in retrospect, how did Rob Liefeld ever manage to hold down a artist job in the comics industry?

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Dude's a tool, I mean, everything in the tone of that blog post certifies him as such. I don't think artists should have to "apologize" for messing up characters (except perhaps to their creators?), either, whole thing's pretty retarded. Plus, you know, TAKING A STAND against Rob Liefeld in 2009.

I don't agree with your argument tho Tuomas, of course the guy should have kept working at his craft! He should have recognized the adulation of the public for the shallow thing it is and followed his muse to ever more challenging territories, allowing the talent we saw on X-Force and Youngblood to bloom to its full potential ;)

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 14:13 (fourteen years ago) link

The thing is, though... that it did bloom to its full potential.

it's like i have a couple worked up vadges under my arms (HI DERE), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 14:17 (fourteen years ago) link

btw:

http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/wp-content/uploads//2009/07/IMG_6988.jpg

^^^^ awesome

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 14:32 (fourteen years ago) link

hahahahaha

For an incredibly hatable guy he is extremely likable!

it's like i have a couple worked up vadges under my arms (HI DERE), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 14:34 (fourteen years ago) link

he has the pleasant joyful demeanor of new money! not like those sour new england types.

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 17:57 (fourteen years ago) link

(am looking for a picture of gary brodsky frowning for contrast)

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 17:57 (fourteen years ago) link

of course the guy should have kept working at his craft!

any minute now, he's going to break out those life drawings that he told Hart Fisher would blow Fisher's mind. that was only, what, eleven years ago?

more funny and original than, 'ow you say, a penis (sic), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 03:30 (fourteen years ago) link

If Rob Liefeld revealed himself to actually be a highly-competent draftsman who had been churning out wretched garbage for years simply for a larf, I think I would love Rob Liefeld to the max.

Smash! Crash! Bash! Mash! Come and get it, human trash! (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 03:37 (fourteen years ago) link

any minute now, he's going to break out those life drawings that he told Hart Fisher would blow Fisher's mind. that was only, what, eleven years ago?

It'll be so weird when he finally realeases those and it turns out they're all oil paintings of the Keyboard Cat.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 12:26 (fourteen years ago) link

"If Rob Liefeld revealed himself to actually be a highly-competent draftsman"

this would be a great prank by the robster for sure, but also justifies all sorts of abuse, including throwing marvel instructional books at him. anything mean-spirited about liefeld-bashing evaporates if it turns out he wasn't earnestly trying to the best of his ability.

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 17:05 (fourteen years ago) link

six months pass...

man you give a guy one issue of KING magazine and the next thing you know the white queen has a MASSIVE ASS

forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 06:11 (fourteen years ago) link

that's a swipe from the two gargantuassed chicks on the beach that made the rounds some years ago and I claim my five dollars

forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 06:12 (fourteen years ago) link

has to be on confounded's culture corner thread

forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 06:12 (fourteen years ago) link

Not Liefeld, but

Can we have an actual name then?

you live in a space battle homo cave (sic), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 09:38 (fourteen years ago) link

The link says it's Kaare Andrews. I think he's the guy who wrote and drew that weird Spider-Man dystopia story, where Mary Jane was killed by Spider-Man's radioactive sperm. I thought he did a nice enough Milleresque job there, but the pic above is a bit silly. I wouldn't mind him drawing superheroines with some proper ass, as not so many artists tend to do that, but the butt-to-waist ration on Storm and Emma is ridiculous. Also, the ankles on the girl on the left look seriously anorexic. He's not Liefeld-level crappy though, for example I think he's pretty good at drawing faces.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 09:51 (fourteen years ago) link

He's most likely still better than Simone Bianchi, who did a terrible, terrible job on Astonishing X-Men. I'd take big butts over Bianchi's stiff and lifeless painted figures any day. And at least Andrews can draw some proper action scenes, with Bianchi's crappy art they were almost impossible to follow.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 09:57 (fourteen years ago) link

on the evidence of Morrison's Shining Knight, Bianchi can actually draw humans, unlike that pic above, but yes, is a completely incompetent cartoonist.

you live in a space battle homo cave (sic), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 12:54 (fourteen years ago) link

four months pass...

Knight and Day is freakin' great! @TomCruise is at his finest! Tons of great action, thrills and laughs. Real crowd pleaser!

31 minutes ago via web
robertliefeld

dyaon't (sic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 05:20 (thirteen years ago) link

"The link says it's Kaare Andrews. I think he's the guy who wrote and drew that weird Spider-Man dystopia story, where Mary Jane was killed by Spider-Man's radioactive sperm."

what

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 24 June 2010 18:15 (thirteen years ago) link

yes, it happened

Nhex, Thursday, 24 June 2010 18:45 (thirteen years ago) link

okay now I am mad, why am I agreeing with Rob Liefeld about anything, let alone a wafer-thin movie

Opinions are a lot like assholes. You've got LOTS of BOTH of them. (HI DERE), Monday, 28 June 2010 16:07 (thirteen years ago) link

speaking of Movies: http://splashpage.mtv.com/2010/05/12/brett-ratner-youngblood-movie-x-men/

Slumpman, Monday, 28 June 2010 20:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Also, is this a Liefeld record number of pouches?:

http://imgur.com/JAHhG.jpg

I count 18 visible.

