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this rules, i'm excited for you and wish i could be there, sounds like a great time.

also you are def going to be very good at it.

Deflatormouse, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 01:07 (three months ago) link

ILX aint gonna be the only one getting all yessed out tomorrow night

frogbs, Thursday, 4 January 2024 04:35 (three months ago) link

alrighty, that was really fun. I decided to make it hard on myself and use two turntables, plus my phone for requests or things I wanted to play that I didn't have on vinyl. it was more work than I thought! I didn't realize how little you wind up paying attention to your own set because there's so much to do. in theory this should not be true in a genre known for 20 minute songs but I kept bouncing between snippets of this and that.

but I think people dug it, a lot of stuff got a good reaction, can post a setlist if you want HOWEVER I actually don't really remember it all! I stuck to the 'plan' for about an hour and a half and then just bounced all over the place

imo the best part was that I was running projections off a Chromebook my son primarily uses - I made a video playlist and projected it onto a giant screen, but the autoplay has a mind of it's own sometimes, and it wound up playing Peppa Pig for a while, apparently the whole bar was wondering how long before I noticed (it was about 15 minutes lmao)

frogbs, Friday, 5 January 2024 15:21 (three months ago) link

nice! glad it went well. def post whatever you remember of the setlist

I mean, with the right song Peppa Pig visuals might not be that far off lol

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 5 January 2024 15:24 (three months ago) link

okay, it was something like this

Walter Wegmuller - Der Narr
Wobbler - This Past Presence
Yes - The Remembering - I cut the mellotron bit from Wobbler into that "relayer" part, so it was only like 3-4 minutes of the side
The Nice - Brandenburger
Camel - La Princesse Perdue
Triumvirat - The History of the Mystery Part One - started halfway through this, when it starts sounding like a gameshow theme
Van der Graaf Generator - Theme One
Todd Rundgren - first four tracks from A Wizard a True Star, I cut the last note of "You Need Your Head" into "The Ikon" by Utopia, and then once that hit a big note cut it back into the "International Feel" reprise at the end of Side 1
Robert Wyatt - Little Red Riding Hood Hit the Road
Animal Collective - What Would I Want? Sky
Utopia Strong - Konta Chorus
Jon Anderson - Moon Ra
Susumu Hirasawa - Nice Nice Very Nice
Pink Floyd - One of These Days
Walter Wegmuller - Der Wagen
Hawkwind - Are You Losing Your Mind? - beforehand someone said "You gotta play some Hawkwind" - I asked what he wanted to hear and he pointed me to this album called Alien4 from 1996??
Midday Veil - Babel - people were starting to dance (!!) so I had to put on something like this
Ruins - Progressive Rock Medley
IQ - Awake and Nervous
Neil Cicierega - Fredhammer - getting a little goofy at this point...I was like "ok folks let's play a guessing game, here is a mashup between two musicians, you have to guess which one has an extensive background in progressive rock". This is a mashup between "Sledgehammer" and "Nookie" - obviously everyone knows it's Peter Gabriel, I thought it would be funny if the second one was Fred Durst
Rush - Limelight
Kansas - Journey from Mariabronn (this was a request)
Yes - The Gates of Delirium - played nearly the whole thing which was nice because I kinda needed to get a drink and the bar was crowded :)
Ween - Among His Tribe (this took the place of "Soon Oh Soon" from Gates)
Motorpsycho - Mona Lisa/Azrael
Knifeworld - High/Aflame
Gong - Flying Teapot
Midday Veil - Empire Is No More
King Crimson - Sleepless
Marillion - first two from Clutching at Straws - someone actually brought the LP in and asked that I play it, which I thought was rad as hell
Motorpsycho - Mutiny!
Cardiacs - The Everso Closely Guarded Line

hmmm...what else...I am pretty sure I played "One More Night" by Can at one point...probably a few other tracks I forgot...also I threw on "Shimendoka" by Haruomi Hosono right at the end

frogbs, Friday, 5 January 2024 15:58 (three months ago) link

A++++++++++++++ set list \m/

one question -- were IQ's vocals ever a barrier to entry? i've liked a lot of what i've heard by them, but the singing has put me off so far

