Best Werner Herzog Film

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Saw the documentary (about him) tonight--pretty good. His ubiquity as a pop-culture figure was news to me. I still haven't seen Aguirre. It's on Tubi or FilmRise right now--may finally just give in and watch it on TV.

clemenza, Friday, 2 February 2024 01:23 (two months ago) link

He was always a name director, and Roger Ebert championed him throughout his career, but I want to say he became a true pop culture figure after Grizzly Man became a pretty big success. Before that movie came out, I don't think people would know him unless they had an active interest in film culture. It probably helped that he's in the film and his distinctive voice provides the narration - it became something people latched on to, and then of course they'd find out about his crazy history as a filmmaker and suddenly he's up there with David Lynch as this unusual auteur everyone found so fascinating.

birdistheword, Friday, 2 February 2024 02:31 (two months ago) link

I was thinking of the two or three animated clips in the film, including The simpsons. And appearing on what looked to be some online Henry Rollins interview show (which I wouldn't wish on anybody).

clemenza, Friday, 2 February 2024 02:40 (two months ago) link

The docmentary presents Grizzly Man as a turning point, yes. Only ever saw it once, remember it as disturbing and exasperating.

clemenza, Friday, 2 February 2024 02:41 (two months ago) link

I think it was particularly this part that did it. His delivery is classic, so flat and definitive.

I believe the common denominator of the universe is not harmony, but chaos, hostility and murder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWYaC5YBaJk

He basically says the same thing in Burden of Dreams, which reappeared in My Best Fiend. For me at least the later documentary def was a step at making him a character.

dan selzer, Friday, 2 February 2024 02:53 (two months ago) link

Encounters At The End Of The World was his next doc after Grizzly Man and it gave us this classic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWH_9VRWn8Y

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 2 February 2024 05:07 (two months ago) link

That gets some attention in the documentary. What they really toss off is everything between Aguirre and Fitzcarraldo. All you get from Stroszek is two stills without commentary.

clemenza, Friday, 2 February 2024 18:07 (two months ago) link

That’s his best stretch! No one gives Heart of Glass any love, even less for Woyzeck. Herzog’s humanism gets overlooked for all the “LOL wacky they’re midgets” and “Kinski go off king” and the “Herzog Plays Herzog” of the last couple decades.

B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 2 February 2024 18:18 (two months ago) link

And the 70s documentaries might as well not exist. Land of Silence and Darkness is so great.

B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 2 February 2024 18:20 (two months ago) link

Land of Silence and Darkness and Fata Morgana in the same damned year!

badpee pooper (Eric H.), Friday, 2 February 2024 18:22 (two months ago) link

an acquaintance of mine part of a herzog film once and he said he is actually just the best guy, and a very inspiring person to work for.

omar little, Friday, 2 February 2024 19:26 (two months ago) link

I quite liked The Twilight World when I read it the other week.

JoeStork, Friday, 2 February 2024 19:48 (two months ago) link

I recently watched Herzog's film about Gertrude Bell, starring Nicole Kidman and James Franco. If there is ever an updated poll that includes Herzog's films since 2007 I will definitely not vote for Queen of the Desert. It's bad.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 2 February 2024 20:04 (two months ago) link

His movies with Bruno are absolutely some of my favorites. I adore that guy and could watch him forever.

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Friday, 2 February 2024 20:46 (two months ago) link

Haven’t seen the queen of the Desert one yet, I have an unopened blu-ray

B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 2 February 2024 20:46 (two months ago) link

The Queen of the Desert has nice location shots, lighting, costumes - all the things that an experienced professional crew can bring to a film. It treats arabs as worthy human beings rather than cartoons, which is good. But the script leans hard into schmaltzy romance and the dialogue isn't much better than your basic Hallmark Channel soap opera. iow, it's bad, but sort of tolerable for the travelogue elements.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 2 February 2024 21:27 (two months ago) link

otm

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Saturday, 3 February 2024 01:09 (two months ago) link


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