V For Vendetta: The Movie

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A timely revival - I just spent much of yesterday evening in the pub with V For Vendetta artist David Lloyd, as it happens (and a guy who coloured about half of it, but he's one of my best friends and that was the third day in four that I'd seen him, whereas I hadn't see David in years). Gives me an easy way of doing some quality small-time namedropping without having to contrive a reason, hurrah!

Actually, a unique namedropping encounter, in that David was saying 'hello Martin' to me while I was still not sure if he was who I thought. I've not met a famous person before where that's happened.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 11:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Is he getting any royalities?

Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 11:27 (eighteen years ago) link

isn't he getting it all? that interview Stewart Lee did with Moore, Moore kept saying that after his first major disillusionment with each further film that got optioned he was going "give the money to the artist, i'm not doing this" - and by the time it got to the 5th or 6th film he was saying it through gritted teeth.

Britain's Jauntiest Shepherd (Alan), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 11:32 (eighteen years ago) link

I didn't ask him, what with not remembering that there was a movie on the way.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 11:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Hahaha, he sounds cool if he doesn't even remember they're filming his work.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 12:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, I heard reports that Moore signed over all royalty rights to David Lloyd. He also severed his working relationship w/ DC Comics because they used his name in a press release w/out his permission. (Not in a "created by..." context, but in a "Alan approves!" context.)

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 12:55 (eighteen years ago) link

the font on the bottom tagline is Futura, appropriately enough.

kingfish (Kingfish), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 13:53 (eighteen years ago) link

No, I mean I had forgotten there was a film, and no one else brought it up, perhaps oddly. We did talk about films some, and with his attitude to modern action-adventure and special fx films, I suspect VfV will hardly be his kind of thing.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 19:57 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Saw the trailer the other day. Had a white-hot feeling of rage rush up my spine and into my scalp. Not because it looks that bad, just on Moore's behalf.

I haven't heard any more advance press about it. Are they still going with the Nazi angle? Is he still not going to blow up any buildings?

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 29 July 2005 20:02 (eighteen years ago) link

i thought the nazi thing was just press misunderstanding

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 29 July 2005 20:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, Im getting that vibe, too. One IMDB entry says that it's about the Germans winning WWII, but another, the one that appears on the main page now, simply says "fascist government." It seems almost like a correction, but the original abstract hasn't been removed, only moved to a secondary page.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 29 July 2005 20:30 (eighteen years ago) link

The trailer doesn't look bad. Bullet time seems to be a sticking point with most, but I didn't mind it. Way too much red however. I don't recall any fully saturated colors in the GN. The movie should be filmed in hangover-vision.

Sparkle Motion's Rising Force, Friday, 29 July 2005 21:16 (eighteen years ago) link

The visual style of the comic book was part of its theme, yes. Fincher's black-and-blue palettes would have suited better.

And no, it doesn't look bad. Shame about casting Natalie Portman, but it has Stephen Rea, too, and it's always good to see him. And Hugo Weaving will be perfect if they can resist an unmasking scene.

The repeated use of the word "uncompromising" in the ad campaign is perhaps a good sign. Did they actually stick very close to the source material? They want us to believe so, at any rate.

Surely there's a good (if un-PC, heady, and uncomfortable) movie in the material, no doubt. And the original GN has always been my least favorite of Moore's works -- it's him finding footing, and it's messy.

I have hope.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 29 July 2005 21:52 (eighteen years ago) link

I should say, my least favorite of Moore's major Graphic Novels. I remember spotty Swamp Thing issues. I'm not counting those.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 29 July 2005 21:55 (eighteen years ago) link

say, what was the reasoning for miracle-/marvelman going fucking bugged out for a run, anyway?

kingfish (Kingfish), Friday, 29 July 2005 21:59 (eighteen years ago) link

not sure I fully understand the question, but to my memory Marvelman was originally running in Warrior magazine (along w/V for Vendetta), but the magazine folded before either series was completed. Marvelman had trouble getting re-started because of Marvel Comics/copyright infringement balonium.

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 29 July 2005 22:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Also, remember this: The Wachowski Bros are still alleged by Grant Morrison and his fans to have "adapted" The Invisibles to make The Matrix. And The Matrix kicks ass. Maybe adapting comics is in their blood?

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 29 July 2005 22:03 (eighteen years ago) link

I am a huge fan of the V series. For a sneak preview of the movie, call (713)553-1256

V for Vendetta fan, Friday, 29 July 2005 22:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Houston, eh? Out of my area.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 29 July 2005 22:05 (eighteen years ago) link

I still think that repeating "Remember remember the fifth of November" in the trailer is going to sound like a release date to Americans.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 29 July 2005 22:13 (eighteen years ago) link

well they're releasing it on the 5th of November...

kit brash (kit brash), Saturday, 30 July 2005 00:25 (eighteen years ago) link

nope the FOURTH!

s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 30 July 2005 03:56 (eighteen years ago) link

The Trailer looks very close to the book; most of the scenes in the trailer are incidents in the book, and if the Nazi victory in WW2 is a way to explain the presence of a fascist govt. in UK then it'll be OK. I think it us, as it's much easier to move on from than Moore's original scenario.

Taken all together, I am now very excited by this.

Dave B (daveb), Sunday, 31 July 2005 22:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Alan gave some details about bits of the V For Vendetta shooting script he'd seen. "It was imbecilic; it had plot holes you couldn't have got away with in Whizzer And Chips in the nineteen sixties. Plot holes no one had noticed."

