LCD Soundsystem

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ugh, "watching the whiplash"

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 15:23 (two months ago) link

I find it amusing he actually covered "Jump Into the Fire" by Nilsson because when I first heard that song my thought was "ah, that's where LCD got it from"

dunno if "Home" cribs a Byrne song, but I like it better than any solo Byrne I've heard, for what that's worth. there is probably a site out there dedicated to compiling all the LCD references out there, similar to how they do for Daft Punk and Stereolab. the one that surprised me was "Dance Yrself Clean" being mostly cribbed from a very obscure 12 inch someone found, idk why but something about that bothered me. like maybe he thought he could get away with that one. Daft Punk did that a lot too.

frogbs, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 15:23 (two months ago) link

ivy., I did the exact same and felt the exact same

I can’t decide if I like or dislike his MES impressions on “Edge” and “Daft Punk”, I think in the end I like it

I need to listen to Juan Mclean, it seems

in an aeroplane under the sea (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 15:24 (two months ago) link

This 2003 Fader article about the Rapture is interesting because it's kind of right on the cusp, when "House of Jealous Lovers" broke through. DFA here is only discussed as a record label — albeit one with a tremendous amount of input into its artists' releases. Lots of discussion of Murphy and Goldsworthy, but not even a mention of LCD Soundsystem. "The Rapture is DFA's flagship band," lol sure.

https://www.thefader.com/2015/09/17/cover-story-the-rapture-issue-15

idk i still really like the first album + early singles, sound of silver is pretty good, and even this is happening has its moments, just he gets more blatant/less creative with his inspirations as things go on and everything suffers for it

ufo, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 15:28 (two months ago) link

I think of the references and ripoffs sort of like cheeky sampling.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 15:40 (two months ago) link

would you like to hear an old iggy pop song with worse vocals and lyrics

ivy., Tuesday, 30 January 2024 15:40 (two months ago) link

Sampling is already cheeky! Sampling is post-modern. Cribbing is not cheeky. I get as bothered on this topic about Schnittke Symphony 1 as I do about “Drunk Girls”

in an aeroplane under the sea (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 15:42 (two months ago) link

Xp lol otm

in an aeroplane under the sea (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 15:42 (two months ago) link

early singles and first album are still great and fun. after that... i really love "someone great." that's it unfortunately

― ivy., Tuesday, January 30, 2024 10:20 AM (twenty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

juan maclean, however, nothing but excellence

― ivy., Tuesday, January 30, 2024 10:21 AM (twenty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Agree with both of these posts.

silverfish, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 15:48 (two months ago) link

Still think "Yeah" is one of the best tracks of the 00s, so I still consider myself a fan of this band

silverfish, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 15:52 (two months ago) link

Has he ever talked about ripping off bands in interviews? Like, does he go up to his bandmates and say this one is like David Bowie, or this one is like talking heads?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 16:05 (two months ago) link

Writing a new song over a replay of an old song felt more interesting before every big pop song was doing this (or at least including blatant references to big hits of the past). Looking at it charitably, it's not that different from Jamaican "versions" and sometimes results in great songs (sometimes not).

The Dance Yrself Clean / Jamaica Running thing was pretty sus if they didn't credit the songwriters/publishers right off.

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 16:21 (two months ago) link

Always thought the most effective aspect of LCD was the sense of time and place - the 2000s stuff captures the feel of being ~32. Not music to be played while partying until sunrise but while drinking a couple of beers or glasses of wine and remembering when you were partying until sunrise (and the bands that moved you when you were 22).

Everything I've heard post-reunion (which is not a ton tbf, it's been so bad I'm not going to search out more) has been very going through the motions.

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 16:22 (two months ago) link

Yeah, I file them along with Sleater-Kinney, or maybe the Pixies. Really liked phase one at the time, no interest in the reunion.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 16:53 (two months ago) link

I don't know if the s/t is considered an album, but it's my favorite of theirs. "Daft Punk," "Tribulations," "Beat Connection," "Give It Up," "Losing My Edge," and "Yeah" are all classics. There's a raw energy to those early recordings that captures the magic of their live performances better than the future studio albums.

Indexed, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 17:15 (two months ago) link

Not sure what tainted their legacy more: the tedious "last tour/show/residency ever" (which they've done twice or 3x?) or more recently the late-stage crypto/NFT cashgrabs.

All that said, "Beat Connection" is the song I'm always surprised I still like when it comes on shuffle.

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 17:20 (two months ago) link

I actually just keep getting more into LCD Soundsystem. I enjoyed the first two albums when they were fresh, and I like them even more now.

It definitely helps that I don't have a huge vocabulary with his influences. I don't even WANT to know all the artists he lists in Losing My Edge, etc. Sometimes they're really obvious to me and sometimes they're not. Agree that the one that sounds like Heroes is probably too on the nose and it was a little disappointing when I realized just how hard he was leaning on other artists. However, there are a few where I definitely felt LCD's version was an improvement on the source material; I'm not going to listen to Kraftwerk's Robots, but I love Get Innocuous. Disintegration is one of my favorite Cure songs and Tonite is one of my favorite LCD Soundsystem songs and the similarities don't bother me at all.