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 5 January 2024 16:16 (three months ago) link

damn, nice set! Nice balance of classic, new stuff and under the radar stuff. I want a bar like this near me, will you take your show on the road? haha

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 5 January 2024 16:16 (three months ago) link

oh forgot one - "By-Tor and the Snowdog" by Rush, which I segued into "Hyperventile" by Frost*...sheesh maybe I forgot a number of things

I never minded IQ's vocals, guess you kinda have to accept that every neo-prog singer sounds like Peter Gabriel. I mean in prog just having a dude who can sing at all is a plus honestly

fwiw I bet there are a lot of hip/weirdo bars open to doing this sort of thing, the hard bit is finding them. I got lucky in that the right guy was working the shop when I'd bought a Utopia record, he was like "oh if you like this kind of music you should come out for this"

I did really want to play "Communion with the Sun" but I did that one last time when I was being shown the ropes :)

frogbs, Friday, 5 January 2024 16:25 (three months ago) link

Awesome!

brimstead, Friday, 5 January 2024 16:50 (three months ago) link

Super setlist, even though I’m only familiar with a fraction of it. And dying at President Keyes’ graphic.

Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Friday, 5 January 2024 17:14 (three months ago) link

luckily someone did get a pic of it

https://i.imgur.com/gOcXyD6.jpg

frogbs, Friday, 5 January 2024 17:20 (three months ago) link

also gotta give props to whoever on this board recommended Midday Veil a while ago (I think it was rush?), was a big nervous playing stuff nobody there was gonna recognize but both those tracks went down really well

frogbs, Friday, 5 January 2024 17:23 (three months ago) link

Ha that was one band I was just researching since I'd never heard of them before, curious now.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 5 January 2024 17:31 (three months ago) link

Haha, Peppa Prog

sawdust lagoon, Friday, 5 January 2024 19:38 (three months ago) link

Also love the Knifeworld > Gong sequence. Kavus, yup.

sawdust lagoon, Friday, 5 January 2024 19:43 (three months ago) link

Utopia Strong was in there too :)

frogbs, Friday, 5 January 2024 19:57 (three months ago) link

also gotta give props to whoever on this board recommended Midday Veil a while ago (I think it was rush?), was a big nervous playing stuff nobody there was gonna recognize but both those tracks went down really well

― frogbs

idk, i do love midday veil tho, can't remember where i heard about th em

Kate (rushomancy), Saturday, 6 January 2024 02:55 (three months ago) link

yea I genuinely don't know where if not this board, either way it was great

just remembered I played "Island" by Echolyn and "Heaps of Sheeps" by Robert Wyatt at some point too, I genuinely don't know how I got this all in

frogbs, Saturday, 6 January 2024 05:09 (three months ago) link

my playlist of this -- which omits nice nice very nice and fredhammer as they don't seem to be on tidal -- just hit five hours

mark s, Saturday, 6 January 2024 11:43 (three months ago) link

slightly surprised to be concluding that the funkiest track on frogbs's list is gong's "flying teapot" (courtesy francis moze and laurie allan i guess)

also laurie allan played with chris macgregor (tho i guess the wyatt-bluenotes nexus is not a total secret)

mark s, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 16:25 (three months ago) link

hey, if funky prog is out there, I sure don't know about it. though I would argue that section of "The Remembering" is kinda funky :)

frogbs, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 17:28 (three months ago) link

there's a ton of funky prog. i would argue that funky drummers are an essential part of prog. even the big 3 have tons of funky tracks (bill bruford and phil collins are both funky ass drummers!). the french and italian stuff gets down and dirty. magma is hella funky. check out 3:20 in the area song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqhsqYJozG4

kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 17:38 (three months ago) link