Slumpman, Monday, 28 June 2010 20:57 (thirteen years ago) link

who is the dude standing on the right

please please please tell me it is NOT Barack Obama

Opinions are a lot like assholes. You've got LOTS of BOTH of them. (HI DERE), Monday, 28 June 2010 20:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Okay, it's not.

But this sure is :D

http://imgur.com/NH8H1.jpg

Slumpman, Monday, 28 June 2010 21:08 (thirteen years ago) link

my favourite things about this page:

1) Obama's fucked up nutsack of a hand and kipper feet in panel 1

2) the botched attempt at tracing the first GIS match for "barack smiling" ( really) in panel 2

3) playing aeroplanes in panel 3. or, i guess... miming heavy suitcases?

4) the fact that the presidents bodyguards are literally 2 Crude Dudes . I guess neither of them were "a bad enough dude to rescue the president"

Slumpman, Monday, 28 June 2010 21:25 (thirteen years ago) link

I mean if you're going to get into tracing photos, why not trace a photo of some non-deformed hands and feet, or a picture of some people walking in a normal, human manner? I know i shouldn't be trying to apply reasons to the artistic decisions of Rob Liefeld but I can't help myself he is just so bad

Slumpman, Monday, 28 June 2010 22:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Obama's left nutsackhand in the first panel is a biiiiig improvement on his left hand in the cover (?) picture

how much can a koala ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (sic), Monday, 28 June 2010 23:44 (thirteen years ago) link

I think Obama's facial expression in the last panel is supposed to be "holy shit, 2 snipers" since those bullets are very obviously coming from different directions

Opinions are a lot like assholes. You've got LOTS of BOTH of them. (HI DERE), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 00:02 (thirteen years ago) link

why is obama's head so tiny?

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 00:10 (thirteen years ago) link

hahahahaha

in the Liefeldverse that is akin to asking "why is the sky blue?" or "why are their feet so tiny?" or "what happened to that dude's hand?" or "is that character supposed to be obsessed with pouches?"

Opinions are a lot like assholes. You've got LOTS of BOTH of them. (HI DERE), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 00:12 (thirteen years ago) link

(xpost) because the guy can't draw for shit?

There was a thread here on image comics I sort of remember? I can't find it, maybe I imagined it....

dead flower :( (Pashmina), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 00:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Gotta say, if I was hiring artists today (something which I'm occasionally in a position to do), I'd have been polite, but unhesitant in passing that sample right by.

Matt M., Thursday, 1 July 2010 14:59 (thirteen years ago) link

how is that different to any other page Liefeld has every drawn in his life?

how much can a koala ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (sic), Thursday, 1 July 2010 15:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Distinct lack of pouches. And there's feet in *two* panels!

Matt M., Thursday, 1 July 2010 15:13 (thirteen years ago) link

With that panel sequence, Liefeld has displaced Fletcher Hanks as champion of something.

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 1 July 2010 17:07 (thirteen years ago) link

...so you'd have hired him if only he'd included more pouches and fewer feet?

how much can a koala ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (sic), Thursday, 1 July 2010 21:42 (thirteen years ago) link

No, the work would have to be a lot better. And display a fundamental knowledge of lighting (the colorist shouldn't have to do everything, mang.)

Matt M., Thursday, 1 July 2010 21:59 (thirteen years ago) link

again, that's not distinguishing this from the rest of his ouevre!

how much can a koala ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (sic), Thursday, 1 July 2010 23:49 (thirteen years ago) link

god I have to say that it has been literally a decade since I even thought the words "rob liefield". what a terrible, terrible artist

fresno's wet (gbx), Thursday, 1 July 2010 23:59 (thirteen years ago) link

His characters have three facial expressions: tight-lipped, shit-eating grin or yawning.

rhythm fixated member (chap), Friday, 2 July 2010 02:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Yawning generally representing angry or just been shot in the head.

rhythm fixated member (chap), Friday, 2 July 2010 02:11 (thirteen years ago) link

tbf, Liefeld himself seems to only have those three expressions.

how much can a koala ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (sic), Friday, 2 July 2010 02:33 (thirteen years ago) link

the original douchey mccool

obvious and old and bannable (forksclovetofu), Friday, 2 July 2010 05:30 (thirteen years ago) link

I only saw a picture of Liefeld years after I first read his comics - it was pretty funny to look at him and suddenly realize why he draws all his characters with a particular type of face.

Tuomas, Friday, 2 July 2010 06:11 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.the-isb.com/images/CourageRob02.jpg

oh shit a ◕‿‿◕ (sic), Friday, 2 July 2010 06:24 (thirteen years ago) link

it was pretty funny to look at him and suddenly realize why he draws all his characters with a particular type of face.

i think that's quite common tbh - for artists to draw people who skew towards their own features...

Make a bomb in the kitchen of your mom (stevie), Friday, 2 July 2010 06:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Even some of the current popular artists, you pretty much can't tell about one character from another. David Finch I guess is pretty popular, but pretty much almost every character on this cover looks like the same person in the face.

http://reilly2040.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/brightest_day0.jpg

earlnash, Friday, 2 July 2010 23:03 (thirteen years ago) link


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