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Froese is one of my favourite bad guitarists, I can't excuse it yet still love it

manson family whatsapp group (Matt #2), Monday, 8 January 2024 23:00 (three months ago) link

I'm with Tom on this one. It isn't EF's lack of technique that bugs me so much as his lack of style, which is what separates him in my mind from people like Neil Young. But I also think Gottsching wanks entirely too much, so maybe I just have a weird aversion to German electric guitarists who also happen to be pioneers of ambient music

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 9 January 2024 00:08 (three months ago) link

Yes, it's not that he can't play, it's that he rarely plays anything interesting or certainly not interesting enough.

Little Billy Love (Tom D.), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 00:16 (three months ago) link

Froese's guitar is not a fount of melody, but I think of him less like, say, David Gilmour and more like the German Ron Asheton, where it's more important to fill a certain amount sonic space with "guitar sound" rather than choose your notes wisely.
On the other hand, I wouldn't say the records of this era are really full of guitar (except side 3 of Encore).

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 9 January 2024 02:49 (three months ago) link

Except Ron Asheton's playing is a good thing in the Stooges. He is definitely trying for Dave Gilmour but falling well short.

Little Billy Love (Tom D.), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 09:52 (three months ago) link

Totally disagree about Gottsching by the way, he was an amazing guitarist.

Little Billy Love (Tom D.), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 09:54 (three months ago) link

I agree, but he's occasionally excessive, ie side 2 of E2-E4

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 9 January 2024 13:10 (three months ago) link

in 1984 at the age of 16 i saw t'dream on their 'le parc' tour at st georges hall in bradford.
the band were like a bunch of mad scientists behind their racks of machines while surrounded by screens.
then at the climax of the sonic chaos,
edgar stepped away from the machines and let rip re the guitar while the screens all went into overdrive re fire.
basically while the machines and edgar went into overdrive it looked like they were all enveloped in fire.
it was thrilling to the extreme.
so yeah, he may not have have been good guitarist,
but damn,
he was a great showman.

mark e, Friday, 12 January 2024 22:32 (three months ago) link

Gottsching is incredible on the Walter Wegmuller album

frogbs, Friday, 12 January 2024 22:34 (three months ago) link


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