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Woops, morrisp, my mistake

Virginia Wolfman (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 5 February 2024 15:56 (three months ago) link

i find the hate that luke combs is getting over this to be extremely excessive! idc about the cover one way or another, but it's very very faithful to the original (even keeps the "checkout girl" line without changing the gender), and combs has been effusive in his praise for chapman and the original. tracy gave the version her blessing, performed it on the grammys as a duet. i could go on. just feels like it hits the sweet spot of people's very weird cultural feelings about country music and what it signifies, without considering the particulars of the situation.

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Monday, 5 February 2024 16:17 (three months ago) link

yeah it's dumb. I don't care about him or his version at all but there doesn't seem to be anything worth hating there. He's made her a bunch more money and keeps talking about her. That's great!

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 5 February 2024 16:19 (three months ago) link

I think you can be happy for Tracy Chapman and find the cover barely mediocre at the same time.

clemenza, Monday, 5 February 2024 16:22 (three months ago) link

yeah sometimes I feel like people are acting like Crazy Town remade the song or something

never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Monday, 5 February 2024 16:23 (three months ago) link

What it's interesting about the Combs cover in the context of contemporary country music is how the character in the song's got a plan to get out of town because it sucks and he can't find the love he wants, whereas most country songs by men celebrate the small town or defensive about it even if they gotta be blind-drunk to celebrate/get defensive about it.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 February 2024 16:25 (three months ago) link

People seemed upset that his version charted higher than hers, but both made the top 10 (#6 vs. #2). Given all the differences between then and now in terms of how songs become hits (not to mention Billboard's ever-changing chart formulas), that difference really doesn't seem worth arguing about.

jaymc, Monday, 5 February 2024 16:29 (three months ago) link

^^^ exactly

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 February 2024 16:30 (three months ago) link

I know his version of the song was huge but it really feels more like a Tracy Chapman cultural moment then a Luke Combs breakthrough

omar little, Monday, 5 February 2024 16:31 (three months ago) link

just feels like it hits the sweet spot of people's very weird cultural feelings about country music and what it signifies

I was spending time on Bluesky around the time the cover came out, and the number of... takes... around this (which seemed to have very little to do with music) were just stultifying

jake morgendorffer core (morrisp), Monday, 5 February 2024 16:33 (three months ago) link

Luke Combs, until yesterday or maybe the day before my wife confused him with Luke Bryan, which shows what kind of impression he made.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 5 February 2024 16:34 (three months ago) link

Yeah 1988's #6 meant a lot more than 2023's #2

badpee pooper (Eric H.), Monday, 5 February 2024 16:35 (three months ago) link

Seriously.

Luther Campbell should cover "Fast Car," let's see what the internet thinks of that.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 5 February 2024 16:46 (three months ago) link

Maybe he'll make something

Virginia Wolfman (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 5 February 2024 16:54 (three months ago) link

if luke bryan covered fast car it’d somehow end up being about how hot she looks in jeans driving his fast car

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 5 February 2024 17:05 (three months ago) link

i find the hate that luke combs is getting over this to be extremely excessive! idc about the cover one way or another, but it's very very faithful to the original (even keeps the "checkout girl" line without changing the gender), and combs has been effusive in his praise for chapman and the original. tracy gave the version her blessing, performed it on the grammys as a duet. i could go on. just feels like it hits the sweet spot of people's very weird cultural feelings about country music and what it signifies, without considering the particulars of the situation.


it’s a story that maps perfectly along the lines of present day culture wars except that in this case the ostensible victim threw a wrench into the proceedings by expressing feelings of gratitude instead of disrespect. but most ppl who engage with art in this fashion are not able to adjust their POVs when presented with conflicting information

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Monday, 5 February 2024 17:06 (three months ago) link

I was annoyed by the Luke Combs cover until I heard it and saw him basically paying homage to Tracy Chapman every time he happened to cross my radar; at that point it was clear she wasn’t being done dirty and I got over myself.

the new drip king (DJP), Monday, 5 February 2024 17:06 (three months ago) link

Almost as moving for me as listening to Chapman were the adoring looks that Combs kept showing her. The dude obv means it.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 February 2024 17:10 (three months ago) link

And what if you heard the song 30 times and decided it wasn't any good without knowing who did it or any backstory whatsoever?

clemenza, Monday, 5 February 2024 17:11 (three months ago) link

I mean, it's fine, I am not bitter or anything, but I'd been playing a bluegrass-ish version of Fast Car on mandola/in for like a decade. But now I can't, so.

Virginia Wolfman (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 5 February 2024 17:12 (three months ago) link

Also, Chapman is making beaucoup bucks off this cover, reportedly

badpee pooper (Eric H.), Monday, 5 February 2024 17:13 (three months ago) link

And what if you heard the song 30 times and decided it wasn't any good without knowing who did it or any backstory whatsoever?

― clemenza, Monday, February 5, 2024 1

I...don't think anyone here was coercing anyone into liking the cover? The consensus seems to be, "This is fine, hooray for Tracy Chapman."

