Why is John Fahey So Boring?

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Malmsteen wipes Snooks.

Then again Tom Lehrer wipes Malmsteen.

Game over, man.

Dom iNut (donut), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 07:35 (eighteen years ago) link

I've never heard Malmsteen play "High Society". Do you have an mp3 of him playing that?

valdemar (nubbin), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 07:39 (eighteen years ago) link

The second Christmas album is easily the best thing I've ever heard by him, side one anyway and yes the duets are the best parts.

Burr (Burr), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 13:55 (eighteen years ago) link

I've never heard Malmsteen play "High Society". Do you have an mp3 of him playing that?

I recorded him playing that in my 2-inch analog tape studio in Hawaii... we did lots of coke. It was rock.

(done spray-bottling Fahey fans' picnic yet? You've gotten the towels all moist now. For shame. I'm hardly even a huge Fahey fan here, so I found this all kinda funny.)

Dom iNut (donut), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 14:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Not as bad when I recorded Tom Lehrer performing his satirical piano revue which was about all the great folk legends.. that guy demanded crack enemas. We're talkin' Stevie Nicks shit now. That was fuckin' nasty.

Dom iNut (donut), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 15:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Seriously. Lay of Fahey. He's quirky, he's obv. talented, and he's willing to do something original. If you don't like him, don't listen to him.

Big Loud Mountain Ape (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 15:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Irony is the badge of the defeated!

A friend of mine's mother told me the same thing while giving me a ride home from 9th grade.

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 15:28 (eighteen years ago) link

jhoshea how are you?!?!? I didn't know you were on ILM!>!>! I remember that day I said that to you when I was driving you home!!>>> When did you get out of jail?

valdemar (nubbin), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 16:21 (eighteen years ago) link

As for whether I'm done with bitching about John Fahey, I don't think so. I am a lonely old woman who has a lot to get off her chest. John Fahey's music really does make me very upset. I've tried therapy. I've tried medication. I've tried exercise and modifications to my diet. But still, this deep seated aversion to his music just won't let me be!

And so I say to Big Loud Mountain Ape: If you don't like readin' my whingein', don't be readin' it!

valdemar (nubbin), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 16:24 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm well valdemar, thank you for asking. I have been out of jail for five years now!!! (hard to believe it's been that long!!!) I'm a pilates instructor at the local Y now. Can you believe that? Old ironically fat jhoshea a homo pilates instructor. Well prison will teach you some things, I'll tell you that much. One thing I learned is that writing bad checks at the truck stop is not an occupation with a FUTURE. Another is how to be a homo.

Do you still listen to npr in your volvo? To this day, the pairing of the words volvo and npr makes me pleasantly drowsy.

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 17:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Solo guitar music is mood music. I've been playing guitar for 20 years, and I love the guitar and how it's applied across a myriad of music forms, but I still can only listen to solo guitar music (and, for that matter, guitar and voice) in small doses.

That said, Fahey has a big messy catalog. Some of it is inspiring, and some of it is turgid. There's a lot of context that has to be in mind when you listen to the likes of Fahey and Kottke. They are both pre-New Age, but when listening to either of them with 2006 ears, there is a great deal of bleed/crossover. There's a lot of Fahey that sounds like the stuff your elderly Aunt would listen to on a Winter Sunday afternoon. And that taints our appreciation of their form.

I like the quote Dan Bunnybrain pulled out. That he saw himself as brilliant, but not a genius, lacking in composition skills, an emotive player who played in the moment. It all rings true. And obviously the man resonates with a number of players these days: Jim O'Rourke, Harris Newman, Jack Rose, OCS (plenty of others).

There's something enchanting about tuning your guitar to an open tuning and exploring disonance amongst the drone notes. That "Bartok meets the Delta Blues" thing is fun to explore.

Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 17:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Glad to hear you're a lithe pole smoker, jhoshea. I was once in prison, I'd rather not say why, and I got one of those crazy neck tattoos when I joined Las Cholitas Surenas Gueras y Suizas. As for NPR, I can't stand that shit any more! Fuck that ho Nina Totenburg! Still driving the Volvo though, and it's still got the stains from where you got sick from huffing kerosene. You boys!

valdemar (nubbin), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 19:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh my goodness, I've killed the thread. Mercy me... Onward and upward I guess.

valdemar (nubbin), Thursday, 12 January 2006 04:06 (eighteen years ago) link

two years pass...

this guy's got a cool 5-disc "Roots of Fahey" comp up for download here: http://grapewrath.blogspot.com/2008/04/roots-of-john-fahey.html
BUT IT IS PROBABLY TOTALLY BORING.

tylerw, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 19:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Wasn't there supposed to be a Revenant Fahey boxed set? Did that ever happen?

