Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame Nominees 2023

Mates of State, wow. imagine making a list of bands eligible for the RNRHOF and including Mates of State.

that said, i've always though the hall needed more Mraz

That would be pretty awesome if Ted Leo & the Pharmacists get in. I don't think it'll ever happen - not even a nomination - but Leo just strikes me as one of the most decent guys in rock, and he's still doing it after all those years. The story about his wife's illness and everything he did to keep things afloat is moving. I still end up seeing him a lot because of his free shows and opening sets, and over the past eight years he's the only act I know who's managed to give thoughtful, intelligent and earnest pleas to his audience to politically engage without resorting to insults or working himself up into a rage-filled rant.

Feel like "The Caretaker" and "Caretaker" are gonna split the Caretaker vote.

Nobody seems like a slam dunk until Beyonce in 2028. (Kanye is also eligible that year, but I wonder now how that's going to go.)

does the hall have an old-timers' committee like baseball? They Might Be Giants should be in already!

I was trying to find the Harold Baines here, the absolutely average artist who might have the longevity and industry goodwill to make it, the Foo Fighters rule I suppose, but no one fits the bill.

(oh, I see Beyonce and Kanye are actually eligible in 2027 bc they released singles in 2002)

(xpost) That argument is basically made for Ted Leo just above. I don't think you can do that for this HOF. If you took all the reprobates (and much worse) out and started replacing them with good people, it'd be filled with, I don't know, Bruce Hornsby and the guy who sang "Good Morning Starshine." It wouldn't feel right.

Watching the (edited) 2023 Induction Ceremony on ABC…. Bernie Taupin’s digs at Wenner were widely reported, but I hadn’t read about how his comments (celebrating diversity at the ceremony) also featured a passionate defense of “pop”:

“Diversity in genres and styles is exciting and relevant. When it exactly was when the term ‘pop’ became a dirty word, I don’t know. (…) Every artist in this musical institution and every artist inducted on this stage tonight is pop(…).”

Missy was great and her speech was very affecting

Watain

Yeah no that’s never happening.

Looking at that list above, I guess Coheed & Cambria, Lil Wayne and Phoenix look the most likely to get in?

Fully aware that this says more about me than them, but I have literally never heard of Coheed & Cambria.

None of these will get in for a while but here are the ones I think they'll eventually go for:

50 Cent
John Mayer
Jennifer Lopez
Lil Wayne

Coheed & Cambria are an emo/prog band with a huge cult following, basically Tool/NIN for millennials. Not my thing but I’m sure they’ll get voted in at some point.

Trapt is going in

(xpost) I looked them up...They've had a few Top 10 albums, but in all honesty, they seem to have a somewhat narrow, genre-specific fan base. I know I don't keep up, but there's never been an inductee I've never even heard of. If you're right, I have to believe "at some point" means decades from now. I suspect there are a lot of more famous possibilities to get to first.

One example among dozens, probably hundreds (listening to a sale CD I bought last week): TLC. Says here they've been eligible since 2018.

https://futurerocklegends.com/Artist/TLC/

(Their "HOF Indicators" are interesting--most are good, but the only critical barometer looks like the Rolling Stone list, so they'd need a lot more there, I'd say. And they definitely need to add something commercial/sales/chart-based.)

The last 50s-associated artists to be inducted were several backing bands in 2012. The last 60s-associated artists to be inducted were the Zombies in 2019. (Proper induction, not being snuck in a back door.)
Can we assume that the Hall is done with adding acts that are primarily associated with those decades?

Probably, tho there are at least these perpetual snubees to consider (and how many years they've been eligible):

Johnny Burnette and the Rock N Roll Trio	42
Connie Francis	40
Jan & Dean	38
Dick Dale	36
Peter, Paul & Mary	36
Toots & the Maytals	36
Barry White	35
Cher	33
The Guess Who	33
The Sonics	33
Captain Beefheart	32
Jim Croce	32
Love	32
The Monkees	32
Scott Walker	32
Tommy James & the Shondells	32
Harry Nilsson	31
Can	30
Jethro Tull	30
Silver Apples	30
The Carpenters	29
King Crimson	29
Kool & the Gang	29
Nick Drake	29
Three Dog Night	29
Diana Ross	28
Emerson, Lake & Palmer	28
Sparks	27
Big Star	26
Blue Öyster Cult	26
Neu!	26
The Pointer Sisters	25

I'd imagine The Monkees will get inducted before Jennifer Lopez and Lil Wayne ... but still probably after John Mayer

The Monkees are still the devil to these Rock Hall guys.

Also Silver Apples won't get any acknowledgement in a million years.

Top of the list: the Shangri-Las.

^Yeah, they should be included in that "perpetual snubees" accounting...

surprised Nick Drake never got in

He keeps emailing the hall asking why not

Wonder if Wenner was the main anti-Monkees zealot?

no ones' lol'ed at the idea of Ariel Pink in the RRHOF yet? Will be more likely to get a Presidential Medal of Freedom

Amazed that Dick Dale's not in.

Dionne Motherfuckin' Warwick

Huh, I had not previously known her middle name.

A psychic made her change it to "Motherfuckin'e"

walk on by
don't
fuck

I recorded this from ABC a few days ago and watching parts of it now. Miguel, Adam Levine and Carrie Underwood are singing George Michael's songs. They're not bad at all but makes you realize that George Michael is one of a kind.

I said the same thing! (My wife thought Miguel did a pretty good job…)

Tom Morello speech from Rage Against the Machine was, by far, the best thing of this years show. Inspiring:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DSf53xiYOg