Well, yeah, I get that the interests are aligned... but more to OL's point, it's hard to imagine them allowing it to be made so blindingly obvious in the public eye that they are taking orders from him. Just seems like it'd be embarrassing on some level to a politicians' ego, even if they were getting what they wanted, to have to do a whole dog and pony show along with it about how they sure are making the unelected orange dipshit happy.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 25 January 2024 22:27 (three months ago) link
I am sure that most of them wish he would just die and let them get back to manipulating his mouth-breathing followers.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 25 January 2024 22:31 (three months ago) link
prepare for unimaginable levels of pettiness when he wins...
― StanM, Thursday, 25 January 2024 22:37 (three months ago) link
I'm curious who would make the candidate pool for VP but wouldn't be obviously rooting or even plotting for him to keel over.
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 25 January 2024 22:38 (three months ago) link
Never forget
https://www.dailydot.com/wp-content/uploads/aef/87/6220c8c9ccd6aa6da1989b406dc13ff7.jpg
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 25 January 2024 22:40 (three months ago) link
Or loses... Floridian Dems are bracing for a grouchy loser DeSantis back in the capitol
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 25 January 2024 22:41 (three months ago) link
Someone needs to make a "Hitler in the conference room" clip for DeSantis.
― nickn, Thursday, 25 January 2024 23:02 (three months ago) link
Just load his office with pudding cups, there's only so much damage he can do with his fingers perpetually shoved up his mouth.
― birdistheword, Thursday, 25 January 2024 23:11 (three months ago) link
I know we've already beaten this to death, but this is a solid take by Dahlia Lithwick on today's events in the defamation trial.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/01/trump-three-minutes-stand-point-explained.html
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 26 January 2024 01:11 (three months ago) link
So would throwing Trump out of the trial early have been better? If not, we're just in "Trump put on a performance for his base" territory, right? The real question is whether he pays out to Carroll.
― default damager (lukas), Friday, 26 January 2024 01:25 (three months ago) link
I think he's going to pay out bigly
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 26 January 2024 01:32 (three months ago) link
what's the largest amount the jury could award, does anyone know?
― dead precedents (sleeve), Friday, 26 January 2024 01:33 (three months ago) link
750 hamberders
― StanM, Friday, 26 January 2024 01:47 (three months ago) link
Frustrating how in the Alex Jones and Giuliani trials, the minute these guys get got and whalloped with punitive damages, all of a sudden they go bankrupt and their millions disappear. Hope Carroll gets all Trump's cash and his gold toilet, but if he plays the suddenly-bankrupt game himself, maybe that'll bruise his image in the eyes of his scumbag followers somehow? I'm guessing not, but.
Or maybe the shithead will keel over and die.
― impostor syndrome to the (expletive) max (stevie), Friday, 26 January 2024 09:07 (three months ago) link
there should be a 1 billion dollar bill with his face on it, especially since he'll never own it in person
― StanM, Friday, 26 January 2024 09:34 (three months ago) link
Let's not forget he's likely on point to pay even that much more in the civil fraud suit.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 26 January 2024 13:54 (three months ago) link
This is pretty funny — they're using his ridiculously inflated self-declared net worth to argue for high punitive damages.
The more important testimony from Trump that the jury saw Thursday was from his April 2023 deposition in the New York Attorney General’s fraud case. At one point, Trump, while discussing the value of his properties, estimated that his brand alone is worth “maybe $10 billion.” When Trump bragged about his billions in assets, he probably wasn’t anticipating that it would be used against him in the defamation case to argue for an enormous punitive damages award. But Carroll’s lawyers can put it to that use, and because deposition testimony is given under oath, there’s nothing Trump can do now to undercut it without exposing himself to the risk of perjury. Sometimes, the chickens really do come home to roost.
https://joycevance.substack.com/p/trump-testifies
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 26 January 2024 15:06 (three months ago) link
lololol excellent
― dead precedents (sleeve), Friday, 26 January 2024 15:07 (three months ago) link
news says that trump stomped out of the courtroom during closing arguments.
― scott seward, Friday, 26 January 2024 15:11 (three months ago) link
he probably stomped into the courtroom, too.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 January 2024 15:21 (three months ago) link
Some folks are born silver spoon in handLord, don't they help themselvesBut when the taxman come to the doorThe house looks like a rummage sale
― Wine not? (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 26 January 2024 15:28 (three months ago) link
That is a truly beautiful self-own.
Now let's see how he inevitably manages to wriggle out of this one.
― Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Friday, 26 January 2024 15:38 (three months ago) link
Frustrating how in the Alex Jones and Giuliani trials, the minute these guys get got and whalloped with punitive damages, all of a sudden they go bankrupt and their millions disappear. Hope Carroll gets all Trump's cash and his gold toilet, but if he plays the suddenly-bankrupt game himself, maybe that'll bruise his image in the eyes of his scumbag followers somehow? I'm guessing not, but.Or maybe the shithead will keel over and die.
― B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 26 January 2024 15:38 (three months ago) link
And yet, I don't think Jones has paid anything yet, right?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 January 2024 16:15 (three months ago) link
Dunno, but, Trump already had to put $5M in escrow while he appeals the prior Carroll defamation case: https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/23/politics/trump-e-jean-carroll-5-5-million/index.html
Saw speculation that this could be in appeals for a very long time.