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 19:56 (fifteen years ago) link

I love that link for this alone:

http://bp0.blogger.com/_Gun5Xkdl7TY/SBfs1Kbj-iI/AAAAAAAAApo/TmL0GQAqWQ4/s1600-h/fahey_house1.jpg

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 20:09 (fifteen years ago) link

wtf

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 20:10 (fifteen years ago) link

thx for the link tylerw

yuon (jergins), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 20:11 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah i think there was supposed to be a revenant fahey box ... but is revenant still going? seems like they haven't put anything out in a long while -- the american primitive II thing in 04 or 05 was the last thing right? Or was it the Ayler box ... anyway, yeah, i'd heard about that fahey box but haven't ever heard anything concrete about it.

tylerw, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 20:28 (fifteen years ago) link

that roots of fahey stuff looks cool. i'm a big fan of the old time mountain guitar comp on county. for similar comps, check out "mr. charlie's blues" on Yazoo and "Mountain Blues" also on County.

ian, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 20:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Dust To Digital has a Fahey box scheduled for next year:

John Fahey: The Fonotone Years (1958-1962)

John Fahey
Release Date: 2009
Description: A 3 CD set to commemorate the 50th anniversary of John Fahey's first recordings for Joe Bussard's Fonotone Records. Remastered from the original reels of tape, this will mark the first time this music is available on CD.
Genre: Blues guitar.

http://dust-digital.com/forthcoming.htm

krakow, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 23:16 (fifteen years ago) link

ooh that sounds cool ... the Fonotone things have never been on CD, right?

tylerw, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 23:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Never.
Four 12" acetates compiling (most of?) the Fonotone recordings were just sold on ebay. I think the cheapest one went for $300-something, the others were all $500+

ian, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 23:32 (fifteen years ago) link

oh i guess it says that right up there, duh: "the first time this music is available on CD." anyhoo, cool!

tylerw, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 23:35 (fifteen years ago) link

anyone hear the blind thomas stuff on the fonotone box? where he plays with a paint brush? never could bring myself to summon the money for it.

the vrootz style set above looks superb, full marks to all concerned. i'm going to have a listen right now.

ogmor, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 23:55 (fifteen years ago) link

not I. the fonotone box is oop, right? been looking around for it lately. no dice.

original bgm, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 22:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Darn, I didn't realise that. Sure enough Dust-to-Digital don't have it for sale themselves.

krakow, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 22:19 (fifteen years ago) link

wonder where nubbin is today? that was some B+ trolling there.

I better jump on that Fonotone box, thankx for the tip.

sleeve, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 22:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Do you know somewhere that has it in stock?

krakow, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 22:56 (fifteen years ago) link

I listened to the "Deathchants, Breakdowns, and Military Waltzes vol .2" LP the other day while eating lunch. The one with "America" and "Episcopal Hymn" on it. He's still and will always be great, I think.

Neotropical pygmy squirrel, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 23:05 (fifteen years ago) link

I have a bunch of random mp3s and the Red Cross, one of my favourite albums of all time, where should I start, Fahey is a little daunting even though I love everything I've ever heard, which is a lot, but there's so much meta in the titles of things that its easy to get lost.

Take You Down (I know, right?), Thursday, 11 December 2008 01:13 (fifteen years ago) link

The Rhino comp, Return of the Repressed is a good starting point ... Also that live record, the Great Santa Barbara Oil Slick is killer. Don't know if there's really a "bad" Fahey album up until the 80s when it starts getting a little sketchy ...

tylerw, Thursday, 11 December 2008 02:05 (fifteen years ago) link

fare forward voyagers is a real standout for me. if the idea of fahey sprawling out over three long songs sounds interesting, definitely check it out.

original bgm, Thursday, 11 December 2008 02:17 (fifteen years ago) link

'America' the tune from volume 2 is sublime Fahey groove.

Recommendations for depend on how keen you are/how much you'd like to hear.

Either: The first seven Takoma records (Blind Joe Death-Voice Of The Turtle) are all first rate cosmic sentimentalism, with the only caution being that VOTT is pure Faheylogic, eclectic and sort of ridiculous, the most characterful album as the John Fahey legend built up to a sort of Dionysian ecstacy before he took the torpor/Christmas/dixieland left turns and calmed down. The Yellow Princess&Requia are great also, Fahey sobre and in the studio but at the top of his game. America and Fare Forward Voyagers are almost the greatest stuff he recorded but I think Fahey collapsed under his own weight a little, so they're really epic and ambitious but he doesn't manage to build up the momentum I'm anticipating. It's like a set of enormous intros to the greatest Fahey ever. First two Christmas albums fulfill all yr hopes of what a Fahey Christmas album could be, pretty sure I don't want to hear the later ones.