What Moore found most laughable however were the details. "They don't know what British people have for breakfast, they couldn't be bothered. 'Eggy in a basket' apparently. Now the US have 'eggs in a basket,' whish is fried bread with a fried egg in a hole in the middle. I guess they thought we must eat that as well, and thought 'eggy in a basket' was a quaint and Olde Worlde version. And they decided that the British postal service is called Fedco. They'll have thought something like, 'well, what's a British version of FedEx... how about FedCo? A friend of mine had to point out to them that the Fed, in FedEx comes from 'Federal Express.' America is a federal republic, Britain is not."

David Lloyd was reported to have commented on the script at the recent Bristol comics convention. Superherohype posted a fan report talking to Lloyd, saying "he thinks it was very good for an Action Thriller, but is very much different from the Graphic Novel. He said that the character of Evey is less of a victim in this film and that he had met with The Wachoski Brothers."

LOCKER ROOM TOWEL FIGHT: THE BLINDING OF LARRY DRISCOLL (Adrian Langston), Sunday, 31 July 2005 23:08 (eighteen years ago) link

What's that from? Link plz.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 31 July 2005 23:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Nevermind. Got it.

http://www.alanmoorefansite.com/news/may2005.html

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 31 July 2005 23:42 (eighteen years ago) link

I like how the trailer to this gives the impression of a fantastic movie drowning in a gigantic bucket of "Uh, WHAT???" sauce.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 31 July 2005 23:53 (eighteen years ago) link

People anticipating this film need to witness the most elegantly crafted soliloquy in cinematic history:

V: "This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is it vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, vanished, as the once vital voice of the verisimilitude now venerates what they once vilified. However, this valorous visitation of a by-gone vexation, stands vivified, and has vowed to vangquish these venal and virulent vermin vanguarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition.

"The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous. Verily, this vichyssoise of verbiage veers most verbose vis-à-vis an introduction, and so it is my very good honor to meet you and you may call me V."

Evey: "Are you like, a crazy-person?"

Leeeeeee (Leee), Monday, 1 August 2005 02:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Much vim and vigor here.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 1 August 2005 02:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Verily.

Leeeeeee (Leee), Monday, 1 August 2005 03:45 (eighteen years ago) link

evey needed to be BILLIE PIPER. SO OBVIOUS.

Is it just me, or is "an uncompromising vision of the future, from the creators of the Matrix trilogy" one of the most unappealing taglines ever?

-- Tuomas (tuomas.alh...), June 29th, 2005.

it's just you.

i hope they set this in the actual 1997-8. it needs updating because the surveillance state looks very archaic (and it's run by about 6 people wtf). i can't believe they'll follow the 'logic' of v's anarchy, but then, the premise that self-government will miraculously follow a period of chaos may be a little bit shakey to begin with.

N_RQ, Monday, 1 August 2005 07:37 (eighteen years ago) link

SPOILERS

But the comic isn't saying that "self-government will miraculously follow", is it? People are free of the fascist government, but what happens next is (decidedly) left open.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 1 August 2005 11:11 (eighteen years ago) link

'the ending of this film will be written by you' -- end title of 'run of the arrow' (1957)

well, there is ambiguity there, but the logic of the thing is that self-government will miraculously prevail. perhaps i read it opstimistically, but i think that's how it's meant.

N_RQ, Monday, 1 August 2005 11:39 (eighteen years ago) link

the news boradcasts on page one of this came true last week, it was fucked.

N_RQ, Monday, 1 August 2005 13:03 (eighteen years ago) link

uh, is that dialogue upthread really in the movie? where did that come from?

cuz that's horrible...

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 1 August 2005 15:56 (eighteen years ago) link

two months pass...
trailer out in HD at www.apple.com/trailers

Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Monday, 17 October 2005 00:58 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
apparently this has been delayed till march?

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Monday, 31 October 2005 22:20 (eighteen years ago) link

remember remember the... 14th of march? doesn't have the same ring to it!

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 31 October 2005 22:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Beware the Ides & shit

kingfish orange creamsicle (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 31 October 2005 23:17 (eighteen years ago) link

This is usually reliable sign that a movie is going to blow goats.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 31 October 2005 23:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Perhaps they are delaying it because it's too soon after the July bombings in London? (Key plot point involves trains from Kings Cross) That may be me thinking too humanely of the film industry though.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, I thought this was the official reason for the delay.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 09:38 (eighteen years ago) link

no, it isn't. and anyway it's victoria in the book.

N_RQ, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 09:59 (eighteen years ago) link

That was the reason I heard too, and it seemed to make some sense.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:17 (eighteen years ago) link

It does make some sense. But the only other example that comes to mind of delaying a movie because of coincidental real world resemblance to the plot (actually just the title, which was ultimately changed in this case) was "Looters" which later became "Tresspass"

And it DID blow goats.

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 23:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Trespass had some good stuff in it! And frankly its a better, more accurate title.

miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 23:39 (eighteen years ago) link

three months pass...
More trailer on the site now...

Dave B (daveb), Friday, 10 February 2006 13:18 (eighteen years ago) link

I guess there's a still small fanboy living in me because that trailer left me all excited, wanting to see the film. Then again, the anarchist in me will probably be disappointed, because I that's the aspect of the story they'll most likely fuck up. All they have to do is make V a real person rather than a symbol.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 10 February 2006 14:34 (eighteen years ago) link

the vanity fair article on this last month made it sound excellent

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 10 February 2006 14:36 (eighteen years ago) link

That trailer looked GOOD.

Will Natalie Portman return to her adolescent brilliance? I mean, same basic setup as Leon the Professional. I don't have audio @ work so can't tell if she's being totally boring again or what else is going on.

TOMBOT, Friday, 10 February 2006 14:53 (eighteen years ago) link


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