news says that trump stomped out of the courtroom during closing arguments.
― scott seward, Friday, 26 January 2024 15:11 (three months ago) link
he probably stomped into the courtroom, too.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 January 2024 15:21 (three months ago) link
Some folks are born silver spoon in handLord, don't they help themselvesBut when the taxman come to the doorThe house looks like a rummage sale
― Wine not? (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 26 January 2024 15:28 (three months ago) link
That is a truly beautiful self-own.
Now let's see how he inevitably manages to wriggle out of this one.
― Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Friday, 26 January 2024 15:38 (three months ago) link
Frustrating how in the Alex Jones and Giuliani trials, the minute these guys get got and whalloped with punitive damages, all of a sudden they go bankrupt and their millions disappear. Hope Carroll gets all Trump's cash and his gold toilet, but if he plays the suddenly-bankrupt game himself, maybe that'll bruise his image in the eyes of his scumbag followers somehow? I'm guessing not, but.Or maybe the shithead will keel over and die.
― B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 26 January 2024 15:38 (three months ago) link
And yet, I don't think Jones has paid anything yet, right?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 January 2024 16:15 (three months ago) link
Dunno, but, Trump already had to put $5M in escrow while he appeals the prior Carroll defamation case: https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/23/politics/trump-e-jean-carroll-5-5-million/index.html
Saw speculation that this could be in appeals for a very long time.
― default damager (lukas), Friday, 26 January 2024 16:24 (three months ago) link
was wondering about the appeal issue
― dead precedents (sleeve), Friday, 26 January 2024 16:37 (three months ago) link
Eternal return
Judge Kaplan: Move onto another topicHabba: Under the First Amendment you have a right to speak -Roberta Kaplan: Objection!Judge Kaplan: SustainedHabba: You've heard the objections, you've heard me being told to sit downRobert Kaplan: ObjectionJudge: Move on— Inner City Press (@innercitypress) January 26, 2024
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 26 January 2024 17:07 (three months ago) link
"Roberta and the Judge," Tuesdays this fall on NBC!
― badpee pooper (Eric H.), Friday, 26 January 2024 17:16 (three months ago) link
“President Trump has no more control over the thoughts and feelings of social media users than he does the weather,” Habba says.
― scott seward, Friday, 26 January 2024 17:18 (three months ago) link
xpost Throw in an orangutan and I'd totally wat... oh, wait.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 January 2024 17:20 (three months ago) link
I like this one, the timing is impeccable:
Judge Kaplan: She showed you only five tweets-Habba: Objection!Judge Kaplan: Only one lawyer. Who is it?Habba: Michael.Michael Madaio: Objection.Judge Kaplan: Overruled.— Inner City Press (@innercitypress) January 26, 2024
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 January 2024 17:23 (three months ago) link
Carroll lawyer Shawn Crowley: "One of the questions you have to decide is whether he acted with malice. What could be more on-brand for Donald Trump than malice?"— erica orden (@eorden) January 26, 2024
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 January 2024 17:27 (three months ago) link
https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2020-02/1/17/asset/ff90b1278a8b/sub-buzz-346-1580578270-8.png?downsize=700%3A%2A&output-quality=auto&output-format=auto
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 26 January 2024 17:44 (three months ago) link
I know of one way he could make around half of social media users feel very happy
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 26 January 2024 17:56 (three months ago) link
"Deliberations have begun in Carroll v. Trump, starting at 1:40 p.m. EST. "
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 January 2024 18:47 (three months ago) link
Over and over this week, Trump’s lawyers argued that E. Jean Carroll was not sexually assaulted or defamed by their client, when in fact Trump was found liable for both offenses in court already. Why no one on the defense team — including Trump himself — has not been found in direct criminal contempt of court is indicative of our judicial system and its different rules for the rich and powerful.
― TO BE A JAZZ SINGER YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SCAT (Jazzbo), Friday, 26 January 2024 19:21 (three months ago) link
Kaplan pretty much shut that down every time, strictly limited the questions his lawyers could ask Trump, etc. I've seen a couple of posts from lawyers who've worked these contexts basically saying Kaplan would be primarily interested in getting the trial done first (especially since Trump etc would love there to be an obvious mistrial happening -- it's what they kept trying with Engoron), then if he felt it warranted could happily sanction the hell out of his lawyers after.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 26 January 2024 19:23 (three months ago) link
I'm on the caseCan't be fooledAny objectionIs overruled
Yes, I'm the ArbiterAnd I know best
He's impartialDon't push himHe's unimpressed
― never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Friday, 26 January 2024 19:41 (three months ago) link
the clip from the deposition where he's shown the photo of Jean Carroll, a woman he said he couldn't have assaulted because she's "not his type", and then proceeds to misindentify her as his second wife, while also being unable to recognize his first wife in the photo, is still I think one of the most truly insane Trump moments ever. the man's brain does not work
― frogbs, Friday, 26 January 2024 21:17 (three months ago) link
Sounds like we have a verdict.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 26 January 2024 21:28 (three months ago) link
at what point does one run out of appeals and have to cough up?
