Donald Trump: Classic or Dud?

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at the tail end of a 100-minute speech

Wack Snyder (Eric H.), Monday, 15 January 2024 15:21 (three months ago) link

My senior citizen mom was thinking about going to caucus with whoever has the biggest non-trump group in her district but the weather plus having to register as a Republican will probably keep her at home.

BrianB, Monday, 15 January 2024 15:28 (three months ago) link

Here's to Trump pulling a William Henry Harrison at a outdoor rally this week.

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 15 January 2024 15:30 (three months ago) link

On my gravestone I want it to read: He gave his life to stop a RINO from getting a good news cycle and 5% poll bump

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 15 January 2024 23:30 (three months ago) link

Anything to distract, still:

Trump has been muttering loudly & slamming his hand at counsel’s table.

Judge Kaplan now, before the jury was brought back in says: “before we bring in the jury I’m just going to ask Mr. Trump to take special care to keep his voice down so the jury does not overhear it.”

— Katie Phang (@KatiePhang) January 17, 2024

Kaplan threatened to kick Trump out of court after Carroll counsel complained again about Trump's commentary. Kaplan: "Mr. Trump has the right to be present here. That right can be forfeited." He continued: "Mr. Trump, I hope I don’t have to consider excluding you from the trial"

Wack Snyder (Eric H.), Wednesday, 17 January 2024 18:40 (three months ago) link

Reporters in the courtroom heard Trump say, “I would love it.”

“I know you would,” Kaplan said. “You just can’t control yourself in this circumstance apparently.”

and then everything resumes as-is because he gets all the warnings in the world because nobody wants to give him the press of being thrown out of the courtroom

Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 17 January 2024 18:42 (three months ago) link

I hope E Jean Carroll gets in a 'See you next time!' on her way out of the courthouse

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 17 January 2024 18:44 (three months ago) link

Why does Trump care about this trial so much? Why not be out giving speeches somewhere? He just needs the fuel for the persecution narrative that badly?

what you say is true but by no means (lukas), Wednesday, 17 January 2024 19:00 (three months ago) link

yes, obv, you said it yourself, it's fuel

that's when I reach for my copy of Revolver (WmC), Wednesday, 17 January 2024 19:17 (three months ago) link

Trump's campaign is threatening Nikki Haley that if she doesn't drop out they're going to after her on her alleged infidelities. It's all part of the pattern.

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 17 January 2024 19:20 (three months ago) link

Pot, meet kettle

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 17 January 2024 19:22 (three months ago) link

Unless it’s with corpses who would ever give a shit.

B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 17 January 2024 19:24 (three months ago) link

Just the amount of money and human effort to move this clown around to do all this crap is crazy in itself.

The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Wednesday, 17 January 2024 19:31 (three months ago) link

so he only sexually assaults women that he considers 'his type', good to know

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 17 January 2024 19:33 (three months ago) link

Mushrooms can be choosy.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Wednesday, 17 January 2024 20:05 (three months ago) link

otm

I mean, this is the argument well-regarded people have been making in newspapers and magazines with better prose. 'If you hold major political figures accountable, a lot of people and politicians might get mad and retaliate in potentially destabilizing ways.' That's basically it. https://t.co/gRbCwMW29p

— Osita Nwanevu (@OsitaNwanevu) January 18, 2024

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 18 January 2024 16:53 (three months ago) link

YEARS OF TRAUMA TRYING TO DETERMINE GOOD FROM BAD for February thread title.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Thursday, 18 January 2024 17:06 (three months ago) link

thread title? heck, make it the new board description.

peace, man, Thursday, 18 January 2024 17:15 (three months ago) link

Trump's just getting some payola to promote this:

https://lrdisk.bandcamp.com/album/ten-years-of-trauma

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 18 January 2024 17:16 (three months ago) link

It never really registered until now that he chose that avatar ... the flag overlay I get, but does he actually think looking mean is tantamount to looking good?

badpee pooper (Eric H.), Thursday, 18 January 2024 17:23 (three months ago) link

weak man feigning strength

impostor syndrome to the (expletive) max (stevie), Thursday, 18 January 2024 17:28 (three months ago) link

Yes.

https://t.co/MlIKklPSJT pic.twitter.com/Mcbf2xozsY

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 25, 2023

jaymc, Thursday, 18 January 2024 17:28 (three months ago) link

Corey Hart better sue

Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Thursday, 18 January 2024 18:03 (three months ago) link

Given all we've learned about the political leanings of '80s B and C level celebrities, I think I'd rather not know how Corey Hart would react to that.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 18 January 2024 18:12 (three months ago) link

With ANY MISTAKE, EVEN IF WELL INTENDED is Trump maybe sorta letting it slip that he may have fucked up but it’s okay because he meant well?

Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 18 January 2024 18:12 (three months ago) link

xp too late, the 8-episode Netflix doc series is already halfway thru production

badpee pooper (Eric H.), Thursday, 18 January 2024 18:15 (three months ago) link

Like Nixon, but without the charm.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 18 January 2024 18:24 (three months ago) link

campaign slogan

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 January 2024 18:36 (three months ago) link

i've seen the never surrender t-shirts. the ones with the picture of a guy who was LITERALLY surrendering when his picture was being taken. i hate that guy.

scott seward, Thursday, 18 January 2024 19:02 (three months ago) link

It never really registered until now that he chose that avatar ... the flag overlay I get, but does he actually think looking mean is tantamount to looking good?