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 February 2024 17:14 (three months ago) link

From last July. It's more now:

How Much Has Tracy Chapman Earned from Luke Combs’ ‘Fast Car’ Cover? https://t.co/ExmbH1Hb2T

— billboard (@billboard) June 16, 2023

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 February 2024 17:15 (three months ago) link

And what if you heard the song 30 times and decided it wasn't any good without knowing who did it or any backstory whatsoever?

obv it’s time for reeducational flogging

the new drip king (DJP), Monday, 5 February 2024 18:26 (three months ago) link

I think he was talking about hearing the cover, which is in a sense the very definition of a "reeducational flogging" for those that didn't know or remember the original.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 5 February 2024 18:30 (three months ago) link

I think the question we really need to be asking is What is Tracy Chapman's net worth?

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 5 February 2024 18:39 (three months ago) link

I heard her uncle invented the Chapman Stick.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 5 February 2024 18:39 (three months ago) link

Also, Chapstick.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 5 February 2024 18:39 (three months ago) link

My question was a response to this: "most ppl who engage with art in this fashion are not able to adjust their POVs when presented with conflicting information." When I decided the cover was tepid and pointless (I exaggerated; I didn't need to hear it 30 times, more like three or four), I had no conflicting information; I had no information at all.

I am, again, very happy to see Tracy Chapman get all those royalties. Given a choice (and assuming equal compensation, which maybewouldn't be the case), I would rather the origninal had made a return like "Running Up That Hill" via a movie or TV show. I've always loved hearing the orignal on the radio a few times a year almost nonstop since it was a hit--it always comes from some other place next to whatever's around it. But what often happens in terms of radio in these cases is the origninal disappears in favor of the cover--ask Harold Melvin or Percy Sledge. (Actually, you can't.) She'll get the royalties, you just might not hear Tracy Chapman singing "Fast Car" anymore.

clemenza, Monday, 5 February 2024 18:40 (three months ago) link

I mean, she also made $450,000 after Nicki Minaj tried to sample "Baby Can I Hold You."

2021 story on that

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underwater as a compliment (Eazy), Monday, 5 February 2024 18:40 (three months ago) link

Jesus--"origninal" twice?

clemenza, Monday, 5 February 2024 18:41 (three months ago) link

Her four most recent setlists:

FEB 4 2024
Tracy Chapman at 66th Grammy Awards

Fast Car

NOV 2 2020
Tracy Chapman at Late Night with Seth Meyers, New York, NY, USA
Talkin' 'bout a Revolution

APR 16 2015
Tracy Chapman at Late Show With David Letterman, New York, NY, USA

Stand by Me

DEC 2 2012
Tracy Chapman at Kennedy Center Honors 2012

Hound Dog
Sweet Home Chicago

underwater as a compliment (Eazy), Monday, 5 February 2024 18:43 (three months ago) link

a similar example as far as covers might go was when No Doubt covered "It's My Life", the cover was ubiquitous for awhile but i hardly hear it anymore but i do hear Talk Talk's original out in the wild a lot.

omar little, Monday, 5 February 2024 18:43 (three months ago) link

xxpost Clever of you to change the spelling to get the trademark.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 5 February 2024 18:43 (three months ago) link

xxxxxpost You think the radio stations that were playing the Tracy Chapman version are going to play the Combs version instead?

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 5 February 2024 18:43 (three months ago) link

Depending upon the station, I hear the Simply Red and Michael Bolton covers regularly. I thought they'd disappear too. They haven't.

clemenza, Monday, 5 February 2024 18:45 (three months ago) link

Not all stations, but some will for sure. Whatever stations at whatever point in the future are directed at the audience who made the cover a hit, that's what they'll play.

clemenza, Monday, 5 February 2024 18:47 (three months ago) link

Everyone, I have to break in and mention that I don't know why-in-the-f I said (above) that the original song was in the "Barbie" movie; I was thinking of a totally different song from the same era. Thanks for not calling me on this "brain f*rt" (...a phrase a loathe, but I'm going to punish myself by using it here).

jake morgendorffer core (morrisp), Monday, 5 February 2024 18:47 (three months ago) link

Clearly you think all female folk singers from the late '80s sound the same.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 5 February 2024 18:51 (three months ago) link

At this point Chapman's version has more than double the Spotify streams than Combs' version-- 800 million to 376 million. And that's after Combs being on the charts for 44 weeks.

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 5 February 2024 18:52 (three months ago) link

Im trying to imagine where they could possibly have used “Fast Car” in the Barbie movie

the new drip king (DJP), Monday, 5 February 2024 18:52 (three months ago) link

Ken sings it

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 5 February 2024 18:53 (three months ago) link

I bet they could've made Allan sing it

badpee pooper (Eric H.), Monday, 5 February 2024 18:54 (three months ago) link

Maybe when they are driving the car?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 5 February 2024 18:54 (three months ago) link

That must have been what got my wires crossed, yeah...

jake morgendorffer core (morrisp), Monday, 5 February 2024 18:54 (three months ago) link

"Fast Car" might have actually made more sense than "Closer to Fine" as a driving away song but it's too much of a bummer

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 5 February 2024 18:55 (three months ago) link

(xposts) That's good--honestly, my engagement with Spotify is minimal. I'm thinking more in terms of radio, and, again, going by the dogged persistance of many bad cover versions I could name.

clemenza, Monday, 5 February 2024 18:56 (three months ago) link

There's also an L.A. car chase iirc

badpee pooper (Eric H.), Monday, 5 February 2024 18:56 (three months ago) link

and speaking of "dogged persistence"

badpee pooper (Eric H.), Monday, 5 February 2024 18:56 (three months ago) link

Closer to Fast Car

Virginia Wolfman (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 5 February 2024 19:00 (three months ago) link


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