The records I listen to most are The Long Goodbye and Electric Lady Sessions. Definitely a band that benefits from the looseness of live performance.

peace, man, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 17:23 (two months ago) link

first time I saw them they ended with a 20 minute version of "Yeah", nothing they did the next two times I saw them was anywhere close to that

frogbs, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 17:24 (two months ago) link

I made this playlist a few years ago based on a reddit (I think) post that matched up all the This Is Happening songs against the originals. It's pretty interesting hearing them side by side like this

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/58KqaKB2yPO1vJqEzzP83g?si=e29f861113514b6d

nate woolls, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 18:44 (two months ago) link

It makes its point, since a few of those are absolutely blatant, but imo a couple of those are stretches as direct analogs, ironically because the LCD songs are ripping off several songs at once. For example, "Drunk Girls" reminds me of "Boys Keep Swinging" by Bowie as much as "White Light/White Heat." I don't think "Pow" sounds particularly like "Born Under Punches," and I don't think "Home" sounds like "This Must Be the Place," but both sure as heck sound like the Talking Heads. And so on. I'm surprised he's never been sued, regardless - other acts have for sure been sued for far less - which makes me think he maybe worked something out with various estates and/or friends?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 20:50 (two months ago) link

And of course North American Scum =
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HwmO_GZfzI

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 21:04 (two months ago) link

the reference points of "all my friends" are pretty obviously new order (specifically "temptation") + eno but that synthesis works very well, it isn't blatantly ripping any one thing

otm, with a Pink Floyd reference thrown in.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 21:06 (two months ago) link

I think that's why I always appreciated the band. It's a synthesis. Like, when I listen to, say, bands like the P. Furs, I hear a synthesis of Bowie, VU, Roxy Music and the Pistols. When I hear the JAMC, I hear the Ramones, Phil Spector, Beach Boys, Stooges, etc. I'm not suggesting LCD is on par with either of those acts, or as novel in its synthesizing, but like those others there's more than enough personality that I would never confuse it for its source material. (See also: Zeppelin.)

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 21:12 (two months ago) link

Also, they were a real gateway drug into dance and electronic music for me, in that there was so much live instrumentation and I could understand what was going on more (this was when I was starting to mess around with making music on a computer but really had no idea what I was doing or how things were made).

I feel like the interpolations are similar - they're never going to sample a record, they don't work like that, they're going to do it with their chosen toolbox. I like that even though it sometimes veers into ripoff territory. It's great when it works.

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 21:22 (two months ago) link

I made this playlist a few years ago based on a reddit (I think) post that matched up all the This Is Happening songs against the originals. It's pretty interesting hearing them side by side like this

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/58KqaKB2yPO1vJqEzzP83g?si=e29f861113514b6d

― nate woolls, Tuesday, January 30, 2024 12:44 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Thanks for this. "The Bus" is a banger.

Indexed, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 22:09 (two months ago) link

I don't think "Pow" sounds particularly like "Born Under Punches,"

― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, January 30, 2024 2:50 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

Is it just the little electric guitar riff every 8 beats?

Indexed, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 22:19 (two months ago) link

Nothing much to add except Someone Great is my favourite song of all time. Just rooted itself in me instantly with that hook and all that sadness. Can tell you exactly where I was and what I was doing the first time I heard it. Have so many associations with those first two albums (and yeah I do consider the self titled to be one). Ex of mine actually introduced me to them by putting Never as Tired As When I’m Waking Up on a mix CD for me which, in retrospect? Not that representative of their style!

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 22:25 (two months ago) link

s/t is totally an album; i thought the singles were collected as a "bonus disk" but the first disc was a "proper" album

intheblanks, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 22:29 (two months ago) link

"Someone Great" will always remind me of Bumble and I dedicate that song to him.

M4rk Cr4ig (aka Bimble) RIP

Bee OK, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 22:33 (two months ago) link

*Bimble

Spell check strikes again

Bee OK, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 22:33 (two months ago) link

I saw James Murphy creeping around The Four Horseman, the restaurant he owns in Brooklyn, when I met a buddy for brunch. He did look as if he'd lost his edge.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 22:36 (two months ago) link

I didn't mean to bookmark, so; M4rk Cr4ig (aka Bimble) RIP

Bee OK, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 22:36 (two months ago) link

Yeah Someone Great is an incredible tune, floored me the first time I heard it. Even if everything else sucked he’s classic for that alone. And it’s more or less an original isn’t it?

frogbs, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 22:49 (two months ago) link

He ripped off 45:33 for it

bae (sic), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 23:06 (two months ago) link

Lol

Bee OK, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 23:16 (two months ago) link

Poor Nike

brimstead, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 23:18 (two months ago) link


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