― default damager (lukas), Friday, 26 January 2024 16:24 (three months ago) link
was wondering about the appeal issue
― dead precedents (sleeve), Friday, 26 January 2024 16:37 (three months ago) link
Eternal return
Judge Kaplan: Move onto another topicHabba: Under the First Amendment you have a right to speak -Roberta Kaplan: Objection!Judge Kaplan: SustainedHabba: You've heard the objections, you've heard me being told to sit downRobert Kaplan: ObjectionJudge: Move on— Inner City Press (@innercitypress) January 26, 2024
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 26 January 2024 17:07 (three months ago) link
"Roberta and the Judge," Tuesdays this fall on NBC!
― badpee pooper (Eric H.), Friday, 26 January 2024 17:16 (three months ago) link
“President Trump has no more control over the thoughts and feelings of social media users than he does the weather,” Habba says.
― scott seward, Friday, 26 January 2024 17:18 (three months ago) link
xpost Throw in an orangutan and I'd totally wat... oh, wait.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 January 2024 17:20 (three months ago) link
I like this one, the timing is impeccable:
Judge Kaplan: She showed you only five tweets-Habba: Objection!Judge Kaplan: Only one lawyer. Who is it?Habba: Michael.Michael Madaio: Objection.Judge Kaplan: Overruled.— Inner City Press (@innercitypress) January 26, 2024
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 January 2024 17:23 (three months ago) link
Carroll lawyer Shawn Crowley: "One of the questions you have to decide is whether he acted with malice. What could be more on-brand for Donald Trump than malice?"— erica orden (@eorden) January 26, 2024
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 January 2024 17:27 (three months ago) link
https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2020-02/1/17/asset/ff90b1278a8b/sub-buzz-346-1580578270-8.png?downsize=700%3A%2A&output-quality=auto&output-format=auto
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 26 January 2024 17:44 (three months ago) link
I know of one way he could make around half of social media users feel very happy
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 26 January 2024 17:56 (three months ago) link
"Deliberations have begun in Carroll v. Trump, starting at 1:40 p.m. EST. "
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 January 2024 18:47 (three months ago) link
Over and over this week, Trump’s lawyers argued that E. Jean Carroll was not sexually assaulted or defamed by their client, when in fact Trump was found liable for both offenses in court already. Why no one on the defense team — including Trump himself — has not been found in direct criminal contempt of court is indicative of our judicial system and its different rules for the rich and powerful.
― TO BE A JAZZ SINGER YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SCAT (Jazzbo), Friday, 26 January 2024 19:21 (three months ago) link
Kaplan pretty much shut that down every time, strictly limited the questions his lawyers could ask Trump, etc. I've seen a couple of posts from lawyers who've worked these contexts basically saying Kaplan would be primarily interested in getting the trial done first (especially since Trump etc would love there to be an obvious mistrial happening -- it's what they kept trying with Engoron), then if he felt it warranted could happily sanction the hell out of his lawyers after.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 26 January 2024 19:23 (three months ago) link
I'm on the caseCan't be fooledAny objectionIs overruled
Yes, I'm the ArbiterAnd I know best
He's impartialDon't push himHe's unimpressed
― never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Friday, 26 January 2024 19:41 (three months ago) link
the clip from the deposition where he's shown the photo of Jean Carroll, a woman he said he couldn't have assaulted because she's "not his type", and then proceeds to misindentify her as his second wife, while also being unable to recognize his first wife in the photo, is still I think one of the most truly insane Trump moments ever. the man's brain does not work
― frogbs, Friday, 26 January 2024 21:17 (three months ago) link
Sounds like we have a verdict.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 26 January 2024 21:28 (three months ago) link
at what point does one run out of appeals and have to cough up?
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 26 January 2024 21:35 (three months ago) link
beginning the countdown to when Trump gets in front of a dozen news cameras and defames Carroll yet again because he knows no other way to react
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 26 January 2024 21:36 (three months ago) link
Andy (clerk): 7.1 million... 11 million... punitives: $65 million— Inner City Press (@innercitypress) January 26, 2024
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 26 January 2024 21:42 (three months ago) link
Verdict in Carroll v. TrumpJury says Donald Trump must pay E. Jean Carroll:COMPENSATORY:Other than reputation repair program: $7.3MReputation repair program: $11MPUNITIVE: $65MTOTAL: $83.3M— erica orden (@eorden) January 26, 2024
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 January 2024 21:43 (three months ago) link
pay up, Fucker
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 26 January 2024 21:43 (three months ago) link
It's OK, his company is sitting on $400 million in cash and is worth $10 billion.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 26 January 2024 21:43 (three months ago) link
She should offer to accept the deed to Trump Tower in lieu of cash, like that woman who won the Klan's headquarters in court some years ago.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Friday, 26 January 2024 21:44 (three months ago) link
I think Trump would rather have his dick cut off than give up Trump Tower.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 26 January 2024 21:44 (three months ago) link
Well, it's like LBJ's line about calling his opponent a pigfucker: "Let's make the son of a bitch deny it."
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Friday, 26 January 2024 21:45 (three months ago) link
is that more or less than what was expected? seems like an awful lot to me
― frogbs, Friday, 26 January 2024 21:46 (three months ago) link