Best CHEERS character

I don't recall that from the Cheers theme?

Have i misunderstood something here

The Lyrics To The Full "Cheers" Theme Are Completely Insane

I don't recall that from the Cheers theme?

I don’t think it ever ran in the show otherwise

Yeah it made #58 on the UK chart in '84. I only heard the song in full a few years ago.

Yuck, hadn’t ever heard of that verse til now

Yuck, hadn’t ever heard of that verse til now

omg

it's pretty wild looking back and realizing that trans jokes were about as acceptable back in the day as, i don't know, hitler jokes. like it's so ubiquitous that a lot of it i forgot about and had to be reminded of. i did know about cheers because... i think when i was a kid and was learning the piano i had a book of sheet music to tv themes and it had the complete lyrics in there. then i forgot about it until i was talking with this zoomer i know who's obsessed with '70s and '80s sitcoms and idolizes vicki lawrence in "mama's family" and she mentioned it and i was just like oh shit, i forgot about that bit.

the thing is that kind of thing was just so _routine_ and _unexceptional_. it's really bizarre looking back on it, because this shit was just, like, normal when i was growing up. i definitely feel that "between two worlds" thing sometimes. maybe it's that way for a lot of trans people of whatever generation... i don't know!

Yeah, it seems nearly impossible to dip into just about any '80s entertainment and not risk getting blindsided by a (as it turns out not so) random joke at trans people's expense. There's even a nasty little moment at the end of a S7 Golden Girls episode that feels like a total sop to the shittiness of that era.

Yeah, it seems nearly impossible to dip into just about any '80s entertainment and not risk getting blindsided by a (as it turns out not so) random joke at trans people's expense. There's even a nasty little moment at the end of a S7 Golden Girls episode that feels like a total sop to the shittiness of that era.

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like i was watching... one of the weird things i do is watch tapes of old HBO between-movie interstitials from back in the day from, like, maybe 1984, and there's a promo for the news parody show they had, if you remember, it was called "not necessarily the news", and they had a joke to the effect that boy george was starting a finishing school for BOYS who wanted to be GIRLS! comedy gold i'm sure

i mean boy george isn't even a woman, just a guy who presents more on the femme side of things. god forbid anybody would be able to tell the difference between gender identity and presentation in those days, tho, lol just like. everything was so fucked up and i had no idea.

you have your work cut out for you

"Excuse me... where is your bathroom?"
"Right next ti my bedroom...!?!"

Apologies for the typo (my phone is a potato)

I was in desperate need of comfort viewing after watching a particularly effective horror movie the other night and I decided to start watching Cheers from the start.
A show I haven't really thought about since I was a kid watching with my parents on Friday nights
So glad to delve back in. It's sumptuous to watch this as an adult. To appreciate the scripting, the acting, just how tight and charming it is. A few beats are dated, sure, but I'll forgive it for now

Right now Cliff is only a walk on guy. Diane is fantastic any minute she's on camera. Right now I'd vote for her, Coach or Carla

There's just something about how the characters react quietly to things happening around them that works. You're in their minds as soon as the joke lands. I don't know how to describe it better

And the end of that early episode w/ his daughter is genuinely an amazing bit of acting - never fail to tear up when his daughter (Ms Dipesto off Moonlighting!!) says she's ugly, Coach says she looks like her mum, she falters as she tries to say "And mum was not beautiful", and Coach says "Your mother grew more beautiful every day I knew her"... ack, am choking up a bit as I type. And the words themselves aren't even a very strong denouement, but the way Colasanto delivers them is truly remarkable.

Got to this bit the other day during my rewatch of S1. Devastating.

yeah great scene

Saw the first Lilith (instantly great) episode recently having not been aware it's a while before she reappears.

Been watching through Cheers recently. It's such a perfect show. The only character I don't really like is Diane so looking forward to her leaving

Ah, but Shelly's performance is so strong those first few seasons - I really felt on my last rewatch that she is the centre of the show at first.

Love Diane.

It's a great performance I just don't enjoy the character unfortunately

I only remember the later seasons from the first run/syndication, jarring to see the first couple of seasons with a completely different Cliff and things 30% less wacky in general.

Oh I really like Diane. I love it when Shelley Long and Ted Danson almost break character just a tiny bit after a laugh to show they're kind-of in on the joke. Yeah Diane is quality

does Cliff change a lot in later seasons? it really is strange coming back to these as an adult, when last time i watched it i must have been about 12 or 13

I don’t think Cliff changes too much - a little more depth to his shallowness perhaps but you’d expect that over eleven seasons

Slightly mindblowing watching today to realise that Cliff and Norm are in their mid-30s when Cheers starts.

Early thirties I think! It is one of those WTF feelings knowing that the entire main cast (not including Coach) were around that age

Yeah Coach was a bit older - early 40s I think

Older surely?

Played an old mob boss in Raging Bull--two years before Cheers goes on the air.

Nick Colasanto was 59 when the show began

Sorry, failed joke attempt

Ha! Sorry!