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 26 January 2024 21:35 (three months ago) link
beginning the countdown to when Trump gets in front of a dozen news cameras and defames Carroll yet again because he knows no other way to react
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 26 January 2024 21:36 (three months ago) link
Andy (clerk): 7.1 million... 11 million... punitives: $65 million— Inner City Press (@innercitypress) January 26, 2024
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 26 January 2024 21:42 (three months ago) link
Verdict in Carroll v. TrumpJury says Donald Trump must pay E. Jean Carroll:COMPENSATORY:Other than reputation repair program: $7.3MReputation repair program: $11MPUNITIVE: $65MTOTAL: $83.3M— erica orden (@eorden) January 26, 2024
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 January 2024 21:43 (three months ago) link
pay up, Fucker
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 26 January 2024 21:43 (three months ago) link
It's OK, his company is sitting on $400 million in cash and is worth $10 billion.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 26 January 2024 21:43 (three months ago) link
She should offer to accept the deed to Trump Tower in lieu of cash, like that woman who won the Klan's headquarters in court some years ago.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Friday, 26 January 2024 21:44 (three months ago) link
I think Trump would rather have his dick cut off than give up Trump Tower.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 26 January 2024 21:44 (three months ago) link
Well, it's like LBJ's line about calling his opponent a pigfucker: "Let's make the son of a bitch deny it."
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Friday, 26 January 2024 21:45 (three months ago) link
is that more or less than what was expected? seems like an awful lot to me
― frogbs, Friday, 26 January 2024 21:46 (three months ago) link
Yeah, that's a shitload of money lol
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 26 January 2024 21:47 (three months ago) link
It's less than the Rudy decision, and less than the Alex Jones, fwiw, but it's still a lot!
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 January 2024 21:47 (three months ago) link
difference being that Trump is far more likely to actually have that kind of money
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 26 January 2024 21:49 (three months ago) link
Context/comparison:
The more than $83 million in combined damages far exceeds the amount Donald Trump was ordered to pay last year when a jury found for E. Jean Carroll. In that case, the jury found that he sexually assaulted her and defamed her, and they awarded her a combined $5 million.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 January 2024 21:51 (three months ago) link
think of how many NFTs he's gonna have to sell to recoup that
― frogbs, Friday, 26 January 2024 21:51 (three months ago) link
Whip-round from the adherents ought to cover it, or at least some of it. A little of it anyway.
― fourth world problems (Matt #2), Friday, 26 January 2024 21:51 (three months ago) link
File under understatement:
Judge Kaplan said to the anonymous jury that while they are now free to speak publicly, he didn’t advise it. “My advice to you is that you never disclose that you were on this jury and I wont say anything more about it.”
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 January 2024 21:52 (three months ago) link
The sad/tragic/funny thing is, it seems impossible that Trump will be able to avoid defaming her *again*. He probably barely makes it a day.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 January 2024 21:53 (three months ago) link
I dunno, Judge Kaplan, putting oneself in a position where Donald Trump might (and most likely will) defame you is starting to seem like a pretty sweet deal.
― Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Friday, 26 January 2024 21:54 (three months ago) link
Can a judge sue for defamation?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 January 2024 21:56 (three months ago) link
He rails against deep state RINOs, which is exactly what I am - I plan to sue as well
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 26 January 2024 21:59 (three months ago) link
in fairness (?????????) to the rudy verdict there were two plaintiffs
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 26 January 2024 21:59 (three months ago) link
Or more likely he hung himself on his own rope there. Someone asked Ken White/Popehat about the possibility of an appeal and reduction on the punitive damages and his understated snark response:
Low. That’s a reasonable multiplier of actual to punitive and consistent with his stated wealth.
The kicker is 'stated wealth' because Carroll's legal team played a clip of a formal deposition where he claimed he was worth $10 billion. So if he suddenly pleads poverty as a reduce to reduce, people get to go 'wow so about this perjury you committed' and then things get even more fun for him. (Trump's team very much saw this possibility coming and tried to work against it today, to no avail.)
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 26 January 2024 22:02 (three months ago) link
REASON to reduce, etc.
All I know is he should double the pay of this legal team and bring them in for every single trial. If not to actually defend him then at least to entertain us all. But they should probably defend him, too.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 January 2024 22:06 (three months ago) link
he's probably not going to pay his lawyer bills since they lost
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 26 January 2024 22:10 (three months ago) link
I hope they got yuge retainers up front.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 26 January 2024 22:11 (three months ago) link
Actually, I don't. Any lawyer who represents Trump gets whatever s/he deserves, which is nothing good.