too soon. It was ideal weather, will almost certainly be warmer (or bucketing it down) on the day.

ledge, Sunday, 21 April 2024 10:10 (six days ago) link

I also signed up for a 20 km race which is next Sunday. It's another urban one, a loop with a 150 meters ascent between km 4 and 12 and the rest mostly downhill. I couldn't run for a week due to an ankle problem, then I was on holidays in Greece for ten days, and just now we had an April shower of snow and the wind is freezing, so it's remarkable that I feel ready. I did a 15km train-run in Greece on Wednesday at a comfortable pace and 12-ish yesterday at a good pace that left me confident. I will go out once more, but I guess that's it for preparation.

Nabozo, Sunday, 21 April 2024 14:21 (six days ago) link

Good luck! Love a halfa.

H.P, Sunday, 21 April 2024 14:30 (six days ago) link

Same. I think it might be the best all-around distance. Go Ledge go!

tobo73, Sunday, 21 April 2024 14:58 (six days ago) link

My ankle fracture is healing well and I am out of the dreaded CAM boot, but have developed posterior tibia tendonitis. It has been 11 weeks sine the injury and I despair that it will be forever until I can do running running again

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Sunday, 21 April 2024 16:13 (six days ago) link

Had my first aqua PT session this week; I guess that will have to suffice for now.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Sunday, 21 April 2024 16:14 (six days ago) link

The tendonitis is a result of the ankle fracture somehow?

tobo73, Sunday, 21 April 2024 17:48 (six days ago) link

Probably from doing too much too soon after 8 weeks being non-weight-bearing. So basically my fault for thinking I knew better than my PT

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Sunday, 21 April 2024 21:24 (six days ago) link

Aha. Makes sense.

I’ve got tendonitis in both feet and possibly arthritis now. Confirmed bursitis in one hip. So I’m being super careful about training and recovery but getting old is a drag. Really want to do one more ultra in the next year or so if possible. But it might not be possible.

tobo73, Monday, 22 April 2024 00:39 (five days ago) link

What's everybody's favorite running shoe in 2024?

beard papa, Monday, 22 April 2024 18:59 (five days ago) link

New Balance FuelCell Rebel v4

Jeff, Monday, 22 April 2024 19:30 (five days ago) link

On Cloud something, they were on sale and seemed good enough

Nabozo, Monday, 22 April 2024 19:43 (five days ago) link

bought a pair of brooks ghost last month, I tried them and a pair of mizuna and the brooks felt almost like there was nothing on my feet.

ledge, Monday, 22 April 2024 19:44 (five days ago) link

Hoka Speedgoat or Arahi

tobo73, Monday, 22 April 2024 20:24 (five days ago) link

I had another Brooks model - can't recall which - and maybe coincidentally developed a case of PF, so I stopped wearing them immediately. Swapped out for a pair of Hoka walking shoes I'd purchased, and it has more or less gone away. I liked the Brooks, but I think maybe I just needed something with more support.

beard papa, Monday, 22 April 2024 20:36 (five days ago) link

Asics Gel-Cumulus have been all I've worn for the last few years.

brain (krakow), Monday, 22 April 2024 20:51 (five days ago) link

Apparently I am going to need a stability shoe to prevent over pronation. Must also accommodate orthotics. Any suggestions?

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Monday, 22 April 2024 22:34 (five days ago) link

I wear Hoka Arahi for support and use custom orthotics religiously. I think p much all decent shoes can handle orthotics tho.

tobo73, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 02:03 (four days ago) link

> Asics Gel-Cumulus
> Arahi
> FuelCell Rebel v4
> Hoka Speedgoat
> brooks ghost

thought i'd clicked the DRUKQS+ or autechre thread for a moment.

koogs, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 08:28 (four days ago) link

So I think I have PF - I don't feel anything at all when running, but heel pain (more like discomfort) first thing in the morning and low key noticeable throughout the day. Not worrying too much as it's been pretty stable since I noticed it a couple of months ago and I'll be running less once the HM is done. Any tips welcome, gonna try some exercises found on instagram!

ledge, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 10:55 (four days ago) link

This happened to me years ago. I got a pair of off-the-shelf green superfeet and they solved the problem.

tobo73, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 11:11 (four days ago) link

so you replaced your actual feet with green hulk super feet?

(ok I googled it, thx!)

ledge, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 12:26 (four days ago) link

Roll bare foot on tennis ball, concentrating on stretching the arch

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Tuesday, 23 April 2024 14:03 (four days ago) link


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