This is funky! Kind of. Goes into a bit of quiet storm around the 4 mins mark too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bc04Xd3wOhQ

where did the times go (Matt #2), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 17:39 (three months ago) link

cat food is funky as hell

kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 17:41 (three months ago) link

of course, i was just surprised at gong of all people pulling ahead in this particular race

(of course moze was magma's bass player)

mark s, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 17:42 (three months ago) link

of course

mark s, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 17:42 (three months ago) link

as much as I liked the first Area LP, I never checked out the second, indeed that sounds great

I've always thought Yes had their own brand of funk - Siberian Khatru, Heart of the Sunrise, Sound Chaser and all that...obviously Crimson has stuff like One More Red Nightmare and Easy Money. Magma's Attahk is definitely funky but also a bit out there. that's on my list if I get another opportunity though.

but tracks like "Flying Teapot" which just ride a groove uninterrupted for a few minutes - idk how many tunes like that there are out there. I thought both the Midday Veil tracks were pretty funky though, in fact Bernie Worrell is on one of them

frogbs, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 17:45 (three months ago) link

maybe we should start a thread :)

(not a poll tho, they suck)

mark s, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 17:58 (three months ago) link

as much as I liked the first Area LP, I never checked out the second

Crac is the third Area album, their second is called Caution Radiation Area and is probably more fusion/avant garde than funky; although their fifth, 1978 Gli Dei Se Ne Vanno, Gli Arrabbiati Restano! contains a song called "Ici on dance!" So maybe that's what they were all about, when not fomenting revolution.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 18:07 (three months ago) link

I think there's a lot of this type of material in something like Andy Votel's Vertigo mix:

https://www.discogs.com/release/498388-Andy-Votel-Vertigo-Mixed

(it's a big grab bag and not only prog, but I think it's def prog adjacent)

fpsa, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 18:09 (three months ago) link

there's a ton of funky prog.

there is but sometimes it gets hard to distinguish between funky prog, proggy funk, "prog-funk" and fusion.

Deflatormouse, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 18:14 (three months ago) link

even Gong occasionally have funky inclinations

Deflatormouse, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 18:16 (three months ago) link

I'm not at all suprised about Gong getting funky, if it had been Van der Graaf Generator...

Little Billy Love (Tom D.), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 18:21 (three months ago) link

still life almost gets there... there's some bass playing on the maida vale live album that gets out da fonk.

kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 18:33 (three months ago) link

They don't even have a bass player on "Still Life"!

Little Billy Love (Tom D.), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 18:34 (three months ago) link

that hammond bass is sick tho

kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 18:40 (three months ago) link

3 mins in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dM9uujpGkc

kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 18:41 (three months ago) link

time for ILM top help one another distinguish between funky prog, proggy funk, "prog-funk", fusion and etc

ignore comedy typo, i've been proofreading all day and my eyes are going

mark s, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 18:46 (three months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gcl_Te7P9o

MaresNest, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 19:00 (three months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7AJUT7JdJA

Not sure why these two classical/prog things popped into my mind, that Variations record is out(bloody)rageous in parts

MaresNest, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 19:03 (three months ago) link

whoa i didnt know about that ALW album!

kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 19:24 (three months ago) link

really it's a colosseum ii LP, feat. ALW arrangements of paganini

once upon a time it was a big deal in the UK, bcz the very first eoisode of long-running cultural TV show the south bank show devoted to its recording, and the main pagaini riff became the TV show's themetune for like 95 years

mark s, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 19:46 (three months ago) link

Very much a charity shop staple.

Little Billy Love (Tom D.), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 19:51 (three months ago) link

i will never sell my copy

mark s, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 19:52 (three months ago) link

even for pennies

mark s, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 19:52 (three months ago) link

No-one would buy it anyway.

Little Billy Love (Tom D.), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 19:53 (three months ago) link

kurt might!

but he's not getting it

mark s, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 19:54 (three months ago) link

gimme!

kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 20:29 (three months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApXA1YjOM6M

MaresNest, Saturday, 20 January 2024 20:25 (three months ago) link


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