IT'S BETTER THAN DRINKIN' ALONE: The Official ILM Track-by-Track BILLY JOEL Listening Thread

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It kinda works for me except that the vocal doesn't sound like Billy at all somehow. If you told me it was an AI synthesis I would probably believe it and think it was mildly impressive.
I like that it's somewhat different to his previous stuff, and frankly it must have been pretty hard to break that long a silence (oddities notwithstanding).

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 1 February 2024 22:10 (two months ago) link

yeah i wonder about that vocal too. it sounds like billy to me, but not 2024 billy

i don't hate it, but i think the arrangement sounds like AI too (i wouldn't have minded just piano, and i definitely wouldn't have minded billy's live band), and it really really could have used an actual chorus.

fact checking cuz, Thursday, 1 February 2024 22:27 (two months ago) link

I like it, but man, it really reminds me of another song that I can't put my finger on.

pplains, Friday, 2 February 2024 03:15 (two months ago) link

Could have used an actual melody. I figure his voice must be Auto-Tuned to hell(?)

jake morgendorffer core (morrisp), Friday, 2 February 2024 03:46 (two months ago) link

I like it, but man, it really reminds me of another song that I can't put my finger on.

End of the Road by Boyz II Men? Because that's what is somehow getting mixed up in my head.

MarkoP, Friday, 2 February 2024 15:46 (two months ago) link

I think his voice sounds like 2024 Billy, he sounds older here and of course the studio sands away the rough edges from live performances. did detect auto-tune as well which tends to 'youngify' voices.

never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Friday, 2 February 2024 18:51 (two months ago) link

The orchestra feels unnecessary, but then I realize we're talking about one of the last of the stadium acts. The piano dynamics would really stand out without all the backing.

Feels pre-Glass Houses in a good way. Maybe his first song without a "rock" band arrangement since then (though I'm not going back to the last few albums to check)?

underwater as a compliment (Eazy), Friday, 2 February 2024 18:59 (two months ago) link

since when did he use co-writers? I don't care, but it's striking.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 February 2024 19:03 (two months ago) link

I missed that there were co-writers (hadn't read about it until just now). Interesting that it involves the same guy who wrote Pussycat Dolls' legit-good "I Hate This Part." Guessing we'll hear at some point how this song was built.

underwater as a compliment (Eazy), Friday, 2 February 2024 19:13 (two months ago) link

my guess is the older you get, more time you spend on the toilet and sleeping, less time to write

never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Friday, 2 February 2024 19:19 (two months ago) link

I like it, but man, it really reminds me of another song that I can't put my finger on.

The changes and orchestration remind me of Chicago's "Hard to Say I'm Sorry"...

underwater as a compliment (Eazy), Friday, 2 February 2024 20:13 (two months ago) link

Which of the four of them wrote the line, "I see you now / As we're laying in the darkness"? Is the narrator wearing night-vision goggles(?)

jake morgendorffer core (morrisp), Friday, 2 February 2024 20:54 (two months ago) link

Used the flashlight on his phone

assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 2 February 2024 21:00 (two months ago) link

It's his muse he can see in the darkness.

underwater as a compliment (Eazy), Friday, 2 February 2024 21:05 (two months ago) link

since when did he use co-writers?

i think this is more a case of the co-writers using him. if
i've got the story straight, they approached him, unsolicited, with an unfinished song and asked him to help top it off.

fact checking cuz, Friday, 2 February 2024 22:20 (two months ago) link

Hope they put bread in his jar

jake morgendorffer core (morrisp), Friday, 2 February 2024 22:54 (two months ago) link

I think I thought it was "Only Time Will Tell" by Asia, but that's it's squirmier than that.

pplains, Saturday, 3 February 2024 04:14 (two months ago) link

First impression: better than "Now and Then," but not exactly grabbing me. Hate what I'm hearing as auto-tuning, and the cheesy "arena drums plus strings" production. The actual song seems fine if not special - I could see it being a bit of a grower if it closed out an album, at the tail end of a mixed bag of pastiches on Side B.

not the one who's tryin' to dub your anime (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 3 February 2024 12:24 (two months ago) link

yeah it’s a bit “Where’s the Orchestra” isn’t it

assert (matttkkkk), Saturday, 3 February 2024 13:20 (two months ago) link

This damn song has been stuck in my head since the Grammys, and I’m not happy about it…

atmospheric river phoenix (morrisp), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 03:23 (two months ago) link

So apparently "Vienna" is having a moment? My 16-year-old daughter is working up a cover of it. It's not my favorite key but I will get there somehow.

Virginia Wolfman (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 9 February 2024 12:56 (two months ago) link

i finally heard the new song & i like it well enough. enough to be interested in hearing more, anyway.

is Freddy Wexler any relation to Jerry Wexler? Freddy’s wikipedia entry starts at 2008 & eschews any real biographical info

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 9 February 2024 15:37 (two months ago) link

BJ likes the disposable vapes apparently

calstars, Friday, 9 February 2024 15:49 (two months ago) link

So apparently "Vienna" is having a moment?

it's his tiktok hit!

fact checking cuz, Sunday, 11 February 2024 22:32 (two months ago) link

It’s a good song.

The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 12 February 2024 12:02 (two months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOf6CMbHPuA

Thru the ages

Maresn3st, Friday, 16 February 2024 19:20 (two months ago) link

That was all right, but man, Billy. Don't give Elton any ideas.

pplains, Saturday, 17 February 2024 00:30 (two months ago) link

two weeks pass...

i really really hate this guy and his music but ... i heard "Sleeping with the Television on" and didn't recognize it, so had to Shazam. really interesting to read everybody's thoughts on it here. i haven't listened to everything the man's made, but i agree this is a standout track, probably the best think i've ever heard from him. the rink organ is a shame but it's a pretty solid little power pop thing otherwise. can hear the comparisons to Joe Jackson but i think mostly it sounds like Squeeze in terms of the composition

budo jeru, Sunday, 3 March 2024 00:16 (one month ago) link

killer song. my first karaoke performance coming out of the pandemic closure years!

not the one who's tryin' to dub your anime (Doctor Casino), Monday, 4 March 2024 17:22 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

dunno if this was ever posted, but I loved this story about the struggle to make Piano Man a hit: https://keithyates.com/the-time-a-stiff-caught-fire/

Vinnie, Sunday, 21 April 2024 00:48 (one week ago) link

Some might say a struggle best left alone

calstars, Sunday, 21 April 2024 00:55 (one week ago) link

wow, that was quite a read. had no idea it played out like that at all.

not the one who's tryin' to dub your anime (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 21 April 2024 03:11 (one week ago) link

Sometimes the authorities say,
“Best leave this one alone”

calstars, Sunday, 21 April 2024 03:21 (one week ago) link

It's better than leaving alone

Vinnie, Monday, 22 April 2024 12:01 (six days ago) link

That was a great read!

rendered nugatory (morrisp), Monday, 22 April 2024 14:01 (six days ago) link

did anyone watch the televised MSG 100 concert?

watching now, idk i guess i’m
a dork but it’s kinda nice

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 27 April 2024 21:44 (yesterday) link

Vienna was lovely <3

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 27 April 2024 21:45 (yesterday) link

That "Piano Man" story is readymade for a Netflix treatment. The scrappy group of Fresno longhairs who made Billy Joel a star


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