The dixieland trio (Of Rivers&Religion, After The Ball, Old Fashioned Love) are uneven but try one at least. A lot of the stuff from the 70s/80s is great too, patchier, and getting increasingly less great, but new things like the Bola Sete influence and the awesome "Sandy On Earth" from God,Time&Causality. If you like Ananaias from Red Cross you should check out its younger, heavier ancestor, Melody McBad on Visits Washington DC. I'm fairly even in my semi keen approval of the 90s stuff I've heard. The solo electric guitar stuff is often really slow, heavy-going and sometimes impossibly sad, but I really like Hitomi, disembodied ghost Fahey, and Red Cross feels a bit odd but mostly good. Depending on yr appetite for Fahey's slow drawl monologues you might dig the Cul de Sac record and his trio stuff. The former is probably my favourite late Fahey record, the sound collages are refreshingly beautiful.

Or: Days Have Gone By/Yellow Princess/Santa Barbara Oil Slick

ogmor, Thursday, 11 December 2008 04:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Thanks for the post ogmor.

On the Fonotone Records box set front, I just ordered it from Cargo: http://www.cargorecords.co.uk/release/2022
Credit crunch be damned (with the special offer it's a well justified purchase) (guilt, guilt, guilt).
We'll have to see if they actually come up with the goods.

krakow, Thursday, 11 December 2008 11:06 (fifteen years ago) link

the Fonotone box is out of stock but will be repressed for early next year.
Keep an eye out on the website for it. I will refund you now.

Ah well.

krakow, Thursday, 11 December 2008 12:47 (fifteen years ago) link

eight months pass...

Dust-to-Digital just tweeted about listening to the Fahey-Fonotone CD'Rs, and said this a few days ago, also on twitter...

Fahey-Fonotone set: split release b/t DTD and Revenant. 5 CDs & book w/ 100+ unpublished photos of John.

So it's increased from 3 to 5 discs. With both Dust-to-Digital and Revenant involved, this is going to be some serious fetish object. I can't wait.

krakow, Tuesday, 8 September 2009 21:35 (fourteen years ago) link

urghhh. when is it coming out? it is going to be expen$ive isn't it ... also nice to hear that Revenant isn't totally dead ....

tylerw, Tuesday, 8 September 2009 21:36 (fourteen years ago) link

speaking of fahey http://grown-so-ugly.blogspot.com/2006/12/contemporary-guitar-spring-67-this.html

tylerw, Tuesday, 8 September 2009 21:37 (fourteen years ago) link

No mention of when, but I've embraced new media and gave them an @dusttodigital tweet to ask.

Aye, I expect it will be pretty pricey.

krakow, Tuesday, 8 September 2009 21:39 (fourteen years ago) link

ah well, at least we know it'll be well done -- Revenant and DtD know how to do box sets!

tylerw, Tuesday, 8 September 2009 21:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Amen to that.

krakow, Tuesday, 8 September 2009 22:06 (fourteen years ago) link

just to plug a local mpls dude that is brilliant, fahey fans should check out paul metzger (of mpls cult art punx TVBC in the early 80s)

http://www.myspace.com/paulmetzger

rap telekenisis or some equally retarded nerd shit (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 8 September 2009 22:11 (fourteen years ago) link

that contemporary guitar comp is grrrreeeat! it shouldn't be that there tbh.. there were several different cover variations. mine was a later pressing than the one pictured there.

ian, Tuesday, 8 September 2009 23:23 (fourteen years ago) link

speaking of fahey http://grown-so-ugly.blogspot.com/2006/12/contemporary-guitar-spring-67-this.html

― tylerw, Tuesday, September 8, 2009 5:37 PM (1 hour ago)

noise board lurker

am0n, Tuesday, 8 September 2009 23:31 (fourteen years ago) link

lol i did see that on the noize board -- all credit where credit is due, noise dudes ...

tylerw, Wednesday, 9 September 2009 01:27 (fourteen years ago) link

Missed this from Dust-to-Digital's last newsletter, which says the Fahey box should be out by the end of the year:

We are very excited to announce that John Fahey's Fonotone Years is in production, and we are doing everything we possibly can to have the title out by year's end. As we wrote in a previous newsletter, the set will be a co-release between Dust-to-Digital and Revenant Records. As for the music the set will feature, we are including every recording John made for Joe Bussard's Fonotone record label. The result will be a five-CD box set of music that was only available in the 1950s and '60s in limited pressings on 78rpm acetate records. We will be mastering the audio from the original, pristine reel-to-reel tapes.

Also in the works is a separate two-CD set called Roots of Fahey, which will showcase the songs and musicians that inspired and influenced John throughout his recording career. Each track comes from the 78rpm record collection of John's lifelong friend, Joe Bussard.

krakow, Thursday, 10 September 2009 11:16 (fourteen years ago) link

whoa.

original bgm, Thursday, 10 September 2009 14:19 (fourteen years ago) link

wannnnnt

tylerw, Thursday, 10 September 2009 14:56 (fourteen years ago) link


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