basic channel/maurizio/chain reaction, s&d

poppycock.

pipecock: no love for vainqueur? not even this?

That record isn't actually on Chain Reaction.

thanks for pointing that out

cos i said 'no love for chain reaction, not even this' up there, i can see

Rene Lowe's best work was on labels other than CR. Pipecock was not criticising Vainquer, but CR as a whole.

resolved fucking up doesn't make pipecock right, though

"pipecock: no love for vainqueur? not even this?

-- resolved"

nah, even that i thought was wildly overrated. some of my least favorite BC/R&S related records are the ones with tikiman on them (the early Burial mixes, the 2 middle Main Streets [though the last mainstreet is DEEEEEEEP, possible my favorite R&S jam!], etc). and vaniquer is just not my kind of thing. its funny, of the CR stuff, i feel like they were related to BC in the most shallow possible manner, none of it can really match the emotional content of the R&S records. obviously the BC guys were into it since they released it, but it was like they were putting out the less interesting music related to what they came up with.....

i think the early burial mixes are some of the best. never tell you the time and what a mistry are fantastic.

why is king

"i think the early burial mixes are some of the best. never tell you the time and what a mistry are fantastic.

-- elan"

i just dont feel them as much as say "best friend" (imo so obviously the best one), "music hit you", or "king/queen in my empire"......

yeah, best friend might be the best. and music hit you! that was the first thing where i sat down with a drum machine and figured out the beat. it's pretty simple, but whatevs.

this is like "what's better: quadrant dub or quadrant q1.1?" WHY CHOOSE. except you still found the wrong choice by slagging the tikiman showcase ;)

ps q1.1

pretty obvious that the chain reaction stuff was their experimental off-shoot, for headphones not dancefloors, but even so i could see vainqueur's 'solanus' getting thrown into a techno set without a blink. that elevations cd is one of the best things on c.r. i think

hell, substance and fluxion too

lots of the 12s work really well on the dancefloor - "emerge", "erosion 1", "no stunts", the ridis 12", "resilient 1.1" etc etc. i guess the cd releases allowed producers to really stretch out and get dubbier and more ambient. was listening to the various artists album the other night, i could dance to that shit, sleep to it, dance and sleep at the same time, whatever - so nice! someone should do a cr cd poll or something.

i like chain reaction more than basic channel, but they are both great obviously.

i really love how loud and brash the open 909 hats are on alot of this stuff, like it's the one absolute, physical thing holding down all this inner space noise

substance does some great stuff like that with the clave sounds instead of the hats, same idea though. It's def. the real anchor for almost everything, refreshingly backwards

It's an especially nice contrast with most of what's coming out these days, what with the fad for really short, clipped, ultra-restrained hi-hat sounds, hardly any hi-end hiss to modern techno AT ALL.

I always thought the bassline on 'what a mistry' sounded like it was being played on a tuba. It's kind of brassy sounding isn't it.

so I was playing 'round one - I'm your brother' in my room today and my roomate came in and took a listen and pointed out that the lyrics of that song are from an Isley Brother's tune: Caravan of Love

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6gmrM6C8O0

wow!

holy shit! i wonder about new day.

wild. its like they "sampled" the chorus. i wonder if the verses are from anything? gotta say that as much as i love the isleys, the main street version is far superior ;)

;_;

organizing CDs today and i noticed that my BC compilation CD is missing. the metal tin is there, but there's nothing in it!

six months ago when my monolake CD cracked into pieces i freaked out and took all of the discs out. then i put them in empty jewel cases (these pile up like crazy because i keep all of my CDs in plastic sleeves). later i got some plastic CD sleeves and put them in those. i think maybe i didn't take out the BC CD and threw it out w/ the jewel cases when i did my monthly "throw out all the jewel cases" sweep.

either that or it's misfiled somewhere among either 1000s of plastic sleeves or 100s of digipaks ...

haha omg porter ricks "spoiled" (force inc.) neverending subaquatic tunnel of disco house heaven

ysi

also: is "symbiotics" (porter ricks vs techno animal) any good?

i'm inclined to think: no, not really

moi non plus. re:ysi, I wish I had casually digitized my vinly over time... saying goodbye to the bulk of it in one sitting. loss will make me better !

interestingly some artists stay w/out question (alphabetically so far: air liquide, juan atkins, daniel bell)

I are serious cat. bye, bartz & bicknell! see you in another life, beltram & baxter!

dude you can't get rid of blake baxter records. wtf.

oh I'm the first one to be surprised believe me. or I had the wrong 10 bb records.

Now on Beatport, if anyone didn't know...

ps i found my basic channel cd

:-]

also: is "symbiotics" (porter ricks vs techno animal) any good?

i'm inclined to think: no, not really

it's, uh, not as bad as you might think? i thought it was alright at a time when i was way more into PR than techno animal.

saw bb dj in glasgow about five years ago, he was the debut guest dj at a friend's (short-lived) club night - his set stripped the paint off the walls, people were going b-a-n-a-n-a-s

bb?

blake baxter. think I last saw him at the moog club in bcn about 5 years ago too. way too loud!

I bought symbiotics a couple months ago, granted, I think I would have obviously preferred have found biokinetics at the store that day, but nevertheless it's pretty good, although a bit unmemorable and a bit dry. I've taken to liking the techno animal stuff a bit more (and am a much bigger PR fan as well), but it is pretty good.

I haven't listened to "Symbiotics" in ages, but I was very underwhelmed by it at the time. It's got a couple of good PR tracks, but take a pass on the TA stuff.

"Spoiled" rules and the entire "Porter Ricks" album is criminally underrated. I find Koener's longer ambient album a bit tough to take in one sitting, but this album strikes a great balance between stuff with beats and without.

'the köner experiment' is underrated

i like the porter ricks remix of low. i don't remember anything else about that remix album, though.

did anyone try the beatport mp3s/wavs? does the remastering make much difference? i see they're now available more affordably here:

http://www.digital-tunes.net/labels/basic_channel/

A lot of this stuff is on bleep now, too.

It's on Amazon, too, even.

http://basicchannel.com/item/BCD-2

One of the quintessential electronic music compilations of all time. Basic Channel BCD-2 features full length versions of six of the label’s landmark club tracks released on vinyl between 1993 and 1995. From today’s perspective, in this open sound much of the later Rhythm & Sound imprint (as released on Rhythm & Sound: s/t) with its echo-heavy atmospheric density was already layed out here.

* Enforcement
* Phylyps Trak
* Inversion
* Octagon
* Octaedre
* Phylyps Trak II/II

BCD-2 (CD) 2008

no metal box no credibility.

paper spindle at least?

i wonder if this one will be mastered really quiet.