Quentin Tarantino's Manson murders movie

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Watched Hollywood again the other day for something I was doing--fourth time? I won't change or even bother checking anything I posted above, but I do find Tarantino's deep attachment to pre-Manson Hollywood oddly moving. I say oddly because I have no attachment to that specific moment (Matt Helm movies, TV westerns, etc.) whatsoever--to the time period, yes, but not to that corner of it. But the film does move me, even the wildly self-indulgent conceit of the ending--loved how Sebring and Tate are improbable Rick Dalton fans at the end.

clemenza, Friday, 26 January 2024 22:47 (three months ago) link

“Hey, are *you* Rick Dalton?”

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 26 January 2024 22:49 (three months ago) link

And DiCaprio plays the scene beautifully. I've been knocking him a lot recently for his Scorsese work, but I think he's really good in this.

clemenza, Friday, 26 January 2024 22:53 (three months ago) link

Fully agree, his acting is amazing throughout the film, and that final shot is one of the most haunting and beautiful things Tarantino has done.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 26 January 2024 23:05 (three months ago) link

I really do think the what-if scenario, which purports to be some kind of shallow wish fulfillment, is actually a way to really underscore the absolute abhorrence of the real life tragedy, and the magnitude of the loss.

omar little, Friday, 26 January 2024 23:14 (three months ago) link

I kind of felt the same way about the righteous fury at the end of inglourious basterds, though i think OUATIH is definitely the better film as far as really making it something above and beyond.

omar little, Friday, 26 January 2024 23:17 (three months ago) link

The only thing I'd still change is that Manson himself gets the flamethrower instead of whichever of the two women got it. I forget what the rationales for that were earlier in the thread, but I still don't get that at all.

clemenza, Friday, 26 January 2024 23:28 (three months ago) link

it’s definitely one of my favorite movies he’s ever done, maybe because he is coming from a more sentimental place & it resonates w me

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 26 January 2024 23:31 (three months ago) link

robbie is such a superstar in it. i dont think it works if shes not as incredible in it as she is.

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 January 2024 00:36 (three months ago) link

i dont think theres another character or performance of that type across his entire catalogue.

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 January 2024 00:37 (three months ago) link

yeah she’s so vibrant and joyful, definitely key to the movie & the emotional power of the ending

She does such a beautiful job of making Tate a real person, even if its only an approximation - her performance is a lovely tribute to her memory

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 27 January 2024 00:57 (three months ago) link


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