Watching the (edited) 2023 Induction Ceremony on ABC…. Bernie Taupin’s digs at Wenner were widely reported, but I hadn’t read about how his comments (celebrating diversity at the ceremony) also featured a passionate defense of “pop”:
“Diversity in genres and styles is exciting and relevant. When it exactly was when the term ‘pop’ became a dirty word, I don’t know. (…) Every artist in this musical institution and every artist inducted on this stage tonight is pop(…).”
― Godzilla Minus Zero/No Limit (morrisp), Tuesday, 2 January 2024 06:55 (three months ago) link
Missy was great and her speech was very affecting
― Godzilla Minus Zero/No Limit (morrisp), Tuesday, 2 January 2024 07:19 (three months ago) link
Watain
Yeah no that’s never happening.
― Siegbran, Tuesday, 2 January 2024 07:22 (three months ago) link
Looking at that list above, I guess Coheed & Cambria, Lil Wayne and Phoenix look the most likely to get in?
― Siegbran, Tuesday, 2 January 2024 13:34 (three months ago) link
Fully aware that this says more about me than them, but I have literally never heard of Coheed & Cambria.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 2 January 2024 15:00 (three months ago) link
None of these will get in for a while but here are the ones I think they'll eventually go for:
50 CentJohn MayerJennifer LopezLil Wayne
― Chris L, Tuesday, 2 January 2024 15:04 (three months ago) link
Coheed & Cambria are an emo/prog band with a huge cult following, basically Tool/NIN for millennials. Not my thing but I’m sure they’ll get voted in at some point.
― Siegbran, Tuesday, 2 January 2024 17:36 (three months ago) link
Trapt is going in
― Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 2 January 2024 17:44 (three months ago) link
(xpost) I looked them up...They've had a few Top 10 albums, but in all honesty, they seem to have a somewhat narrow, genre-specific fan base. I know I don't keep up, but there's never been an inductee I've never even heard of. If you're right, I have to believe "at some point" means decades from now. I suspect there are a lot of more famous possibilities to get to first.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 2 January 2024 17:50 (three months ago) link
One example among dozens, probably hundreds (listening to a sale CD I bought last week): TLC. Says here they've been eligible since 2018.
https://futurerocklegends.com/Artist/TLC/
(Their "HOF Indicators" are interesting--most are good, but the only critical barometer looks like the Rolling Stone list, so they'd need a lot more there, I'd say. And they definitely need to add something commercial/sales/chart-based.)
― clemenza, Tuesday, 2 January 2024 18:20 (three months ago) link
The last 50s-associated artists to be inducted were several backing bands in 2012. The last 60s-associated artists to be inducted were the Zombies in 2019. (Proper induction, not being snuck in a back door.) Can we assume that the Hall is done with adding acts that are primarily associated with those decades?
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 2 January 2024 18:48 (three months ago) link
Probably, tho there are at least these perpetual snubees to consider (and how many years they've been eligible):
Johnny Burnette and the Rock N Roll Trio 42Connie Francis 40Jan & Dean 38Dick Dale 36Peter, Paul & Mary 36Toots & the Maytals 36Barry White 35Cher 33The Guess Who 33The Sonics 33Captain Beefheart 32Jim Croce 32Love 32The Monkees 32Scott Walker 32Tommy James & the Shondells 32Harry Nilsson 31Can 30Jethro Tull 30Silver Apples 30The Carpenters 29King Crimson 29Kool & the Gang 29Nick Drake 29Three Dog Night 29Diana Ross 28Emerson, Lake & Palmer 28Sparks 27Big Star 26Blue Öyster Cult 26Neu! 26The Pointer Sisters 25
― stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Tuesday, 2 January 2024 18:53 (three months ago) link
I'd imagine The Monkees will get inducted before Jennifer Lopez and Lil Wayne ... but still probably after John Mayer
― stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Tuesday, 2 January 2024 18:54 (three months ago) link
The Monkees are still the devil to these Rock Hall guys.
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 2 January 2024 18:58 (three months ago) link
Also Silver Apples won't get any acknowledgement in a million years.
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 2 January 2024 18:59 (three months ago) link
Top of the list: the Shangri-Las.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 2 January 2024 19:18 (three months ago) link
^Yeah, they should be included in that "perpetual snubees" accounting...
― Godzilla Minus Zero/No Limit (morrisp), Tuesday, 2 January 2024 19:25 (three months ago) link
surprised Nick Drake never got in
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 2 January 2024 19:30 (three months ago) link
He keeps emailing the hall asking why not
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 2 January 2024 19:33 (three months ago) link
Wonder if Wenner was the main anti-Monkees zealot?
― Chris L, Tuesday, 2 January 2024 19:35 (three months ago) link
no ones' lol'ed at the idea of Ariel Pink in the RRHOF yet? Will be more likely to get a Presidential Medal of Freedom
― Expansion to Mackerel (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 2 January 2024 20:12 (three months ago) link
Amazed that Dick Dale's not in.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Tuesday, 2 January 2024 20:18 (three months ago) link
Dionne Motherfuckin' Warwick
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 2 January 2024 20:22 (three months ago) link
Huh, I had not previously known her middle name.
― CthulhuLululemon (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 2 January 2024 21:23 (three months ago) link
A psychic made her change it to "Motherfuckin'e"
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 2 January 2024 21:58 (three months ago) link
walk on bydon'tfuck
― Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 2 January 2024 21:59 (three months ago) link
I recorded this from ABC a few days ago and watching parts of it now. Miguel, Adam Levine and Carrie Underwood are singing George Michael's songs. They're not bad at all but makes you realize that George Michael is one of a kind.
― Bee OK, Friday, 5 January 2024 04:15 (three months ago) link
I said the same thing! (My wife thought Miguel did a pretty good job…)
― Wooly Bully (2005 Remaster) (morrisp), Friday, 5 January 2024 04:16 (three months ago) link
Tom Morello speech from Rage Against the Machine was, by far, the best thing of this years show. Inspiring:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DSf53xiYOg
― Bee OK, Friday, 5 January 2024 05:52 (three months ago) link