His fans eat that shit up

B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 18 January 2024 19:07 (three months ago) link

He’s mad and strong and handsome and rich

B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 18 January 2024 19:07 (three months ago) link

He's the stern father they never had. Or is that the stern father they all had?

nickn, Thursday, 18 January 2024 19:12 (three months ago) link

personally believe that it is widely not understood how much the cycle of abuse contributes to the popularity of donald j trump

ꙮ (map), Thursday, 18 January 2024 19:17 (three months ago) link

otm

Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Thursday, 18 January 2024 19:32 (three months ago) link

its true, everyone I know who's really into Trump is a miserable fuck

frogbs, Thursday, 18 January 2024 19:33 (three months ago) link

there's something I think of as the "Jesus is coming back" problem.

the people at my Fundie church were insane, and that shouldn't be ignored, but even then, when they said that phrase, it meant "all of our pain and suffering will be over, evil will be vanquished, we'll be at peace for eternity with our Creator" - it was something they looked forward to. or at worst, they'd be saying it to scare someone into getting baptized ASAP.

when the "religious right" says it, it means "Jesus is going to come back and destroy all of my enemies", like he's a junkyard dog on a leash. religion is a revenge fantasy, a way to eliminate the weak by virtue of being on the winning team.

so naturally, a President who essentially promises to do exactly that will do until Machine Gun Jesus comes back.

Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Thursday, 18 January 2024 19:44 (three months ago) link

basically I blame Dirty Harry for everything

Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Thursday, 18 January 2024 19:45 (three months ago) link

Part of the fundie mindset does depend on everything being worse so that Jesus will rescue his flock. At least subconsciously, they're doing what they can to sort of speed up the schedule by actively making everything worse.

badpee pooper (Eric H.), Thursday, 18 January 2024 19:47 (three months ago) link

They don't wanna be rescued before Jesus takes an AR-15 and blows away their enemies.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 January 2024 19:48 (three months ago) link

in 53 years nobody will be allowed outdoors, and all communication will be done via social media, and it will be 98% bots so nobody will know if anybody but them is alive. or if they are really alive and not just an unaware bot themselves.

Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Thursday, 18 January 2024 19:50 (three months ago) link

The Matrix still has so much to answer for

badpee pooper (Eric H.), Thursday, 18 January 2024 19:59 (three months ago) link

hearty late-afternoon lol at "junkyard dog on a leash"

dell (del), Thursday, 18 January 2024 21:03 (three months ago) link

He's the stern father they never had. Or is that the stern father they all had?

― nickn, Thursday, January 18, 2024 1:12 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

personally believe that it is widely not understood how much the cycle of abuse contributes to the popularity of donald j trump

― ꙮ (map), Thursday, January 18, 2024 1:17 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

^This. More specifically: how people relate to those cycles of abuse. I've never understood folks (like say Trump's spawn) who keep celebrating big mean glowering daddy in hope of rewards that they will never, ever get. Me, I'm fucked up in all my own special ways but mostly I'm just hyperallergic to bullies now.

Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Thursday, 18 January 2024 21:07 (three months ago) link

I feel like we haven't had enough big thinkpieces on the complete takeover of the right wing by the culture of bullying. Not that it was ever absent, but Trump obviously brought it center stage, made it text instead of the subtext. Just relentlessly picking the softest targets — trans teens, undocumented immigrants, school librarians — and turning a firehose of vitriol and legal harassment on them.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 18 January 2024 21:15 (three months ago) link

donald trump inherited $400,000,000 from his parents. anyone voting GOP admires that inherent quality over any character or ethical virtue. they want to be rich. they profess reverence for a religion that damns the rich to hell. what can you do

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 18 January 2024 21:17 (three months ago) link

Give them hell, for starters

badpee pooper (Eric H.), Thursday, 18 January 2024 21:19 (three months ago) link

I have a campaign ad idea... just clips of Trump saying terrible things, followed by a grimacing Joe Biden: "I'm Joe Biden... and I don't approve of this message."

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 18 January 2024 21:21 (three months ago) link

xps - fwiw, Trump's spawn hope for the specific and obvious reward of a huge inheritance. The threat of disinheritance is a well-known way that wealthy families exert abusive control over their offspring. Donald, Sr. wields it like a hammer on his kids.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 18 January 2024 21:32 (three months ago) link

Yep:

The habitual ways of doing journalism no longer make sense. That the American way of politics has passed a watershed. That change is what Sharlet’s work struggles to characterize, as a desperate imperative—the way “these folks are changing the aesthetic of American politics.”

He gave as an example an infamous interview Lesley Stahl did on 60 Minutes with Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene. It had been characterized largely by Stahl’s frustration in attempting to fact-check her in real time, and many viewers’ frustration that she wasn’t doing it right, or enough, or adequately; the way Stahl arched her eyebrows in the face of the most fantastical, hateful lies, for example.

Quite brilliantly, Sharlet explained how this made his point about the inadequacy of political journalism’s inherited storytelling frames.

“[Greene], I would say, is the congressman from the fascist party. And I actually would like to speak a little bit more about that term, because I think it’s important.” He noted Stahl’s consternation as a function of the brokenness of the very cosmos in which her career—a great one, he stressed—was built. According to the old rules, a respected gatekeeper from a marquee journalistic institution grills a “rising star,” as a sort of ritual vetting to which the politician cannot but defer. “But Marjorie Taylor Greene isn’t a ‘rising star.’ Those old frames don’t work anymore,” Sharlet explained. “Marjorie Taylor Greene is not trying to join the cosmos that Lesley Stahl and much of American journalism is set up to cover.” She inhabited an entirely separate one: a fascist one, which the likes of Stahl have no idea how to comprehend. “Fascism is a dream politics. It’s a mythology. You can’t fact-check myth. You can’t arch an eyebrow and make it go away.”

https://prospect.org/politics/2024-01-17-metaphors-journalists-live-by-part-i/

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 January 2024 21:32 (three months ago) link


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