Non-Criterion Boutique Home Video Discussion (Kino, Warner Archive, Arrow, Indicator, Vinegar Syndrome, Code Red, etc.)

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I know its rights etc. but VS discs are sometimes region free and sometimes Region 1 only.. and it follows no logic or reason across films.

I got around this by buying a multiregion DVD/Bluray player, so now there is no stopping me.

will likely spring for Phase IV for the new cut, but in the UK, shipping is not great unless I go for a few titles at once, and I am still going through my last order.

also now I'm multiregion, teach me about criterion flash sales and where to look for buying a bunch of their stuff to send to UK. ( I dont think they have a UK sale and no criterion channel here either)

my opinionation (Hamildan), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 17:47 (two months ago) link

Ohhhh, did not know about Phase IV. That is rad.

I would give so much more of my $$$ to these boutiques if they would take a page from Kino's book and occasionally have more for-real deep discount sales. The frankly unnerving volume of Kino titles in my collection is a testament to this.

Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 18:17 (two months ago) link

Tsk, Old Lunch, I revived the thread the other day! :-D

Phase IV

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 18:25 (two months ago) link

That Indiewire article is great for sure but I would add to it the interesting and kinda more grassroots efforts focusing on silent films in particular, especially now that nearly all of the silent era is in the public domain. (I'm sure the silent movie thread on here has noticed this!) There are boutique labels there as well like Undercrank but also near individual efforts or very limited releases via a lot of Kickstarter efforts, and while some are more dedicated to basic preservation, a lot of them are remarkably good with higher end treatment, notes and supplements, etc. Redwood Films out of France has been really solid about all kinds of horror/horror adjacent titles in particular:

https://www.instagram.com/redwoodcreekfilms/

While Dave Glass's silent-era comedian collections have been awfully good too:

https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/reelcomedy/created

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 18:44 (two months ago) link

The frankly unnerving volume of Kino titles in my collection is a testament to this.

Now that the Kino imprimatur doesn't automatically mean "dodgy if not outright shitty video transfer" (at least on silent film landmarks), the biggest roadblock I have with them is the seeming total lack of curation. I get people being more completist with a Criterion or an Arrow or a Vinegar Syndrome. But I look at some people's Kino libraries and think, "You can't possibly want/need every single one of those titles ... can you?"

badpee pooper (Eric H.), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 19:57 (two months ago) link

Well, when they do those sales with discs running from $5-10 apiece, and you need to drop $50 on an individual order so you don't get screwed on shipping...an they can't always be all winners.

Yeah, their offerings are all over the place but I've had pretty good luck by doing some research before diving into the sales. I've gotten a ton of great stuff from them that I probably would've never even known about or had a chance to see if they hadn't put out a dirt-cheap Blu-ray of the thing. It probably helps if you have an affinity for both fine cinema and total garbage.

Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 21:38 (two months ago) link

The Big Bus, Moving Violations, and Blind Fury are definitely all winners!

the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 21:47 (two months ago) link

I mean, I consider The Apple a winner so

Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 22:14 (two months ago) link

I enjoy kino's chaotic neutral approach

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 22:30 (two months ago) link

The Big Bus, Moving Violations, and Blind Fury are definitely all winners!

lol I own all three of these discs and think they're on the more respectable side of the comedies I've obtained from Kino. Stuff like Million Dollar Mystery (a movie that was sponsored by and features prominent product placement for Glad bags) and Frank McLusky, C.I. (an Ace Ventura knock off with the guy who played Doofy in Scary Movie) are a couple of the pieces of trash even I feel bad for enjoying.

Judi Dench's Human Hand (methanietanner), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 22:31 (two months ago) link

kinda surprised they haven't released Midnight Madness on Kino yet

the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 22:49 (two months ago) link

I enjoy kino's chaotic neutral approach

Oh god, now my mind will be preoccupied with slotting the other eight

badpee pooper (Eric H.), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 00:54 (two months ago) link

Heads up for people buying the Phase IV 4k/blu- the guy at Vinegar Syndrome who reassembled the original cut(s) says that the Saul Bass shorts that VS didn't carry over from the 101 Films UK release are being cleaned up and should be released within the year by another, as yet unnamed label

You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 21:25 (two months ago) link

one month passes...
three weeks pass...

Deep Discount is doing a BOGO sale on titles from the defunct Olive Films label through Friday. Lots of vintage Hollywood genre films and oddball stuff. Not sure how many of these will get picked up by other boutiques, so this might be one of your last shots at scoring these on disc.

https://www.deepdiscount.com/deep-olive-films-bogo-sale/b233819

Got some things I pre-ordered after Xmas from Radiance today

https://i.imgur.com/PSqkP6D.jpeg

Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Monday, 29 April 2024 19:17 (three days ago) link

Finally, L'amour fou!

xp I'm surprised Deep Discount has so many left in stock. That company officially closed up shop last summer.

birdistheword, Monday, 29 April 2024 20:24 (three days ago) link

Whew, I thought you meant Deep Discount for a second. Olive, though.....ehhhhh. It's telling that I didn't even notice they were gone. They released a lot of titles I wanted to buy, but their stuff was always overpriced, and their minimal effort, bare-bones discs were always of the late-'90s 'treating an interactive menu as if it's a special feature' variety, so I'm not exactly despondent over the loss.

Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Monday, 29 April 2024 20:37 (three days ago) link

They might have dumped a bunch of their stock on DD, who are merely one arm of a huge online physical media retail empire (encompassing Critic's Choice Video and Collector's Choice Music amongst others).

I ended up not getting anything from that sale because almost everything I wanted was already backordered.

I buy from Deep Discount pretty regularly, as well as their CD site, import-cds.com.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Monday, 29 April 2024 23:54 (three days ago) link

Yeah, Olive was pretty disappointing. Really wish that wasn’t the case because there aren’t many boutiques and they were even based in Chicago (I passed by their office all the time the short time I lived there) but you could find most of the same titles in better quality with better presentation from UK boutiques. They did up their game with their Signature series but that should have been their baseline.

birdistheword, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 01:03 (two days ago) link

Olive walked so Kino Lorber Studio Classics could run.

Kino doesn't have their shit together either. They really need to work on their QC. They put out so much stuff, I feel like they rush them out the door without taking the time to check everything over. Their UHD's have been really hit-or-miss for that reason, like the sloppy, quasi-stereo output on the original mono soundtrack on The Manchurian Candidate (the original 1962 film, not the remake) or the massive fuck-up on The Silence of the Lambs. They usually refuse to fix these things when they're called out.

birdistheword, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 19:11 (two days ago) link

Olive walked (poorly) so Kino Lorber Studio Classics could run (also poorly).

Self-Fix

I want to get the Saul Bass giant ant sci-fi movie blu-ray but it's probably not worth buying a Blu-Ray player just for that

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 20:46 (two days ago) link

(were they giant? i thought they were normal size)

koogs, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 23:13 (two days ago) link

Them Phase IV Ants

nickn, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 23:24 (two days ago) link

Ha, I don’t know, the poster/cover art I’ve seen made them look huge

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 23:25 (two days ago) link

Regular sized ants but they make it up in volume.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 23:31 (two days ago) link

spoilers, sorry

koogs, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 06:21 (yesterday) link


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